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Post by TLSModBot » Sat May 06, 2017 10:14 am

ChristineBaskets wrote:Anyone care to share a story about a time when they thought they bombed an exam, their answers were incoherent and all over the place, AND they skipped entire sub-parts of questions -- yet they still ended up with a B+ or higher?
Studied my ass off for Torts. Answered every question in more detail and with more analysis than I did any other exam. Worst 1L grade

Did not pay attention in Property. Like, at all ever. Felt I did not know anything and had half of one question I took vague stabs at just to get something on paper. Got an A.

This shit has a high degree of subjectivity that for all intents and purposes borders on random ass.

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Post by EzraFitz » Sat May 06, 2017 10:27 am

ChristineBaskets wrote:Anyone care to share a story about a time when they thought they bombed an exam, their answers were incoherent and all over the place, AND they skipped entire sub-parts of questions -- yet they still ended up with a B+ or higher?
Had a legitimate panic attack during an exam and only got through about 60% of it. Was sure I failed, ready to call it quits. B+

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by buckiguy_sucks » Sat May 06, 2017 10:36 am

Capitol_Idea wrote: borders on random ass.
*is overly generous to professors b/c poster is self-outed teachers pet as evidenced by TWO RA positions*


law school grading is random and meaningless see e.g. my corporations grade and also basically every class i've gotten a good grade in actually

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by EzraFitz » Sat May 06, 2017 11:15 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote: borders on random ass.
*is overly generous to professors b/c poster is self-outed teachers pet as evidenced by TWO RA positions*


law school grading is random and meaningless see e.g. my corporations grade and also basically every class i've gotten a good grade in actually
I agree with this except at the very very top and very very bottoms (I e. Top and bottom 1-2%). Those I know in those ranges (based on assumptions and grades gotten) seemed suited for it haha.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by TLSModBot » Sat May 06, 2017 11:23 am

I meant to type randomness and phone fittingly changed to random ass. Keeping it

Yeah Fitz is generally right here though I'd say bottom 10% def earn what they got, the extreme ends of B and A have clear differences, but the jump from B+ to A- or from A- to A is probably entirely arbitrary

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by TLSModBot » Sat May 06, 2017 11:25 am

And lol if you don't think inveterate bootlicking is a necessary skill in biglaw. Get practice now sucking up to arbitrary gatekeepers kids!

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thelincolnlawyer wrote:Any advice for scheduling a week of vacation in August? EIW is August 7-11 and classes start the 28th. Would it be better to schedule a week off right after EIW around the 12-19 and leave the week before classes for callbacks or leave the week directly after EIW free for callbacks and schedule the vacation the week before classes?
Take all the time off you need! I'm sure firms will hold a spot open for you while everyone else schedules callbacks!

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by cheaptilts » Sun May 07, 2017 5:20 pm

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thelincolnlawyer wrote:Any advice for scheduling a week of vacation in August? EIW is August 7-11 and classes start the 28th. Would it be better to schedule a week off right after EIW around the 12-19 and leave the week before classes for callbacks or leave the week directly after EIW free for callbacks and schedule the vacation the week before classes?
Take all the time off you need! I'm sure firms will hold a spot open for you while everyone else schedules callbacks!
Not a GULC'r, but it's probably unwise to schedule a late-August vacation absent both great grades and a realistic evaluation of your interview abilities. Firms, for the most part, make offers on a rolling basis, and you'd disadvantage yourself by scheduling later.

Some firms take more time to get back to you than others, too. So you could be in a situation where your post-screening invitation for a callback comes like 7-10 days after EIW. You'd want to schedule it ASAP.

You'll be a 2L at this point. Just skip the first week of school.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by TheSpanishMain » Sun May 07, 2017 5:24 pm

Yup. All that happens the first day is going over the syllabus anyway. If you miss the first week, professors will just assume you're a late registration. Skip the first week, leave mid-August open for callbacks.

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Post by buckiguy_sucks » Sun May 07, 2017 7:27 pm

FWIW I would also not schedule for the first week of school. Interviewing can extend well into the semester. Some of the earliest days to schedule a callback I was offered was halfway through September.

Hate to rain on the vacation parade but i would wait

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by BmoreOrLess » Sun May 07, 2017 8:40 pm

cheaptilts wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Any advice for scheduling a week of vacation in August? EIW is August 7-11 and classes start the 28th. Would it be better to schedule a week off right after EIW around the 12-19 and leave the week before classes for callbacks or leave the week directly after EIW free for callbacks and schedule the vacation the week before classes?
Take all the time off you need! I'm sure firms will hold a spot open for you while everyone else schedules callbacks!
Not a GULC'r, but it's probably unwise to schedule a late-August vacation absent both great grades and a realistic evaluation of your interview abilities. Firms, for the most part, make offers on a rolling basis, and you'd disadvantage yourself by scheduling later.

