2017-2018 Post-Clerkship Hiring Forum

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten an offer from Winston & Strawn yet?

Bump. Anyone hear anything yet?

Still nothing. Anyone else?

Bump. Is there still Winston silence out there? I had a CB almost two weeks ago, no idea if the silence from them is normal or not.

I'd also be curious to hear about O'Melveny, Sidley, Jones Day, Arnold or Wilmer. I'd submitted applications in early March but so far, radio silence.

Anyone hear anything from Arnold & Porter in NY?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten an offer from Winston & Strawn yet?

Bump. Anyone hear anything yet?

Still nothing. Anyone else?

Bump. Is there still Winston silence out there? I had a CB almost two weeks ago, no idea if the silence from them is normal or not.

I'd also be curious to hear about O'Melveny, Sidley, Jones Day, Arnold or Wilmer. I'd submitted applications in early March but so far, radio silence.

Anyone hear anything from Arnold & Porter in NY?

Haven't heard anything post-screener; They seem to be moving slow.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten an offer from Winston & Strawn yet?

Bump. Anyone hear anything yet?

Still nothing. Anyone else?

Bump. Is there still Winston silence out there? I had a CB almost two weeks ago, no idea if the silence from them is normal or not.

I'd also be curious to hear about O'Melveny, Sidley, Jones Day, Arnold or Wilmer. I'd submitted applications in early March but so far, radio silence.

Anyone hear anything from Arnold & Porter in NY?

Haven't heard anything post-screener; They seem to be moving slow.

But you did have a screener? May I ask when, and when you submitted your app?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten an offer from Winston & Strawn yet?

Bump. Anyone hear anything yet?

Still nothing. Anyone else?

Bump. Is there still Winston silence out there? I had a CB almost two weeks ago, no idea if the silence from them is normal or not.

I'd also be curious to hear about O'Melveny, Sidley, Jones Day, Arnold or Wilmer. I'd submitted applications in early March but so far, radio silence.

Anyone hear anything from Arnold & Porter in NY?

Haven't heard anything post-screener; They seem to be moving slow.

But you did have a screener? May I ask when, and when you submitted your app?

I did - Sometime in March and my application was submitted at the end of January.

[Anonymous User]

Which Winston office did you interview with? Have you heard of anyone getting offers or rejections from them yet?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear anything from Arnold & Porter in NY?[/quote]

Haven't heard anything post-screener; They seem to be moving slow.[/quote]


But you did have a screener? May I ask when, and when you submitted your app?[/quote]

I did - Sometime in March and my application was submitted at the end of January.[/quote]


Got it. Thanks for the info, and good luck!

[Anonymous User]

post CB ding from C&B CA office

[Anonymous User]

Nobody has had offers or rejections from Winston & Strawn yet?

[Anonymous User]

Just got a rejection from Winston and Strawn. I thought it was really odd because my interview went better than any interview I've ever had, and I'd gotten offers from other firms. The hiring partner did tell me during lunch that the firm was unaware of its current hiring needs, but liked my resume and was interested in hiring a clerk. So, I'm wondering if the rejection was more of a need issue than fit issue.

[Anonymous User]

Just got a rejection from Winston and Strawn. I thought it was really odd because my interview went better than any interview I've ever had, and I'd gotten offers from other firms. The hiring partner did tell me during lunch that the firm was unaware of its current hiring needs, but liked my resume and was interested in hiring a clerk. So, I'm wondering if the rejection was more of a need issue than fit issue.

I had a couple of similar experiences. Most offices are probably only hiring 1 or 2 or maybe 3 clerks maximum. You never know who else was interviewing and how many interviews they did or how close the decision was, just that you didn't get the offer. Oh well, that's why you can't get too attached to any one place before you get an offer. Sorry to hear it and congrats on the other offers.

[Anonymous User]

Just got a rejection from Winston and Strawn. I thought it was really odd because my interview went better than any interview I've ever had, and I'd gotten offers from other firms. The hiring partner did tell me during lunch that the firm was unaware of its current hiring needs, but liked my resume and was interested in hiring a clerk. So, I'm wondering if the rejection was more of a need issue than fit issue.

I had a couple of similar experiences. Most offices are probably only hiring 1 or 2 or maybe 3 clerks maximum. You never know who else was interviewing and how many interviews they did or how close the decision was, just that you didn't get the offer. Oh well, that's why you can't get too attached to any one place before you get an offer. Sorry to hear it and congrats on the other offers.

Does this mean they've probably already issued offers? Or first round offers? Is there much hope for those of us who haven't heard back yet?

[Anonymous User]

Just got a rejection from Winston and Strawn. I thought it was really odd because my interview went better than any interview I've ever had, and I'd gotten offers from other firms. The hiring partner did tell me during lunch that the firm was unaware of its current hiring needs, but liked my resume and was interested in hiring a clerk. So, I'm wondering if the rejection was more of a need issue than fit issue.

Do you mind saying which office?

