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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:38 pm

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Any movemet from SDNY judges? (I assume of course, yes, but wondering which ones).

I know Failla interviewed and made at least one offer yesterday, and Karas is interviewing today.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:31 pm

Has anyone heard anything about Ninth Circuit movement (District and COA)?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

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Gleason (D-Alaska) and Donato (NDCA) both filled

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:59 pm

Bloomekatz (CA6) has moved

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Toastedwalnutsauce » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:50 pm

Anyone know or have thoughts on if Lee (Chicago / 7C judge) has moved??

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:18 pm

Have any DDC judges made offers? I know most have interviewed.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

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Bloomekatz (CA6) has moved
She also hired a 2L pre-plan

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:07 pm

Should we assume at this point if we haven't heard yet then we are dead for the majority of EDNY/SDNY?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:33 pm

Hi all,

Realizing that my OSCAR profile when I submitted all of my OSCAR applications still said 1.5 years of grades instead of 2 (because of when I created my account). Obviously really silly mistake on my part. I fixed it now, but all my apps were finalized before I realized. Do judges/clerks filter for this, and has this affected my chances? Not lost on me that I have only had movement on email applications, not OSCAR applications yet...

And now, having fixed this, does this automatically update my applications or will this still be a problem for my previously submitted applications?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am

How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:16 am

Anyone heard anything from the New Haven Second Circuit - Calabresi, Nardini, Cabranes, Kahn?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

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How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
I am at a T6 and have gotten 1 district interview and 1 circuit.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

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How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
I am at a T6 and have gotten 1 district interview and 1 circuit.
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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:01 am

Top 5% at T14 and flagship journal. Zero interviews.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am

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How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

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How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
HYS, roughly top-third w/ a circuit clerkship already. Two district interviews lined up so far.

The vast majority of interviews in our tracker have been 2/9/DC/SDNY/NDCA/CDCA, and only a couple people have more than one. Not a lot of traction anywhere else in the first couple days, though we'll know more once the weekend comes.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 am

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Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am
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Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.
Is top 10% at a t14 not pretty competitive? My understanding is that people in the top 1/3 get D. Ct. clerkships all the time. Or is your thinking that its still early?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:59 am

Top 10%, T14, interesting softs think SLIP or White House/SCOTUS internship. Would I not be competitive for EDNY / Some D.C. district courts?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:08 pm

I am top 5% at a T14 and on flagship and have heard nothing but silence

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:20 pm

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Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.
Is top 10% at a t14 not pretty competitive? My understanding is that people in the top 1/3 get D. Ct. clerkships all the time. Or is your thinking that its still early?
Still very early. Most judges move in the weeks after the plan opens, not immediately. It's really only those going for the most competitive candidates that start right now (e.g. SDNY/EDNY/Circuits etc)

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:22 pm

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Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.
Is top 10% at a t14 not pretty competitive? My understanding is that people in the top 1/3 get D. Ct. clerkships all the time. Or is your thinking that its still early?
For those on-plan yeah. A top 10% at T14 is competing with top 10% T14s with work experience and top 5%s at T6s on plan (and also top 5% T6s with work experience). Hard to understate how many apps a circuit judge or a competitive district judge gets when they are on plan, but a top 10% at T14 isn't necessarily going to the top of a massive pile in June.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:36 pm

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Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Just for reference - the top candidates at my T14 (think top 5%+, EIC, moot court, etc) had 5-6 COA/competitive dct interviews during the first few days of the plan opening. Other candidates with less sterling grades but great hooks had 3-4 interviews.

And even more people would get one interview, land an offer coming off that, then withdraw the rest of their apps. More judges than you would think will extend an offer either at the end of their interview or that same day, so there’s not always a need to do a ton of interviews.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:22 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.
Is top 10% at a t14 not pretty competitive? My understanding is that people in the top 1/3 get D. Ct. clerkships all the time. Or is your thinking that its still early?
For those on-plan yeah. A top 10% at T14 is competing with top 10% T14s with work experience and top 5%s at T6s on plan (and also top 5% T6s with work experience). Hard to understate how many apps a circuit judge or a competitive district judge gets when they are on plan, but a top 10% at T14 isn't necessarily going to the top of a massive pile in June.
What even are the "T6" if the actual rankings have Duke, Harvard, Penn and Virginia tied for fourth and NYU, Northwestern and Michigan tied for ninth?

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:06 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:22 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.
Is top 10% at a t14 not pretty competitive? My understanding is that people in the top 1/3 get D. Ct. clerkships all the time. Or is your thinking that its still early?
For those on-plan yeah. A top 10% at T14 is competing with top 10% T14s with work experience and top 5%s at T6s on plan (and also top 5% T6s with work experience). Hard to understate how many apps a circuit judge or a competitive district judge gets when they are on plan, but a top 10% at T14 isn't necessarily going to the top of a massive pile in June.
What even are the "T6" if the actual rankings have Duke, Harvard, Penn and Virginia tied for fourth and NYU, Northwestern and Michigan tied for ninth?
SDNY clerk here. Hierarchies are sticky. We still think of it as YSH - CCN.

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Re: 2024 Clerkship Hiring Movement

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:57 am
How many interviews do competitive applicants normally get in the first week? Top 10% at a t14 and only have 2. I have seen people in other threads saying it can take many interviews to get one, so I'm a bit concerned. Most of the movement happens in the first week right?
Getting 2 as only (note, still good, though) top 10% at T14 is great. You're definitely doing better than someone with your profile would suggest unless you were applying to 100s of judges.
Is top 10% at a t14 not pretty competitive? My understanding is that people in the top 1/3 get D. Ct. clerkships all the time. Or is your thinking that its still early?
Students who get lots of interviews in the first day or two tend to be top 5-10% or so at T6s or very competitive for non-grades reasons (diversity, Fed Soc, your odd Rhodes Scholar). At a traditionally lower T14 with a weaker clerkship program you probably have to be #1 overall or close to it. Not all judges move that fast and the vast majority of federal clerks do not clerk for judges targeting that level of applicant.

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