2017-2018 Post-Clerkship Hiring Forum

[BulletTooth]

Any action on Keker or Willenkin?

From Keker's website: "We will begin considering applications in February 2018 from federal judicial clerks for fall 2018 associate employment. California bar preferred. Principals only." (https://www.keker.com/careers/hiring/Associate-Hiring). I have no idea whether they're actually abiding by this--I would imagine they would consider someone's application before then if they had a reason for doing so.

[Anonymous User]

How do you guys apply to firms without a distinct Post-Clerkship application process? Do you just email the recruiting contacts?

[TEIAM]

How do you guys apply to firms without a distinct Post-Clerkship application process? Do you just email the recruiting contacts?

Yes. NALP provides some info re: when they accept applications. If I cannot find specific recruiting contacts for clerks, I send it to the email listed on NALP.

[objctnyrhnr]

How do you guys apply to firms without a distinct Post-Clerkship application process? Do you just email the recruiting contacts?

Yes. NALP provides some info re: when they accept applications. If I cannot find specific recruiting contacts for clerks, I send it to the email listed on NALP.

Where is this info on NALP?

[TEIAM]

How do you guys apply to firms without a distinct Post-Clerkship application process? Do you just email the recruiting contacts?

Yes. NALP provides some info re: when they accept applications. If I cannot find specific recruiting contacts for clerks, I send it to the email listed on NALP.

Where is this info on NALP?

On the "Recruiting & Hiring" tab under "Post-Clerkship Hiring."

For example: https://nalpdirectory.com/employer_prof ... 0day%22%7D

[Anonymous User]

Quinn just sent an email blast for a cocktail reception for NY and Boston offices

[Anonymous User]

Quinn just sent an email blast for a cocktail reception for NY and Boston offices

Can you share more info about this? Did they say they were gonna start actively recruiting people for their Boston office?

[Anonymous User]

Can we talk about how awful these generic ding emails are? I mean, don't get me wrong, they are better than ghosting, but not much...

"We are unable to (read: unwilling to) grant you an interview at this time, but we want you to know that, like, you are so super smart with your super smart credentials that were so super impressive. We wish you the best of luck with your legal career (despite the fact that firms like ours are the reason you are having bad luck with your legal career)... sincerely, Yalesnobs & Silverspoon LLP."

ugh.

[Anonymous User]

Can we talk about how awful these generic ding emails are? I mean, don't get me wrong, they are better than ghosting, but not much...

"We are unable to (read: unwilling to) grant you an interview at this time, but we want you to know that, like, you are so super smart with your super smart credentials that were so super impressive. We wish you the best of luck with your legal career (despite the fact that firms like ours are the reason you are having bad luck with your legal career)... sincerely, Yalesnobs & Silverspoon LLP."

ugh.

For those getting these ding emails, to what extent do we think they’re coming because the firm actually doesn’t have the capacity to hire at the office to which you’re applying and just wants to make it seem like you’re not good enough to make themselves look better? In other words, isn’t it arguably to the firm’s advantage to say on their site and NALP that they will hire former clerks (ie that they’re successful enough that they have the bandwidth $$ to do so), even in a situation where they aren’t?

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

[Anonymous User]

Yeah Jones Day is holding a clerkship reception in NYC but didn't invite the bankruptcy clerks. Weird because Jones Day has one of the biggest bankruptcy groups in the country.

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

LOL it's kind of funny. (I won't lie I'm a bit bitter.) That being said my court is in one of the largest cities in the country, and many (most?) of us are actually moving on to circuit clerkships anyway so I'm not sure it makes much sense for them to discriminate like this.

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

Flyover districts don't get nearly as much love from firms' recruiting. They all want 2/9/DC or SDNY/NDCA/CDCA/DDC.

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

Flyover districts don't get nearly as much love from firms' recruiting. They all want 2/9/DC or SDNY/NDCA/CDCA/DDC.

SDNY clerk here still waiting for my Kellogg recruitment letter...

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

Flyover districts don't get nearly as much love from firms' recruiting. They all want 2/9/DC or SDNY/NDCA/CDCA/DDC.

SDNY clerk here still waiting for my Kellogg recruitment letter...

what letters have you guys gotten?

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

Flyover districts don't get nearly as much love from firms' recruiting. They all want 2/9/DC or SDNY/NDCA/CDCA/DDC.

SDNY clerk here still waiting for my Kellogg recruitment letter...

I just got the letter, a couple days after my co-clerks, so I was starting to think they were doing some sort of weird targeting. It’s pretty standard and doesn’t tell you anything you can’t find online—I’m sure D. Ct. clerks can go ahead and apply and have the same tiny shot at hearing back. (The letter points out towards the top that they have hired 40 SCOTUS clerks...)

[TEIAM]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

LOL it's kind of funny. (I won't lie I'm a bit bitter.) That being said my court is in one of the largest cities in the country, and many (most?) of us are actually moving on to circuit clerkships anyway so I'm not sure it makes much sense for them to discriminate like this.

There is absolutely no reason to be bitter. If they didn't send it to your chambers, you probably didn't have a shot anyway. The events I have attended did not require an invite anyway. Just get the info, drink the free booze, eat the free hors d'oeuvres, and peace out. Sulking really isn't going to get you anything.

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

Flyover districts don't get nearly as much love from firms' recruiting. They all want 2/9/DC or SDNY/NDCA/CDCA/DDC.

SDNY clerk here still waiting for my Kellogg recruitment letter...

what letters have you guys gotten?

Literally every other firm you can think of that is having a reception or otherwise is in the market for clerks. The letter might be late, idk. Just thought I'd point it out for any other district court clerks feeling slighted.

[Anonymous User]

I'm pretty sure Kellogg is only targeting circuit clerks. CA2 clerks have gotten the letter, so if SDNY hasn't by now, they probably won't.

I also doubt it's a stats thing, my co-clerk and I are both moving on to (non-flyover) circuit clerkships and are right in line gradeswise for what Kellogg wants, but no letter in our chambers either.

[Anonymous User]

Quinn just sent an email blast for a cocktail reception for NY and Boston offices

Can you share more info about this? Did they say they were gonna start actively recruiting people for their Boston office?

Just a "come talk with lawyers from our New York and Boston offices" cocktail hour thing

[Anonymous User]

Movement at Yalesnobs and Silverspoon LLP

[Anonymous User]

Kellogg just sent recruitment letters to the circuit clerks in our building but not the district clerks.

Haha, small town district clerk here. This type of thing brings a smile to my face and makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

Why? I'll be clerking in a flyover district next year so genuinely curious.

Been clerking in a flyover since August of last year, and I've received a total of one recruitment letter during that time. You'll definitely have to hustle more to get interviews.

[Anonymous User]

Movement at Yalesnobs and Silverspoon LLP

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