[Anonymous User]

Just got a rejection from Winston and Strawn. I thought it was really odd because my interview went better than any interview I've ever had, and I'd gotten offers from other firms. The hiring partner did tell me during lunch that the firm was unaware of its current hiring needs, but liked my resume and was interested in hiring a clerk. So, I'm wondering if the rejection was more of a need issue than fit issue.

I had a couple of similar experiences. Most offices are probably only hiring 1 or 2 or maybe 3 clerks maximum. You never know who else was interviewing and how many interviews they did or how close the decision was, just that you didn't get the offer. Oh well, that's why you can't get too attached to any one place before you get an offer. Sorry to hear it and congrats on the other offers.

Does this mean they've probably already issued offers? Or first round offers? Is there much hope for those of us who haven't heard back yet?

Poster you responded to here. Was not talking Winston & Strawn specifically. Sorry didn't mean to mislead you.

[Anonymous User]

Just got a rejection from Winston and Strawn. I thought it was really odd because my interview went better than any interview I've ever had, and I'd gotten offers from other firms. The hiring partner did tell me during lunch that the firm was unaware of its current hiring needs, but liked my resume and was interested in hiring a clerk. So, I'm wondering if the rejection was more of a need issue than fit issue.

Do you mind saying which office?

Seconded. Was it Chicago? New York?

[Anonymous User]

If silence for two months from a firm after a callback, does that mean that you're out? I reached out to HR a month ago, but no response. So strange.

[Anonymous User]

If silence for two months from a firm after a callback, does that mean that you're out? I reached out to HR a month ago, but no response. So strange.

I'm afraid that probably is what it means, but that is incredibly classless by the firm. Some really "top firms" do not do the bare minimum in terms of communication with candidates and it is baffling and unprofessional.

[Anonymous User]

ding from Arnold & Porter NY post-callback! I have accepted an offer at another firm that was discussed here.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody have any interviews or rejections with Alston & Bird, either Atlanta or NY?

[Anonymous User]

So I accepted an offer with a firm and am going through the conflicts check now. On my conflicts form, there are a couple cases that I listed as a conflict because the firm represents someone on the case.

I got an email from the conflicts attorney saying they need to follow up about these cases. Should I be worried?

[Anonymous User]

If you accepted an offer from the firm where you summered, but are now jumping to another firm, what did you tell your first firm? Might be in this position next year and nervous about how/when to discuss with them.

[BlackAndOrange84]

If you accepted an offer from the firm where you summered, but are now jumping to another firm, what did you tell your first firm? Might be in this position next year and nervous about how/when to discuss with them.

I think it depends a little on the firm and office. For me, it was a V20, with a big office, with a big summer associate class. I politely informed the recruiting person that I had accepted a position elsewhere, then reached out to a few associates that I had a relationship with to let them know personally. With that kind of office for that kind of firm, it's nbd. They know their summers have options and many will never come back. Were it a smaller office or a smaller firm, I wouldn't have approached it this way.

[arez]

If you accepted an offer from the firm where you summered, but are now jumping to another firm, what did you tell your first firm? Might be in this position next year and nervous about how/when to discuss with them.

I think it depends a little on the firm and office. For me, it was a V20, with a big office, with a big summer associate class. I politely informed the recruiting person that I had accepted a position elsewhere, then reached out to a few associates that I had a relationship with to let them know personally. With that kind of office for that kind of firm, it's nbd. They know their summers have options and many will never come back. Were it a smaller office or a smaller firm, I wouldn't have approached it this way.

Curious about this also and specifically with regard to how paying back any stipends/bar expenses was handled. Also is notifying someone in HR sufficient or should you also email hiring partner?

[BlackAndOrange84]

If you accepted an offer from the firm where you summered, but are now jumping to another firm, what did you tell your first firm? Might be in this position next year and nervous about how/when to discuss with them.

I think it depends a little on the firm and office. For me, it was a V20, with a big office, with a big summer associate class. I politely informed the recruiting person that I had accepted a position elsewhere, then reached out to a few associates that I had a relationship with to let them know personally. With that kind of office for that kind of firm, it's nbd. They know their summers have options and many will never come back. Were it a smaller office or a smaller firm, I wouldn't have approached it this way.

Curious about this also and specifically with regard to how paying back any stipends/bar expenses was handled. Also is notifying someone in HR sufficient or should you also email hiring partner?

I couldn't say re: stipend and bar expenses because of a policy of my judge. I wouldn't reach out to the hiring partner unless I had a relationship with him or it was a smaller office or firm.

[Anonymous User]

I saw (several posts up) people referring to Arnold & Porter screeners and callbacks. What's the difference for us clerks? Aren't all of these interviews callbacks? Or does A & P have two or more rounds?

[Anonymous User]

It looks like I may have struck out. I have had so many callbacks with firms from a flyover DC. It doesn't look like anything is panning out. I don't know what to do at this point... I still have a few to hear back from, but given the length of time it doesn't look good. I also have some more coming up, but if the past ones didn't go well it's hard to imagine these few left will go any better. How do we keep up hope? I'm running out of time and places to apply to.