Cornell Law Class of 2015 Forum

[paulshortys10]

I've chosen Cornell, they definitely put the best offer on the table. Will definitely be looking for housing options during ASW next week.

Some more of ya'll have to join the Cornell/TLS FB group!

[POSERmyLOVE]

I just purchased my plane ticket and reserved a hotel from thursday until Sunday. So, if any girls would like to share a hotel room for that weekend I can take up to 3 more girls just PM me!

[Arbiter213]

For those who are pretty sure about Cornell, where's everyone thinking of living?

I was wondering about this too...Looks like Collegetown is really over-priced for what you get. And living with roommates (to keep costs down) seems pretty risky for 1L. Any thoughts from people that are knowledgeable about Ithaca housing?

Lower collegetown is, in my opinion, the best balance of cost/ distance. And finding a roommate can work out really well as long as you're a normal person and vet them properly. I've really loved living with my roommie- one of my best friends here.

[msblaw89]

For those who are pretty sure about Cornell, where's everyone thinking of living?

I was wondering about this too...Looks like Collegetown is really over-priced for what you get. And living with roommates (to keep costs down) seems pretty risky for 1L. Any thoughts from people that are knowledgeable about Ithaca housing?

Lower collegetown is, in my opinion, the best balance of cost/ distance. And finding a roommate can work out really well as long as you're a normal person and vet them properly. I've really loved living with my roommie- one of my best friends here.

Is your roommate a law student?

[Arbiter213]

For those who are pretty sure about Cornell, where's everyone thinking of living?

I was wondering about this too...Looks like Collegetown is really over-priced for what you get. And living with roommates (to keep costs down) seems pretty risky for 1L. Any thoughts from people that are knowledgeable about Ithaca housing?

Lower collegetown is, in my opinion, the best balance of cost/ distance. And finding a roommate can work out really well as long as you're a normal person and vet them properly. I've really loved living with my roommie- one of my best friends here.

Is your roommate a law student?

Yah he's another 1L- sorry if that wasn't clear.

[MrShneebly]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

[paulshortys10]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

The majority of TLS seems to have the same sentiment regarding going into a lot of debt at a T14+ law school. Not really sure how this article applies to Cornell though.

[MrShneebly]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

The majority of TLS seems to have the same sentiment regarding going into a lot of debt at a T14+ law school. Not really sure how this article applies to Cornell though.

Written by a 3L. I'm assuming he's drawing from his own experience.

[Arbiter213]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

The majority of TLS seems to have the same sentiment regarding going into a lot of debt at a T14+ law school. Not really sure how this article applies to Cornell though.

Written by a 3L. I'm assuming he's drawing from his own experience.

I dunno I really like it here. Seems like a roflcopter.

[johansantana21]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

The majority of TLS seems to have the same sentiment regarding going into a lot of debt at a T14+ law school. Not really sure how this article applies to Cornell though.

Written by a 3L. I'm assuming he's drawing from his own experience.

Lots of unemployed 2Ls here. Dunno about 3Ls. Take it as a warning.

[Arbiter213]

"Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Not what I've heard or experienced...

[msblaw89]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

The majority of TLS seems to have the same sentiment regarding going into a lot of debt at a T14+ law school. Not really sure how this article applies to Cornell though.

Written by a 3L. I'm assuming he's drawing from his own experience.

I mean it sounds eerie...but the 45,000 graduates who apply for 25,000 jobs includes Charlotte School of Law and that bogusness...right? If its 45,000 out of all law schools and more than half get jobs...I'm not entirely worried

[johansantana21]

I might get flamed for posting this, but I just saw this on the daily sun and wanted some input from current students.

http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opini ... law-school

Arbiter? Indicative of a good sum of the class or an outlier? To rofl or not to rofl, that is the question.

The majority of TLS seems to have the same sentiment regarding going into a lot of debt at a T14+ law school. Not really sure how this article applies to Cornell though.

Written by a 3L. I'm assuming he's drawing from his own experience.

I mean it sounds eerie...but the 45,000 graduates who apply for 25,000 jobs includes Charlotte School of Law and that bogusness...right? If its 45,000 out of all law schools and more than half get jobs...I'm not entirely worried

You should be, the curve fucks you up.

