The BigLaw hate buffet Forum

[JusticeHarlan]

I had a cunning deduction about whose alt that might be based on a previous "V15 is not a thing" shtick.

Then I read the poster's name and realized I'm not that cunning.

[Tropical Jackal]

At my V15 nobody is anywhere near this butthurt. We all love the work we are doing. Sure we work hard, but we play hard. And we are doing prestigious work. It's not hard to work a good 50 hours a week when you see your work in the journal.

Tbf you have no idea how butthurt they are.

tbf this person sounds like a college freshman frat pledge impersonating an attorney

The only society I'm a part of is Order of the Coif. Ever hear of it?

[IAFG]

At my V15 nobody is anywhere near this butthurt. We all love the work we are doing. Sure we work hard, but we play hard. And we are doing prestigious work. It's not hard to work a good 50 hours a week when you see your work in the journal.

Tbf you have no idea how butthurt they are.

tbf this person sounds like a college freshman frat pledge impersonating an attorney

The only society I'm a part of is Order of the Coif. Ever hear of it?

Lol ok good troll

[anyriotgirl]

At my V15 nobody is anywhere near this butthurt. We all love the work we are doing. Sure we work hard, but we play hard. And we are doing prestigious work. It's not hard to work a good 50 hours a week when you see your work in the journal.

Tbf you have no idea how butthurt they are.

tbf this person sounds like a college freshman frat pledge impersonating an attorney

The only society I'm a part of is Order of the Coif. Ever hear of it?

theory confirmed

[Nebby]

theory confirmed

[MKC]

Lol ok good troll

Biglaw did seem like it was needing a PR rep.

[jbagelboy]

I'm sure Paul Weiss is all it's cracked up to be. 'Tis why the Yalies are flocking in droves. Otherwise they'd be at SCOTUS, right?

[IAFG]

Lol ok good troll

Biglaw did seem like it was needing a PR rep.

I am sure there is nothing we can learn from the fact that the only person lukewarm on biglaw was an alt troll

[thesealocust]

At some point do we have to accept biglaw is just a symptom of the disease that is people attracted to the legal profession?

All the warning signs were there - journals, law professors, obsession with ranking law schools...

[IAFG]

At some point do we have to accept biglaw is just a symptom of the disease that is people attracted to the legal profession?

All the warning signs were there - journals, law professors, obsession with ranking law schools...

It's already been said but yes the problem with law is it's full of former law students/0Ls

[El Pollito]

At some point do we have to accept biglaw is just a symptom of the disease that is people attracted to the legal profession?

All the warning signs were there - journals, law professors, obsession with ranking law schools...

It's already been said but yes the problem with law is it's full of former law students/0Ls

I guess we probably deserve each other.

[thesealocust]

I love shouting "WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES [paralegal]. WE CHOSE THIS." when I run into one of the abused paralegals I work with at stupid hours.

Then we look at each other sadly and get back to work

: |

[Theopliske8711]

I love shouting "WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES [paralegal]. WE CHOSE THIS." when I run into one of the abused paralegals I work with at stupid hours.

Then we look at each other sadly and get back to work

: |

Do you have any boinkable paras?

[IAFG]

I love shouting "WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES [paralegal]. WE CHOSE THIS." when I run into one of the abused paralegals I work with at stupid hours.

Then we look at each other sadly and get back to work

: |

Do you have any boinkable paras?

DON'T FUCK THE PARALEGALS

We lost two of our best to such shenans.

[84651846190]

I love shouting "WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES [paralegal]. WE CHOSE THIS." when I run into one of the abused paralegals I work with at stupid hours.

Then we look at each other sadly and get back to work

: |

Do you have any boinkable paras?

DON'T FUCK THE PARALEGALS

We lost two of our best to such shenans.

Two of your best paralegals or attorneys?

[MKC]

Two of your best paralegals or attorneys?

Or one of each?

