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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by imjustjoking22 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:21 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:I was pleased with the selection of restaurants. There seemed like a ton of good ethnic, cheap choices. The only thing missing is maybe higher end things, but when I did have access to that on a limited student budget, I usually blew wayyyyy too much money. I think I'll be really happy with the selection. Blows Hyde Park out of the water. :P
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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:23 pm

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descartesb4thehorse wrote:I was pleased with the selection of restaurants. There seemed like a ton of good ethnic, cheap choices. The only thing missing is maybe higher end things, but when I did have access to that on a limited student budget, I usually blew wayyyyy too much money. I think I'll be really happy with the selection. Blows Hyde Park out of the water. :P
There are some things on Main that are high end. Chop house, black pearl, vinology, etc.
I'm referring more to the higher end places I'd go to in Chicago. Nothing against those choices, but they're just not really on the same level. Which is, like I said, absolutely fine. I really need to be more responsible with money now that it's ALL loan money.
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descartesb4thehorse wrote:I was pleased with the selection of restaurants. There seemed like a ton of good ethnic, cheap choices. The only thing missing is maybe higher end things, but when I did have access to that on a limited student budget, I usually blew wayyyyy too much money. I think I'll be really happy with the selection. Blows Hyde Park out of the water. :P
Please tell me you're down to explore cheap little restaurants with me.
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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by The Duck » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:27 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:I was pleased with the selection of restaurants. There seemed like a ton of good ethnic, cheap choices. The only thing missing is maybe higher end things, but when I did have access to that on a limited student budget, I usually blew wayyyyy too much money. I think I'll be really happy with the selection. Blows Hyde Park out of the water. :P
There are some things on Main that are high end. Chop house, black pearl, vinology, etc.
I'm referring more to the higher end places I'd go to in Chicago. Nothing against those choices, but they're just not really on the same level. Which is, like I said, absolutely fine. I really need to be more responsible with money now that it's ALL
Lol, what are you looking for? They average like $40 a plate and have 5-star chefs. Our bill at chop house was like $900 for 5 people when I went with a firm. A few have been on food network and at least a couple are owned by chefs who have 5-star places in big cities. Frita Banditas for instance isn't 5-star but is owned by a 5-star chef. I'm just curious as to what you're used to eating.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by JoeMo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:30 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:I was pleased with the selection of restaurants. There seemed like a ton of good ethnic, cheap choices. The only thing missing is maybe higher end things, but when I did have access to that on a limited student budget, I usually blew wayyyyy too much money. I think I'll be really happy with the selection. Blows Hyde Park out of the water. :P
There are some things on Main that are high end. Chop house, black pearl, vinology, etc.
I'm referring more to the higher end places I'd go to in Chicago. Nothing against those choices, but they're just not really on the same level. Which is, like I said, absolutely fine. I really need to be more responsible with money now that it's ALL
Lol, what are you looking for? They average like $40 a plate and have 5-star chefs. Our bill at chop house was like $900 for 5 people when I went with a firm. A few have been on food network and at least a couple are owned by chefs who have 5-star places in big cities. Frita Banditas for instance isn't 5-star but is owned by a 5-star chef.
If I were to guess, by high-end she means expensive and trendy. (see NY, Miami, Chicago) Chophouse looks to be high-end but old school. Which is perfectly fine with me for my anniversary/birthday dinners since lord knows I won't be eating there every day.

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Post by imjustjoking22 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:30 pm

Des, how much is the b school gym membership? I'm not usually a gym person unless I can take classes there or have a workout buddy who is strict with me.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:37 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:I was pleased with the selection of restaurants. There seemed like a ton of good ethnic, cheap choices. The only thing missing is maybe higher end things, but when I did have access to that on a limited student budget, I usually blew wayyyyy too much money. I think I'll be really happy with the selection. Blows Hyde Park out of the water. :P
There are some things on Main that are high end. Chop house, black pearl, vinology, etc.
I'm referring more to the higher end places I'd go to in Chicago. Nothing against those choices, but they're just not really on the same level. Which is, like I said, absolutely fine. I really need to be more responsible with money now that it's ALL
Lol, what are you looking for? They average like $40 a plate and have 5-star chefs. Our bill at chop house was like $900 for 5 people when I went with a firm.
I think you're missing the entire point is that I'm *not* looking for it right now. When I'm back on a salary, I'll want to be in a city for this reason. But for law school, I'm totally fine with the Ann Arbor scene.

I guess what I would be referring to are the sorts of places with tasting/prix fixe menus. Examples in Chicago that I like would be Spiaggia, North Pond, Charlie Trotter's, and Cite'. Places with a sort of different vibe than a steakhouse even if they're not as *expensive*.

