Columbia Class of 2016 Forum

[kakistocracy]

Decided to be a gunner and sent them an email asking about the error.

I just want to know more about classes!

[MCFC]

Decided to be a gunner and sent them an email asking about the error.

I just want to know more about classes!

Seems like they've fixed it. Quality gunning.

[smdpnp]

you will be assigned randomly to a block of required courses

Can't wait to get sorted! Bobbitt, Bobbitt, Bobbitt.

[lunaraeon]

you will be assigned randomly to a block of required courses

Can't wait to get sorted! Bobbitt, Bobbitt, Bobbitt.

Not Slytherin... not Slytherin...

[KingFish]

you will be assigned randomly to a block of required courses

Can't wait to get sorted! Bobbitt, Bobbitt, Bobbitt.

Is Bobbitt the class party guy?

[lunaraeon]

you will be assigned randomly to a block of required courses

Can't wait to get sorted! Bobbitt, Bobbitt, Bobbitt.

Is Bobbitt the class party guy?

[cws277]

Now that the site is working (thanks, gunners!), I'm tremendously confused. I had always assumed that we all took Civ Pro, Contracts, and Torts in the first semester, but the site says everyone takes Civ Pro and Torts, and then we take Contracts OR Con Law OR Property. In the Spring it says the same thing. I know we get randomly assigned to the classes, so my questions can't really do any good, but I'm assuming that we will need to take on of those three classes in our 2L year. Is that right? Might this be a good question for the ask a CLS student thread?

[lunaraeon]

Now that the site is working (thanks, gunners!), I'm tremendously confused. I had always assumed that we all took Civ Pro, Contracts, and Torts in the first semester, but the site says everyone takes Civ Pro and Torts, and then we take Contracts OR Con Law OR Property. In the Spring it says the same thing. I know we get randomly assigned to the classes, so my questions can't really do any good, but I'm assuming that we will need to take on of those three classes in our 2L year. Is that right? Might this be a good question for the ask a CLS student thread?

I'm a bit confused by that, as well. But my understanding was the second semester had the elective as an additional class, and so you had 3 classes then 4 classes. Not liking how some of the electives I'd want to take might be barred depending on my section, though.

[Gantor]

Now that the site is working (thanks, gunners!), I'm tremendously confused. I had always assumed that we all took Civ Pro, Contracts, and Torts in the first semester, but the site says everyone takes Civ Pro and Torts, and then we take Contracts OR Con Law OR Property. In the Spring it says the same thing. I know we get randomly assigned to the classes, so my questions can't really do any good, but I'm assuming that we will need to take on of those three classes in our 2L year. Is that right? Might this be a good question for the ask a CLS student thread?

I'm a bit confused by that, as well. But my understanding was the second semester had the elective as an additional class, and so you had 3 classes then 4 classes. Not liking how some of the electives I'd want to take might be barred depending on my section, though.

Hm, that is different from how it worked for my class (just finished 1L at CLS, for the record). We all did Civ Pro, Contracts, and Torts in the fall and then Con Law, Property, Crim Law, and an elective in the spring. As long as your information is correct, it sounds like they're changing the 1L schedule for this upcoming year.

As for regular classes interfering with potential electives, maybe another 2L or 3L can correct me, but I thought that all the mandatory sections and electives were scheduled so that none of the former conflicted with any of the latter. Either there was a gap in the day where no mandatory sections were scheduled and all/most of the electives met or your spring semester section would get switched around to make sure you could fit your chosen elective in. But again, I might be off on that; I just remember not having to worry about or even consider scheduling conflicts when choosing an elective.

[lunaraeon]

Now that the site is working (thanks, gunners!), I'm tremendously confused. I had always assumed that we all took Civ Pro, Contracts, and Torts in the first semester, but the site says everyone takes Civ Pro and Torts, and then we take Contracts OR Con Law OR Property. In the Spring it says the same thing. I know we get randomly assigned to the classes, so my questions can't really do any good, but I'm assuming that we will need to take on of those three classes in our 2L year. Is that right? Might this be a good question for the ask a CLS student thread?

I'm a bit confused by that, as well. But my understanding was the second semester had the elective as an additional class, and so you had 3 classes then 4 classes. Not liking how some of the electives I'd want to take might be barred depending on my section, though.

Hm, that is different from how it worked for my class (just finished 1L at CLS, for the record). We all did Civ Pro, Contracts, and Torts in the fall and then Con Law, Property, Crim Law, and an elective in the spring. As long as your information is correct, it sounds like they're changing the 1L schedule for this upcoming year.

As for regular classes interfering with potential electives, maybe another 2L or 3L can correct me, but I thought that all the mandatory sections and electives were scheduled so that none of the former conflicted with any of the latter. Either there was a gap in the day where no mandatory sections were scheduled and all/most of the electives met or your spring semester section would get switched around to make sure you could fit your chosen elective in. But again, I might be off on that; I just remember not having to worry about or even consider scheduling conflicts when choosing an elective.

