TLS Class of 2017 Forum

[SplitMyPants]

Are these a thing at Duke as well?

It's a thing on any campus that has a large presence of southern fraternity culture.

So yes? lol

Lol, I'm thinking so. Don't worry, you can always start slowly with a 6-inch inseam before working your way down to a brospectable 3-inch inseam.

[critical mass]

NYU bound.

Congrats!

thanks nonconsecutive!

[Nonconsecutive]

Are these a thing at Duke as well?

It's a thing on any campus that has a large presence of southern fraternity culture.

So yes? lol

Lol, I'm thinking so. Don't worry, you can always start slowly with a 6-inch inseam before working your way down to a brospectable 3-inch inseam.

Mah gawd.

[lawschool22]

Are these a thing at Duke as well?

It's a thing on any campus that has a large presence of southern fraternity culture.

So yes? lol

Lol, I'm thinking so. Don't worry, you can always start slowly with a 6-inch inseam before working your way down to a brospectable 3-inch inseam.

I think I might just be a trendsetter and stick to the 9" inseam.

[daryldixon]

Everyone in here should consider not going to law school unless they have a scholarship or savings that will make their total debt less than 100k upon graduation. Trust me. I wish someone had said that to me 3 years ago. And I am one of the lucky ones. I won the big law lottery. But seriously fuck debt servitude. It doesn't seem real to you now but you will kick yourself later if you take more than 100k of debt on.

I agree with you generally about keeping debt as low as possible, assuming you can still reach your goals with that choice. But $100k is an arbitray threshold.

You mean "arbitrary" but you are right. Honestly, the number should be much lower than that. 100k is just the very max I would ever think could be plausible.

[DCNTUA]

Everyone in here should consider not going to law school unless they have a scholarship or savings that will make their total debt less than 100k upon graduation. Trust me. I wish someone had said that to me 3 years ago. And I am one of the lucky ones. I won the big law lottery. But seriously fuck debt servitude. It doesn't seem real to you now but you will kick yourself later if you take more than 100k of debt on.

I agree with you generally about keeping debt as low as possible, assuming you can still reach your goals with that choice. But $100k is an arbitray threshold.

You mean "arbitrary" but you are right. Honestly, the number should be much lower than that. 100k is just the very max I would ever think could be plausible.

[daryldixon]

Everyone in here should consider not going to law school unless they have a scholarship or savings that will make their total debt less than 100k upon graduation. Trust me. I wish someone had said that to me 3 years ago. And I am one of the lucky ones. I won the big law lottery. But seriously fuck debt servitude. It doesn't seem real to you now but you will kick yourself later if you take more than 100k of debt on.

I agree with you generally about keeping debt as low as possible, assuming you can still reach your goals with that choice. But $100k is an arbitray threshold.

You mean "arbitrary" but you are right. Honestly, the number should be much lower than that. 100k is just the very max I would ever think could be plausible.

I didn't want to make the post only about grammar but I did want to correct the error. Sorry, law school teaches you to never let typos go.

[lawschool22]

I didn't want to make the post only about grammar but I did want to correct the error. Sorry, law school teaches you to never let typos go.

Yeah, that would have been horrific if you had let it go.

[Ricky-Bobby]

I didn't want to make the post only about grammar but I did want to correct the error. Sorry, law school teaches you to never let typos go.

Man, someone should tell Rad Lulz he sucked at law school, and obviously law practice by extension.

[lawschool22]

Everyone in here should consider not going to law school unless they have a scholarship or savings that will make their total debt less than 100k upon graduation. Trust me. I wish someone had said that to me 3 years ago. And I am one of the lucky ones. I won the big law lottery. But seriously fuck debt servitude. It doesn't seem real to you now but you will kick yourself later if you take more than 100k of debt on.

I agree with you generally about keeping debt as low as possible, assuming you can still reach your goals with that choice. But $100k is an arbitray threshold.

You mean "arbitrary" but you are right. Honestly, the number should be much lower than that. 100k is just the very max I would ever think could be plausible.

That last part is kind of dumb imho.

[georgej]

Not to knock anyone taking out mad debt because I probably would have too if the cycle had turned out differently, but knowing that you'll come out on the other side with not much debt is a really nice feeling.

[lawschool22]

Not to knock anyone taking out mad debt because I probably would have too if the cycle had turned out differently, but knowing that you'll come out on the other side with not much debt is a really nice feeling.

I'm all for minimization of debt, I just think simplistic notions of "never take out more that $X" fail to consider all the various factors unique to a person's own situation.