IJJ, $140 per semester or something along those lines. Nothing too extravagant imo.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by The Duck » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:47 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote: I think you're missing the entire point is that I'm *not* looking for it right now. When I'm back on a salary, I'll want to be in a city for this reason. But for law school, I'm totally fine with the Ann Arbor scene.

I guess what I would be referring to are the sorts of places with tasting/prix fixe menus. Examples in Chicago that I like would be Spiaggia, North Pond, Charlie Trotter's, and Cite'. Places with a sort of different vibe than a steakhouse even if they're not as *expensive*.

IJJ, $140 per semester or something along those lines. Nothing too extravagant imo.
I got that you're not looking right now. I'm trying to figure out how pompous you are. Food doesn't have to cost $100+ per plate to be high-end. We have plenty of high-end trendy places. Not as many as NYC...sure. But the cost is a function of what the market will tolerate, not the quality. I'm not sure how you can assess how high-end the food is anywhere without having eaten there.

You may have meant fancy. That's different than high-end. And, we have some of those as well. A word of advice, be careful how you come off. Unlike HYS, some of your classmates will never have eaten in a place that's $50 a plate. A large number of them won't be frequenting those places when they graduate and do PI. Michigan isn't one of those kinds of schools. Just some friendly advice.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:54 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote: I think you're missing the entire point is that I'm *not* looking for it right now. When I'm back on a salary, I'll want to be in a city for this reason. But for law school, I'm totally fine with the Ann Arbor scene.

I guess what I would be referring to are the sorts of places with tasting/prix fixe menus. Examples in Chicago that I like would be Spiaggia, North Pond, Charlie Trotter's, and Cite'. Places with a sort of different vibe than a steakhouse even if they're not as *expensive*.

IJJ, $140 per semester or something along those lines. Nothing too extravagant imo.
I got that you're not looking right now. I'm trying to figure out how pompous you are. Food doesn't have to cost $100+ per plate to be high-end. We have plenty of high-end trendy places. Not as many as NYC...sure. But the cost is a function of what the market will tolerate, not the quality. I'm not sure how you can assess how high-end the food is anywhere without having eaten there.
Yea, I'm definitely down to try different places out. I'm not pompous. I just love eating really good food. I don't demand that my wine is paired perfectly or that someone come by and scrape off my table between courses. I'm just addicted to food, so eating some of the best in the world is basically my favorite thing. Sorry if our differing tastes come off as me being pompous.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by The Duck » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:57 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote: I think you're missing the entire point is that I'm *not* looking for it right now. When I'm back on a salary, I'll want to be in a city for this reason. But for law school, I'm totally fine with the Ann Arbor scene.

I guess what I would be referring to are the sorts of places with tasting/prix fixe menus. Examples in Chicago that I like would be Spiaggia, North Pond, Charlie Trotter's, and Cite'. Places with a sort of different vibe than a steakhouse even if they're not as *expensive*.

IJJ, $140 per semester or something along those lines. Nothing too extravagant imo.
I got that you're not looking right now. I'm trying to figure out how pompous you are. Food doesn't have to cost $100+ per plate to be high-end. We have plenty of high-end trendy places. Not as many as NYC...sure. But the cost is a function of what the market will tolerate, not the quality. I'm not sure how you can assess how high-end the food is anywhere without having eaten there.
Yea, I'm definitely down to try different places out. I'm not pompous. I just love eating really good food. I don't demand that my wine is paired perfectly or that someone come by and scrape off my table between courses. I'm just addicted to food, so eating some of the best in the world is basically my favorite thing. Sorry if our differing tastes come off as me being pompous.
I never said my tastes were different. Just pointing out that to me at least, you were coming off as pompous. I've only ever heard one or two people here make a similar kind of distinction and it didn't go off well. The best food in the world doesn't equate to the priciest or the most formal. A2 is home to quite a few award-winning dishes. E.g. one of the best burgers in the world comes from a grease-spoon. Just don't be too quick to judge they aren't "high-end." And be even less quick to say it out loud. We have lots of foodies here...and a real foodie will tell you that price =/= quality.

I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:05 pm

The Duck wrote: I never said my tastes were different. Just pointing out that to me at least, you were coming off as pompous. The best food in the world doesn't equate to the priciest or the most formal. A2 is home to quite a few award-winning dishes. One of the best burgers in the world comes from a grease-spoon, etc.
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This is an unwinnable fight, and tbh I'm not convinced it's worth it. I come from an extremely blue collar background. Basically the only thing I've ever indulged in since I've made my own money is travel and good restaurants. You pointed out that AA has an expensive steakhouse, but I'm not interested in that (I don't eat red meat). Now you've decided to attack me on the grounds that I'm acting "pompous" when really I've just said the same thing the whole time: I really like a specific type of restaurant, and it doesn't really exist in AA, but that's OK. I *never* said there isn't good food in Ann Arbor; in fact, I said exactly the opposite. I said there is good, less expensive food, which is perfect for the living situation I'll have for the next 3 years.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:07 pm