[johansantana21]

"Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Not what I've heard or experienced...

Maybe I hang out with 2L losers.

[Arbiter213]

"Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Not what I've heard or experienced...

Maybe I hang out with 2L losers.

More like I hang out with 2L gunners.

[Lincoln]

Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Define "lots." This goes counter to my impression. I knew three out of maybe 50 who went empty-handed at AJF/OCI and at least one of them now has a firm job. Naturally, people who don't have jobs are probably not shouting it from the rooftops, but "lots" seems inaccurate.

[MrShneebly]

Thanks guys. I thought the article did rehash a lot of points made frequently on this board, and it's a little more disconcerting from a 3L in light of the most recent NLJ percentages. However, it seems like OCI has picked up quite a bit.

This is only semi related, but I saw that Willkie Farr is hosting a bagel breakfast on campus for 1Ls soon. That is awesome.

[Mr. Somebody]

Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Define "lots." This goes counter to my impression. I knew three out of maybe 50 who went empty-handed at AJF/OCI and at least one of them now has a firm job. Naturally, people who don't have jobs are probably not shouting it from the rooftops, but "lots" seems inaccurate.

Unfortunately you could both be right. You could know lots of people with jobs and he could know lots without them. But I would also like to hear a number. IF you say something like that specifics are helpful to us anxious 0L's.....

[Arbiter213]

Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Define "lots." This goes counter to my impression. I knew three out of maybe 50 who went empty-handed at AJF/OCI and at least one of them now has a firm job. Naturally, people who don't have jobs are probably not shouting it from the rooftops, but "lots" seems inaccurate.

Unfortunately you could both be right. You could know lots of people with jobs and he could know lots without them. But I would also like to hear a number. IF you say something like that specifics are helpful to us anxious 0L's.....

Look at the NLJ numbers. That's his year.

[msblaw89]

Lots of unemployed 2Ls here.

Define "lots." This goes counter to my impression. I knew three out of maybe 50 who went empty-handed at AJF/OCI and at least one of them now has a firm job. Naturally, people who don't have jobs are probably not shouting it from the rooftops, but "lots" seems inaccurate.

Unfortunately you could both be right. You could know lots of people with jobs and he could know lots without them. But I would also like to hear a number. IF you say something like that specifics are helpful to us anxious 0L's.....

Look at the NLJ numbers. That's his year.

Did Cornell fall to #11 because of unemployment? Or because more of the class of 2011 didn't want biglaw? Anyone know?

[Arbiter213]

Did Cornell fall to #11 because of unemployment? Or because more of the class of 2011 didn't want biglaw? Anyone know?

Class of *2012 was the first doing OCI after the crash. What do you think?

I'm dumb and forgot what year it is.

[MrShneebly]

The author is class of 2012, FWIW.

[Arbiter213]

The author is class of 2012, FWIW.

Yah my bad on the typo, I meant 2012. I forget what year it is sometimes.

[woeisme]

Did Cornell fall to #11 because of unemployment? Or because more of the class of 2011 didn't want biglaw? Anyone know?

Class of *2012 was the first doing OCI after the crash. What do you think?

I'm dumb and forgot what year it is.

No, class of 2011 was.

[woeisme]

Did Cornell fall to #11 because of unemployment? Or because more of the class of 2011 didn't want biglaw? Anyone know?

Probably a mix of unemployment and clerkships. I'm class of 2011 so I can speak to this a bit. Also, I do know that a number of people have gotten jobs (many with large firms) after graduation.

For what it's worth, I think that as compared to some of its peers, Cornell is pretty bad (which I guess is good?) at gaming these statistics. I know people at NYU, Duke, and Northwestern who have told me some of the schemes their career services employ (like setting up temporary post-graduate unpaid internships with NLJ 250 firms and then counting those towards employment stats). Cornell doesn't game the system like that. I'm not sure what the rest of the T-14 does, though.

Ultimately, I think rankings of any sort need to be taken with a grain of salt and looked at overtime. Overall and across time, the bottom half of the T-14 (PBVMDCNG) will continue to place comparably in biglaw, with some differences as between particular firms and particular regions.