I'd heard about the switch to having different third courses for different sections before. But there we go--it should be one of the choices in the fall, then the other two in the winter.

And sorry, what I meant was that if I don't have contracts first semester taking something like advanced contracts concurrently seems silly/possibly not allowed, and another elective says "not for section 2" or something.

[cws277]

This is an abbreviated version of what the website says:

Fall 2013 Schedule for First-Year Students
Legal Practice Workshop I
Legal Research
Civil Procedure (all students)
Torts (all students)
Contracts or Constitutional Law or Property

Spring 2014 Schedule for First-Year Students
Constitutional Law or Contracts or Property
Criminal Law
Legal Practice Workshop II
Foundation Year Moot Court
First-Year Elective (you will register for one of the following First-Year Elective or one of the Upperyear courses that will be offering a limited number of seats to first-year students)

If this is right and I'm understanding Gantor correctly, we will have one fewer spring "core" class than the rising 2Ls did - we only have the elective + Crim Law + Con Law/Contracts/Property.

I looked into the class sessions being offered, and 6/7 sessions of Contracts being offered in the 2013-2014 academic year are offered in the fall, so it seems like almost all of us will have contracts in the fall. I do find it odd, though, that this site indicates that we won't all have con law and property in the spring. This may be worth an email sometime in the next few weeks.

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

Wait what? We're gonna have to take a 1L course during 2L? Someone please explain how that happened.

[philepistemer]

Double post

[philepistemer]

Wait what? We're gonna have to take a 1L course during 2L? Someone please explain how that happened.

While I don't know if your conclusion is right, this is pretty bad LR fail. Ors aren't always exclusive.

[philepistemer]

Oh nvm, there's facts I wasn't aware of.

[untar614]

huh, this is weird.

I have torts, civpro and contracts E&Es sitting on my desk right now cuz that's what I figured I'd need for Fall, and thought I'd have constitution, crim and property Spring. Not being able to plan unnecessarily far ahead is going to bother me.

[cws277]

Wait what? We're gonna have to take a 1L course during 2L? Someone please explain how that happened.

While I don't know if your conclusion is right, this is pretty bad LR fail. Ors aren't always exclusive.

The non-exclusive ORs is definitely another way to read that - we'll have the other two of those three classes in the spring. I read it in the exclusive way because when the line is used for the fall schedule it is definitely meant exclusively (i.e. we won't have two of those classes in the fall). Still weird that some of us won't have contracts in the fall...

[smdpnp]

Still weird that some of us won't have contracts in the fall...

It kind of happened before. One or two years ago, each 1L section had Contracts, Civ Pro, and either Torts or Property during the fall. Columbia just plays around with the order of their 1L foundational curriculum.

[jbagelboy]

huh, this is weird.

I have torts, civpro and contracts E&Es sitting on my desk right now cuz that's what I figured I'd need for Fall, and thought I'd have constitution, crim and property Spring. Not being able to plan unnecessarily far ahead is going to bother me.

What.. The.. You are just too far ahead lol

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

Oh fuck, E&Es already?

I was told I'd have three weeks where I'd be allowed to fuck around on Half.com making sure I have the right ones before shit got real.

I'm hyperventilating again...

[txdude45]

Oh fuck, E&Es already?

I was told I'd have three weeks where I'd be allowed to fuck around on Half.com making sure I have the right ones before shit got real.

I'm hyperventilating again...

What is an E&E?

[untar614]

Oh fuck, E&Es already?

I was told I'd have three weeks where I'd be allowed to fuck around on Half.com making sure I have the right ones before shit got real.

I'm hyperventilating again...

You're toast, son

huh, this is weird.

I have torts, civpro and contracts E&Es sitting on my desk right now cuz that's what I figured I'd need for Fall, and thought I'd have constitution, crim and property Spring. Not being able to plan unnecessarily far ahead is going to bother me.

What.. The.. You are just too far ahead lol

Please, I got a 20-year plan mapped to monthly granulation. You guys don't do this shit? That's why China is winning!

[lunaraeon]

I can't see them running a 1L course in second year, it would have to raise grading issues or at least cause problems with courses that rely on basic foundation material. Or, you know, just be absolutely silly. I'm throwing my hat in for 3 courses in the fall, 4 courses (elective included) in the winter.

As to which of the options, not buying E&Es until I actually know my section and fall class/look into the authors. Though I guess I could just borrow untar's pretty easily...

What is an E&E?

Examples & Explanations I think is the correct title. There are supposed to be ones that are super great, like... Glannon? for civ pro. Mainly supporting material for what may/may not be covered in class. (And then there are hornbooks if you want to gun like Clint Eastwood.)

[StillIll]

I admire the way many of you guys are much more prepared than I. I've been procrastinating even picking up a copy of GTM.


This is interesting though, I didn't realize that first month was essentially comprised of pre-class classes. I assume that schedules during that time are less hectic, so that is the prime time to blow all remaining savings / grocery money on nights out bonding with classmates.

[Sgt Pepper]

prime time to blow all remaining savings / grocery money on nights out bonding with classmates.

I completely agree