Some firms take more time to get back to you than others, too. So you could be in a situation where your post-screening invitation for a callback comes like 7-10 days after EIW. You'd want to schedule it ASAP.

You'll be a 2L at this point. Just skip the first week of school.
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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by Hand » Mon May 08, 2017 11:36 am

So, who else is excited about hanging out with Tiffany Trump next year?

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by buckiguy_sucks » Mon May 08, 2017 11:38 am

Tiffany if you're at TLSer blink twice and also you should've known better than to come to GULC

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Post by Hand » Mon May 08, 2017 11:39 am

Hand wrote:So, who else is excited about hanging out with Tiffany Trump next year?
I assume she is not on TLS otherwise she would have been smart enough to go to a T13, it's not like Vlad's money can't pay for sticker somewhere

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by Hand » Mon May 08, 2017 11:58 am

Capitol_Idea wrote:Hahahahahhaha
maybe re-enroll to get a useless LLM just to share the experience dude

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Hand wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:Hahahahahhaha
maybe re-enroll to get a useless LLM just to share the experience dude
Yes my entire gripe with GULC was really that it just didn't have enough Trump in it

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Post by Hand » Mon May 08, 2017 12:09 pm

Capitol_Idea wrote:
Hand wrote:
Capitol_Idea wrote:Hahahahahhaha
maybe re-enroll to get a useless LLM just to share the experience dude
Yes my entire gripe with GULC was really that it just didn't have enough Trump in it
haha exactly, the one thing that was lacking, everything else here is ~perfect~

I really hope they'll offer this course again in the 2018-19 year btw, should be of interest to the ol' tiffster
The Trump Presidency: Legal, Political and Moral Problems
Professors Martin Lederman and Louis Seidman

J.D. Course 1463 (cross-listed) | 3 credit hours

Donald Trump’s victory in the 2016 presidential election has raised a host of constitutional, policy, and moral concerns. For some Americans, the Trump presidency promises long-delayed and much needed reforms vital to our future. For others, it threatens the very survival of the republic.

This deep and acrimonious division, in turn, raises serious questions about whether Americans still share enough common ground to function as a thriving democracy. It also raises questions about constitutional law. Can adherence to the constitution or to constitutional values bridge this disagreement? Are our constitutional structures sufficiently robust to ward off authoritarianism? If not, are there other social or political structures that will serve this purpose? Is authoritarianism a serious threat under current circumstances?

In addition to these broad and existential questions about the country’s future, the Trump presidency poses a host of narrower, legal and related policy questions about matters such as the appropriate form of immigration policy, the putative need for electoral reform, the problem of providing adequate health care and controlling costs, the role of courts in curbing presidential power, and the virtues or vices of free trade.

The Trump phenomenon did not emerge from nowhere. It is part of a world-wide erosion of the liberal consensus that has dominated politics since the end of World War II. That consensus is threatened by the emergence of strong nationalist and populist forces. We will explore the possible causes of this change and the implications it holds.

For many of us, the Trump presidency also poses personal challenges. Is civil disobedience an appropriate response? Should a lawyer accept a civil service job while Donald Trump is president? Should lawyers who already have these positions resign? Is it ever appropriate for a government lawyer to take steps to oppose the policy aims of political appointees?

The aim of this course is to examine these and related questions in a calm and analytic fashion. The course is open to students of all political persuasions. It would be foolish to suppose that we can talk about these issues without having our political views influence the discussion, but we expect all participants to be respectful of, and open to, the positions of fellow participants.

Learning Goals for this course:

1. To master a variety of complex legal questions raised by the Trump presidency.

2. To learn about and develop informed views about important policy choices raised by the Trump presidency.

3. To examine the efficacy and desirability of various constitutional structures as they intersect with the Trump presidency and the system by which Trump was elected.

4. To think in a serious way about political disagreement, how it should be resolved, and how a liberal democracy can deal justly and effectively with deep cultural, social, and political divisions.

5. To model among ourselves how people who disagree can talk candidly, respectfully, and forcefully about their disagreements.


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Post by TLSModBot » Mon May 08, 2017 12:17 pm

Of course Seidman would teach that. Lederman there to rein him in obviously.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by buckiguy_sucks » Mon May 08, 2017 12:59 pm

should boost the job stats since she's guaranteed a job at Jones Day right?

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

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buckiguy_sucks wrote:should boost the job stats since she's guaranteed a job at Jones Day right?
#back2t14

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by grades?? » Mon May 08, 2017 1:03 pm

Hahahahhahahahahha Tiffany trump isn't even going to a t13. Hahahahahhahaha

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grades?? wrote:Hahahahhahahahahha Tiffany trump isn't even going to a t13. Hahahahahhahaha
Jokes on you with a Trump as an alum, think of the donations! The Georgetrump Unitrumpity Law Trumper will be a top 10 school in no time. It'll be the greatest law school you've ever seen, great like you'd never believe.

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