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Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:31 pm

Current D.Ct. clerk. Heading to CO this summer with some friends. I'm guessing they'll take advantage of the recreational marijuana while we're there. Am I wrong in thinking I should avoid smoking/being around marijuana, given the federal laws?

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:57 pm

Not sure if it's different rules for clerks, but DOJ attorneys are not permitted to use marijuana anywhere without a prescription.

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by jbagelboy » Sun May 01, 2016 12:02 am

I'm guessing you don't smoke weed "recreationally" where you live then?

I can't imagine you'd be at risk for anything unless someone could prove possession in a state where possession is criminalized. In California, for example, if police were to arrive while people were getting high, as long as you didn't claim possession of the substance and you weren't literally ripping the bong while they walked in, you wouldn't be in any trouble. Weed isn't a big deal. In CO or Oregon where it's protected by law, I can't imagine why you would ever worry about getting high (and especially not about being around people getting high). You can relax

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon May 02, 2016 2:01 am

Do you want to work in government someday? Marijuana use on its own isn't usually a problem if you need to get a security clearance, but any drug use *while in federal government service* is a much bigger problem. Potentially an auto-ding, depending on the agency and the kind of clearance.
Anonymous User wrote:Not sure if it's different rules for clerks, but DOJ attorneys are not permitted to use marijuana anywhere without a prescription.
Wait, are people in DOJ really allowed to use marijuana with a prescription?

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by MKC » Mon May 02, 2016 2:19 am

I get that the state of Colorado decriminalized it, but isn't it still a schedule 1 controlled substance under federal law? More to the point, isn't using or possessing marijuana still a federal crime?

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by rpupkin » Mon May 02, 2016 2:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:Current D.Ct. clerk. Heading to CO this summer with some friends. I'm guessing they'll take advantage of the recreational marijuana while we're there. Am I wrong in thinking I should avoid smoking/being around marijuana, given the federal laws?
I'm sure you're breaking several laws—including federal laws—every week. What are you worried about, exactly?

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon May 02, 2016 6:56 pm

I interviewed at the USAOs in SDNY and DDC. Both required me to disclose all the drugs I've ever used and when I used them, and then asked in another section if I had ever used drugs since I became an attorney. IIRC, I had to sign a declaration under penalty of perjury. The disclosure said they'd be doing a background check if I got an offer, and would fire me if it turned out I had lied. That's enough incentive for me to not smoke pot. But if you don't care about potential USAO employment, or if you're cool with lying on their application, then I guess that doesn't matter too much.

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon May 02, 2016 9:57 pm

(OP) No, not a pot smoker. I thought it would be fun to try it in a state where it's legal under state law, but I don't want to rule out future government employment.

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by rpupkin » Mon May 02, 2016 10:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:(OP) No, not a pot smoker. I thought it would be fun to try it in a state where it's legal under state law, but I don't want to rule out future government employment.
You wouldn't be ruling out future government employment.

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by kellyfrost » Mon May 02, 2016 10:14 pm

I would argue that for a law clerk, especially in District Court, that marijuana is actually a performance enhancing drug.
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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue May 03, 2016 9:29 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:(OP) No, not a pot smoker. I thought it would be fun to try it in a state where it's legal under state law, but I don't want to rule out future government employment.
You wouldn't be ruling out future government employment.
So just disclose?

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by Anonymous User » Thu May 05, 2016 9:29 am

kellyfrost wrote:I would argue that for a law clerk, especially in District Court, that marijuana is actually a performance enhancing drug.
Is it that stressful or that boring?

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Thu May 05, 2016 9:55 am

No. It was a joke.

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by kellyfrost » Thu May 05, 2016 11:10 am

A. Nony Mouse wrote:No. It was a joke.
Yes, Nony is correct. It was a joke.
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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by 2012LawGrad » Thu May 19, 2016 11:21 pm

I would be more concerned about how intentionally breaking a federal law, even a dumb federal law, reflects on your employer and the court system more generally.

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by rpupkin » Fri May 20, 2016 12:50 am

2012LawGrad wrote:I would be more concerned about how intentionally breaking a federal law, even a dumb federal law, reflects on your employer and the court system more generally.
???

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by bearsfan23 » Fri May 20, 2016 1:21 am

Why not just ask your judge OP?

Nobody on TLS can give you a real answer and you seem very concerned about making sure you live your life to the letter of the law

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Re: Recreational marijuana in CO

Post by 2012LawGrad » Fri May 20, 2016 6:55 am

rpupkin wrote:
2012LawGrad wrote:I would be more concerned about how intentionally breaking a federal law, even a dumb federal law, reflects on your employer and the court system more generally.
???
When a judge is in the business of sentencing folks for federal criminal violations (including marijuana related ones), it reflects poorly on the judge and the court system when his or her staff smoke pot. Why is this difficult to understand? And just because DOJ may not be enforcing the law and the law is a dumb one does not mean that smoking pot in CO is no longer a federal offense.

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