Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges Forum

[Gus Fring]

wow lutz was fired. This is ridiculous I took a class with him and he was great.
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Also, I am including some additional email addresses if you want to reach me (not sure what will happen with the Northwestern email address).
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Karl Lutz

I don't know if there is anything wrong with sharing this, but you should delete his e-mail addresses

Second this - the man doesn't need his email addresses on this forum.

it won't let me edit the post

[magikarp]

it won't let me edit the post

oh, right - it's probably worth sending a message to a mod and asking them to do it.

[sadpandayolo]

Just came here from a long time hiatus from TLS. (1) woah this website changed. (2) wtf is happening O_o when I was there, everybody loved Lutz

[RedPurpleBlue]

Just came here from a long time hiatus from TLS. (1) woah this website changed. (2) wtf is happening O_o when I was there, everybody loved Lutz

The website was bought by a legal recruiting company. The vast majority of the old guard users left and created their own competing website. When this exodus was occurring, they tried to spread the word and a huge wave of bans came through, admin disabled editing, and post approval became required.

As for Lutz, yeah. It's pretty odd, especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

[guynourmin]

especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

lol

[JHWigmore]

Dean Rodriguez has done an awful thing at the cost of all future Northwestern/Pritzker Law students for his personal grudges against Lutz. It is very unmanly for Rodriguez to do so as he is stepping down, in a desperate manner to eliminate his nemesis-- Lutz.

Earlier in May, a 1L section lost its torts grade because a professor (Candice Player) plagiarized her test from a commercial prep course. Rodriguez seems to be fine with that, even if this was the second year that professor has done so to her torts class. This was apparently unfair to students who strategically dedicated time to study torts over other classes.

Lutz has been a responsible and earnest teacher from my interaction with him in and outside of his PE and M&A classes. Rodriguez apparently doesn't even know what Lutz teaches-- explaining to Lutz that there are enough new faculty members to teach "Business Associations," which Lutz hasn't taught for a long time.

Most students find Rodriguez a dean detached from the student body. He acts like a businessman-- selling the school name to Pritzker. He talks like a prophet of legal education with sophism devoid of substance. He praises his wife's MSL program whenever possible. I'm glad he is stepping down.

The law school has failed its students. I encourage applicants/admitted students to think twice before committing to Northwestern/Pritzker Law.

[RedPurpleBlue]

especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

lol

Quality comment.

On a more serious note, senior lecturers are likely the senior most contingent position at the law school, as a lot of law schools tenure-track their assistant profs and I would be surprised if NU didn't. They exist because they are more economically advantageous than traditional TT faculty positions. Senior lecturers teach more courses than any other position in the law school, and enrollment in courses is what keeps tuition $$$ flowing in to subsidize things like academic research.

[guynourmin]

especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

lol

Quality comment.

On a more serious note, senior lecturers are likely the senior most contingent position at the law school, as a lot of law schools tenure-track their assistant profs and I would be surprised if NU didn't. They exist because they are more economically advantageous than traditional TT faculty positions. Senior lecturers teach more courses than any other position in the law school, and enrollment in courses is what keeps tuition $$$ flowing in to subsidize things like academic research.

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

[thatlawlkid]

especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

lol

Quality comment.

On a more serious note, senior lecturers are likely the senior most contingent position at the law school, as a lot of law schools tenure-track their assistant profs and I would be surprised if NU didn't. They exist because they are more economically advantageous than traditional TT faculty positions. Senior lecturers teach more courses than any other position in the law school, and enrollment in courses is what keeps tuition $$$ flowing in to subsidize things like academic research.

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

YEAH, NERD! GETT'EM GUY

[carsondalywashere]

especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

lol

Quality comment.

On a more serious note, senior lecturers are likely the senior most contingent position at the law school, as a lot of law schools tenure-track their assistant profs and I would be surprised if NU didn't. They exist because they are more economically advantageous than traditional TT faculty positions. Senior lecturers teach more courses than any other position in the law school, and enrollment in courses is what keeps tuition $$$ flowing in to subsidize things like academic research.

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

YEAH, NERD! GETT'EM GUY

RBP, I doubt the cost of paying Lutz was the trap motivation for his dismissal

[carsondalywashere]

especially considering senior lecturers probably make less than a regular assistant professor, so they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.

lol

Quality comment.

On a more serious note, senior lecturers are likely the senior most contingent position at the law school, as a lot of law schools tenure-track their assistant profs and I would be surprised if NU didn't. They exist because they are more economically advantageous than traditional TT faculty positions. Senior lecturers teach more courses than any other position in the law school, and enrollment in courses is what keeps tuition $$$ flowing in to subsidize things like academic research.

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

YEAH, NERD! GETT'EM GUY

RBP, I doubt the cost of paying Lutz was the trap motivation for his dismissal

*true motivation

[Kinky John]

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

Well that's just not true because from the publicly available data it seems the most he made in one year as "LEO Intermittent Lecturer" was approximately $209,000. That was certainly not the second highest salary at the law school at the time. Many (if not most) full professors made more than him, in fact.

[Gus Fring]

grades???

[FloridaCoastalorbust]

grades???

[magikarp]

srsly, registrar?

[ckb614]

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

Well that's just not true because from the publicly available data it seems the most he made in one year as "LEO Intermittent Lecturer" was approximately $209,000. That was certainly not the second highest salary at the law school at the time. Many (if not most) full professors made more than him, in fact.

http://www.umsalary.info/deptsearch.php ... 7&Campus=1

[carsondalywashere]

grades???

Florida, aren't you a 3L who graduated?

[FloridaCoastalorbust]

grades???

Florida, aren't you a 3L who graduated?

yep

[Kinky John]

Lutz' salary at Michigan one year, as a lecturer, was the second highest at the law school. Obviously we don't know that he makes that much here or what NU pays faculty, but I'll just go ahead and say it again:

LOL

Well that's just not true because from the publicly available data it seems the most he made in one year as "LEO Intermittent Lecturer" was approximately $209,000. That was certainly not the second highest salary at the law school at the time. Many (if not most) full professors made more than him, in fact.

http://www.umsalary.info/deptsearch.php ... 7&Campus=1

That's the FTE (full time equivalent). That's how the University of Michigan reports salaries. It's not what he actually earned. You have to multiply by his appointment (.27) to get what he actually earned.

Where's the petition for spring semester grades I would like to sign it

[RedPurpleBlue]

LOL

No clue what made you so abrasive, but it's incredibly off-putting. Could have just stated the Michigan data point (which looks like it was endowed unlike his position at NU and therefore attached to more money, so not even a good data point that you felt like you were mic dropping on) and moved on. I had a civil response to your initially intentionally provocative/hostile comment. Pretty lame, guy.

As for grades, maybe tomorrow?

[MT Cicero]

Surprised not to see more of you fine folks elsewhere on these interwebs. Also can’t believe the Lutz thing.

[czpczp]

I heard if we tweet at D-Rod, then he will release grades.

[NLawProud]

I heard if we tweet at D-Rod, then he will release grades.

D-Rod only releases respected professors apparently.

[czpczp]

grades are out

[thatlawlkid]

LOL

No clue what made you so abrasive, but it's incredibly off-putting. Could have just stated the Michigan data point (which looks like it was endowed unlike his position at NU and therefore attached to more money, so not even a good data point that you felt like you were mic dropping on) and moved on. I had a civil response to your initially intentionally provocative/hostile comment. Pretty lame, guy.

As for grades, maybe tomorrow?

He's not lame, you're lame.