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2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread
Not sure if it is a little early, but thought I'd start this thread. Wondering if there has been any movement already for 2023-2024 hiring and when to expect the most movement. 

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It is not too early lol. I know a decent chunk of judges have started filling these slots. It seems that having to hire 1Ls with one semester of grades last year has emboldened the judges to push hiring even earlier.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:19 pmNot sure if it is a little early, but thought I'd start this thread. Wondering if there has been any movement already for 2023-2024 hiring and when to expect the most movement.![]()
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Oh fuck my life.
Maybe by this point I'll have been working for ~2 years and can get something. But still...Jesus.
Maybe by this point I'll have been working for ~2 years and can get something. But still...Jesus.
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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread
I assume this thread is a bit of a joke--even the off-plan cycle isn't to 2023 yet, 2023 off-plan will mostly fill this summer--but there are some off-plan judges who hire extraordinarily early. I know that Bibas, Newsom, Richardson, and O'Scannlain have hired in 1L spring before for example.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:36 pmIt is not too early lol. I know a decent chunk of judges have started filling these slots. It seems that having to hire 1Ls with one semester of grades last year has emboldened the judges to push hiring even earlier.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:19 pmNot sure if it is a little early, but thought I'd start this thread. Wondering if there has been any movement already for 2023-2024 hiring and when to expect the most movement.![]()
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I'm not OP, but I know quite a few judges that have started filling slots for 2024-2025. Richard Leon was hiring students for 2023-2024 back in 2019. Hiring can be very early. Thinking about 2023-24 makes sense for some students now.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:43 pmI assume this thread is a bit of a joke--even the off-plan cycle isn't to 2023 yet, 2023 off-plan will mostly fill this summer--but there are some off-plan judges who hire extraordinarily early. I know that Bibas, Newsom, Richardson, and O'Scannlain have hired in 1L spring before for example.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:36 pmIt is not too early lol. I know a decent chunk of judges have started filling these slots. It seems that having to hire 1Ls with one semester of grades last year has emboldened the judges to push hiring even earlier.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:19 pmNot sure if it is a little early, but thought I'd start this thread. Wondering if there has been any movement already for 2023-2024 hiring and when to expect the most movement.![]()
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I'm not beholden to the plan, but curious when on-plan hiring will start having movement? I'm interested in COA and I've seen 40+ posts on OSCAR already for 2023-2024.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:43 pmI assume this thread is a bit of a joke--even the off-plan cycle isn't to 2023 yet, 2023 off-plan will mostly fill this summer--but there are some off-plan judges who hire extraordinarily early. I know that Bibas, Newsom, Richardson, and O'Scannlain have hired in 1L spring before for example.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:36 pmIt is not too early lol. I know a decent chunk of judges have started filling these slots. It seems that having to hire 1Ls with one semester of grades last year has emboldened the judges to push hiring even earlier.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:19 pmNot sure if it is a little early, but thought I'd start this thread. Wondering if there has been any movement already for 2023-2024 hiring and when to expect the most movement.![]()
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Plan judges can only hire 2Ls starting in June and most don't hire even 3Ls and alumni until then, but some do move earlier for 3Ls and alumni.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:42 pmI'm not beholden to the plan, but curious when on-plan hiring will start having movement? I'm interested in COA and I've seen 40+ posts on OSCAR already for 2023-2024.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:43 pmI assume this thread is a bit of a joke--even the off-plan cycle isn't to 2023 yet, 2023 off-plan will mostly fill this summer--but there are some off-plan judges who hire extraordinarily early. I know that Bibas, Newsom, Richardson, and O'Scannlain have hired in 1L spring before for example.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:36 pmIt is not too early lol. I know a decent chunk of judges have started filling these slots. It seems that having to hire 1Ls with one semester of grades last year has emboldened the judges to push hiring even earlier.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:19 pmNot sure if it is a little early, but thought I'd start this thread. Wondering if there has been any movement already for 2023-2024 hiring and when to expect the most movement.![]()
The overwhelming majority of judges are hiring for 2022 and/or 2023 this summer (largely depending on on vs. off plan, the latter is always a year ahead of the plan because they hire 1Ls). Getting too far ahead of the plan isn't really in anyone's interest--clerking as a midlevel isn't ideal, judges lose out on later-applying candidates, and judges can have trouble attracting clerks (e.g. last year there was a report of Katzmann getting turned down for Lohier). Even some big feeders like Fletcher, Tatel, and Watford aren't ahead at all. The big exceptions are SDNY and CA2, which tend to hire farther out, and some judges like Katsas who virtually exclusively hire double-clerks (I think Katsas is hiring for 2024).
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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread
Many judges have already filled their 2023 slots. I will be clerking on 2/9/DC COA for 2023 and my judge has already filled all the slots.
I'm a 3L around top 15-20 percent at a T10 with LR. My judge is Republican appointed, and I'm on my school's FedSoc Board.
I'm a 3L around top 15-20 percent at a T10 with LR. My judge is Republican appointed, and I'm on my school's FedSoc Board.
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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread
Is Livingston going / has she gone?
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