List of non-compensated federal clerkships

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List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by charlesliu » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:16 pm

Hello Everyone

Is there a list of article III judges who offer volunteer positions?

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Re: List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by hernani » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:24 pm

Are you talking about judicial internships/externships for students? I don't know how compensation works for those...but a "clerkship" is a full-time, JD-required job that pays according to the federal salary scale (based on experience and cost of living). Definitely not a volunteer-type position.

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Re: List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by nixy » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:40 pm

If you're talking about doing an actual clerkship but not getting because you're not eligible to be paid for one in the continental US, I don't think there's any list - I think people just reach out to judges they're interested in clerking for to see if they're interested, because it's not usually a formal thing that's advertised, just something that people arrange less formally. (I know of one judge who would formally advertise for an unpaid position, but this was pretty uncommon and I don't think there's as centralized list because it's uncommon.)

If you're talking about an intern/externship, most judges will do these - your school should have a list of where people have interned/externed.

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Re: List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by theneuro » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:41 pm

hernani wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:24 pm
Are you talking about judicial internships/externships for students? I don't know how compensation works for those...but a "clerkship" is a full-time, JD-required job that pays according to the federal salary scale (based on experience and cost of living). Definitely not a volunteer-type position.
I think the poster means volunteer clerkships--i.e. those positions where judges hire clerks but do not pay them. Judge Kozinski always had a volunteer clerk, sometimes someone who was not eligible to work for the federal government in the United States because of immigration issues but wanted a clerkship.

To answer OP's question, sometimes judges will advertise a 'volunteer clerk' position. That's what you'd be looking for, but I'm not sure of any judges hiring for any of those positions right now.

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Re: List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:37 am

theneuro wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:41 pm
hernani wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:24 pm
Are you talking about judicial internships/externships for students? I don't know how compensation works for those...but a "clerkship" is a full-time, JD-required job that pays according to the federal salary scale (based on experience and cost of living). Definitely not a volunteer-type position.
I think the poster means volunteer clerkships--i.e. those positions where judges hire clerks but do not pay them. Judge Kozinski always had a volunteer clerk, sometimes someone who was not eligible to work for the federal government in the United States because of immigration issues but wanted a clerkship.

To answer OP's question, sometimes judges will advertise a 'volunteer clerk' position. That's what you'd be looking for, but I'm not sure of any judges hiring for any of those positions right now.
There are a few positions in SDNY right now listed as "unpaid."

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Re: List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by hernani » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:43 am

Huh, then I stand corrected. I (obviously) had no idea that volunteer clerkships were a thing. OP, if that's the position you're in wrt immigration stuff, then best of luck figuring things out.

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Re: List of non-compensated federal clerkships

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:32 am

Bacharach on CA10 posted about a volunteer clerkship. He's supposed to be excellent.

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