[Nebby]

I love shouting "WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES [paralegal]. WE CHOSE THIS." when I run into one of the abused paralegals I work with at stupid hours.

Then we look at each other sadly and get back to work

: |

Do you have any boinkable paras?

DON'T FUCK THE PARALEGALS

We lost two of our best to such shenans.

Were the paras both women? If so, then that seems like typical boy's club bullshit.

[IAFG]

Two of your best paralegals or attorneys?

Or one of each?

two great female paras. if you date a colleague one of you has to quit.

[anyriotgirl]

this was such an issue at my firm a few years back that they intentionally hired a fat and ugly female paralegal for a particular team

[KD35]

Two of your best paralegals or attorneys?

Or one of each?

two great female paras. if you date a colleague one of you has to quit.

So was it a coincidence in both situations the paralegal had to leave or are entry-level attorneys actually more valued than someone else at the firm?

[IAFG]

Two of your best paralegals or attorneys?

Or one of each?

two great female paras. if you date a colleague one of you has to quit.

So was it a coincidence in both situations the paralegal had to leave or are entry-level attorneys actually more valued than someone else at the firm?

an atty salary is more valuable to a couple than a para's, and also it's easier for the para to get a new gig in town

[jingosaur]

The is probably the most informative thread on BigLaw in this subforum.

[blurbz]

This will be totally stream of consciousness so bear with me or skip it. I'm tired because I'm in the middle (end? I don't know.) of a hellish week (two weeks? I've lost track), but I'll agree with most of what's said here. The time thing sucks: I didn't know that I was going to bill ~100 hours this week until I was already deep into it. I haven't seen my wife much, I missed a family event, and I haven't slept much. The timing can suck. The lack of control really does.

I generally like the work, though. I do M&A and I like seeing how different deals are structured, what's important to different clients/targets, overcoming various obstacles and etc. The high level stuff. When you can see it, this type of work can be interesting. You can't see it very often, though: Mostly it's bracket searches and non-fillable SEC filing forms, computer crashes and secretaries who accidentally shuffle documents, dating and re-dating docs because the parties decided not to sign. That stuff sucks, but I don't talk about that when I make small talk with my friends when I stumble into a bar after a crazy day.

When I have a moment away from the job, when my phone is dormant (it's never off, but sometimes there are stretches where no one emails or calls) and I have a minute to think about it; I'm pretty happy. The hours aren't bad all the time, I just bought a new car, moved to a nicer place, eat at good restaurants, get to take my friends out on the firm dime for "business development." I worry about money because we all worry about money, but I know that I don't need to worry about paying bills or buying shit I want or my wife wants or whether we can afford to go on a trip (if I can get around to scheduling one). The money is good.

It's not a perfect life style--and the lack of control over your time really isn't fun -- but it pays well, it can be interesting, and there are various perks here that I wouldn't have at other jobs. Am I going to make a career out of biglaw? I'm not deep enough in to know. Right now the people I work for generally respect my time (if I had a vacation planned or a funeral or whatever, I wouldn't get any grief for briefing a new associate and leaving the office--but maybe that also says something about how much we junior associates are valued...) and I generally like the work. There are clearly drawbacks and negatives but, so far, at least for me, they're worth it.

End stream of consciousness. Back to work.

[iliketurtles123]

A search of TLS shows that you can still bill a low amount of hours and get away with it for a couple years.

Why not work hard for a year or two (depending on your loans) to pay down most of your loans, then bill 2200 or whatever and just make your life easier until you're either shown the door 2-4 years later (which means you already made it 4-6 years) or you find a new job?

[El Pollito]

A search of TLS shows that you can still bill a low amount of hours and get away with it for a couple years.

Why not work hard for a year or two (depending on your loans) to pay down most of your loans, then bill 2200 or whatever and just make your life easier until you're either shown the door 2-4 years later (which means you already made it 4-6 years) or you find a new job?

You think you can casually bill 2200 hours?