[7ofNine]

I think it is really hard to pick a number at which point debt doesn't make sense. Everyone's situations are so different that the number will be different for everyone. I think minimizing debt as much as possible always makes sense but that might look very different for different people.

ETA: scooped by ls22

[georgej]

Yeah, exactly.

[EquallyWrong]

Minimizing debt is a good and obvious rule of thumb, as good and obvious as minimizing the number of times you get major surgeries done.... I think it worth pointing out that debt in excess of 100k will not force a tear in the space time continuum and bring the universe whimpering to an end...it means working brutal hours without the ability to buy nice things and, maybe, confronting the futility of human existence in an up close and intimate way.

[Chriz]

Im going to Wiscansin.

[moopness]

Minimizing debt is a good and obvious rule of thumb, as good and obvious as minimizing the number of times you get major surgeries done.... I think it worth pointing out that debt in excess of 100k will not force a tear in the space time continuum and bring the universe whimpering to an end...it means working brutal hours without the ability to buy nice things and, maybe, confronting the futility of human existence in an up close and intimate way.

I really like EquallyWrong's posts. I award you all the internets!

Edit: AND you're going to Columbia too! Fuck yeaaa

[midwest17]

I agree with you generally about keeping debt as low as possible, assuming you can still reach your goals with that choice. But $100k is an arbitray threshold.

You mean "arbitrary" but you are right. Honestly, the number should be much lower than that. 100k is just the very max I would ever think could be plausible.

I didn't want to make the post only about grammar but I did want to correct the error. Sorry, law school teaches you to never let typos go.

You mean "spelling"

[daryldixon]

Minimizing debt is a good and obvious rule of thumb, as good and obvious as minimizing the number of times you get major surgeries done.... I think it worth pointing out that debt in excess of 100k will not force a tear in the space time continuum and bring the universe whimpering to an end...it means working brutal hours without the ability to buy nice things and, maybe, confronting the futility of human existence in an up close and intimate way.

But there is an inherent flaw in not using a number to describe an unacceptable amount of debt. Without a number (or limit) human beings tend to rationalize their economically irrational choices based off of a comparison fallacy. If you get into three law schools that will require you to take out 200k in loans and one that will only require you to take out 150k, the 150k school looks cheap. Indeed most pre-law students rationalize their choice to go to law school and decide that 150k is "cheap". The problem is that 150k of debt is not cheap. Yes it is cheaper than 200k but it is very expensive and will require years of hard work and sacrifice to pay back.

So no I am not just saying "minimize debt". I am saying that you are making the wrong decision if you are going to a law school that will require you to take out more than 100k of loans. Arguing over my limit doesn't change my advice. Everyone should pick a limit and my advice (based on my own experience with law school and debt) is to use 100k as an outside limit.

[chuckbass]

Minimizing debt is a good and obvious rule of thumb, as good and obvious as minimizing the number of times you get major surgeries done.... I think it worth pointing out that debt in excess of 100k will not force a tear in the space time continuum and bring the universe whimpering to an end...it means working brutal hours without the ability to buy nice things and, maybe, confronting the futility of human existence in an up close and intimate way.

But there is an inherent flaw in not using a number to describe an unacceptable amount of debt. Without a number (or limit) human beings tend to rationalize their economically irrational choices based off of a comparison fallacy. If you get into three law schools that will require you to take out 200k in loans and one that will only require you to take out 150k, the 150k school looks cheap. Indeed most pre-law students rationalize their choice to go to law school and decide that 150k is "cheap". The problem is that 150k of debt is not cheap. Yes it is cheaper than 200k but it is very expensive and will require years of hard work and sacrifice to pay back.

So no I am not just saying "minimize debt". I am saying that you are making the wrong decision if you are going to a law school that will require you to take out more than 100k of loans. Arguing over my limit doesn't change my advice. Everyone should pick a limit and my advice (based on my own experience with law school and debt) is to use 100k as an outside limit.

Perfect, you have made your point. If you would like to engage in further discussion regarding arbitrary levels of acceptable debt, please make your own thread.

[barrelofmonkeys]

Oh no, years of hard work!

I was never signing up for that.

[RCO2012]

Oh no, years of hard work!

I was never signing up for that.

I've missed you BoM. This made me chuckle.

[mydasmarie]

Oh no, years of hard work!

I was never signing up for that.

[cricketlove00]

This thread went from great awesome fun stuff to like math and shit.

[thechancellor]

Most likely Ann Arbor bound. Though I am riding a few wait lists.

You'll fit right in with that name.

I'm pretty sure I've said something to you about it before but it bears repeating.