The Duck wrote:I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
My own brand of friendly advice is to probably avoid calling other posters "pompous" for voicing their opinions when you're giving your own friendly advice.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by The Duck » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:11 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
My own brand of friendly advice is to probably avoid calling other posters "pompous" for voicing their opinions when you're giving your own friendly advice.
I call it like I see it. The fact you're used to a "specific type of restaurant" is why I think you're pompous. Essentially, you're saying you only like expensive restaurants.
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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by JoeMo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:11 pm

The Duck wrote: I never said my tastes were different. Just pointing out that to me at least, you were coming off as pompous. The best food in the world doesn't equate to the priciest or the most formal. A2 is home to quite a few award-winning dishes. One of the best burgers in the world comes from a grease-spoon, etc.
descartesb4thehorse wrote:This is an unwinnable fight, and tbh I'm not convinced it's worth it. I come from an extremely blue collar background. Basically the only thing I've ever indulged in since I've made my own money is travel and good restaurants. You pointed out that AA has an expensive steakhouse, but I'm not interested in that (I don't eat red meat). Now you've decided to attack me on the grounds that I'm acting "pompous" when really I've just said the same thing the whole time: I really like a specific type of restaurant, and it doesn't really exist in AA, but that's OK. I *never* said there isn't good food in Ann Arbor; in fact, I said exactly the opposite. I said there is good, less expensive food, which is perfect for the living situation I'll have for the next 3 years.
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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by imjustjoking22 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:17 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote: I think you're missing the entire point is that I'm *not* looking for it right now. When I'm back on a salary, I'll want to be in a city for this reason. But for law school, I'm totally fine with the Ann Arbor scene.

I guess what I would be referring to are the sorts of places with tasting/prix fixe menus. Examples in Chicago that I like would be Spiaggia, North Pond, Charlie Trotter's, and Cite'. Places with a sort of different vibe than a steakhouse even if they're not as *expensive*.

IJJ, $140 per semester or something along those lines. Nothing too extravagant imo.
I got that you're not looking right now. I'm trying to figure out how pompous you are. Food doesn't have to cost $100+ per plate to be high-end. We have plenty of high-end trendy places. Not as many as NYC...sure. But the cost is a function of what the market will tolerate, not the quality. I'm not sure how you can assess how high-end the food is anywhere without having eaten there.
Yea, I'm definitely down to try different places out. I'm not pompous. I just love eating really good food. I don't demand that my wine is paired perfectly or that someone come by and scrape off my table between courses. I'm just addicted to food, so eating some of the best in the world is basically my favorite thing. Sorry if our differing tastes come off as me being pompous.
I never said my tastes were different. Just pointing out that to me at least, you were coming off as pompous. I've only ever heard one or two people here make a similar kind of distinction and it didn't go off well. The best food in the world doesn't equate to the priciest or the most formal. A2 is home to quite a few award-winning dishes. E.g. one of the best burgers in the world comes from a grease-spoon. Just don't be too quick to judge they aren't "high-end." And be even less quick to say it out loud. We have lots of foodies here...and a real foodie will tell you that price =/= quality.

I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
You're really reading too much into that. Chill out.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by franklyscarlet » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:19 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
My own brand of friendly advice is to probably avoid calling other posters "pompous" for voicing their opinions when you're giving your own friendly advice.
I call it like I see it. The fact you're used to a "specific type of restaurant" is why I think you're pompous. Essentially, you're saying you only like expensive restaurants.
0_o I think you're reading something very different than the rest of us.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:19 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
My own brand of friendly advice is to probably avoid calling other posters "pompous" for voicing their opinions when you're giving your own friendly advice.
I call it like I see it. The fact you're used to a "specific type of restaurant" is why I think you're pompous. Essentially, you're saying you only like expensive restaurants.
Saying I like a certain type of restaurant =/= saying I only like a certain type of restaurant. I'm also a huge fan of the Olive Garden. I wish I meant that ironically, but I do not. Some house blush wine and chicken gnocchi soup is pure ecstasy.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by aekea » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:20 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
My own brand of friendly advice is to probably avoid calling other posters "pompous" for voicing their opinions when you're giving your own friendly advice.
I call it like I see it. The fact you're used to a "specific type of restaurant" is why I think you're pompous. Essentially, you're saying you only like expensive restaurants.
She's not saying she only likes expensive restaurants. She said the sort of restaurant she tends to spend too much money at doesn't exist in AA which was probably a good thing considering she's going to be a poor student for the next few years. Then, you inquired how this could be the case, considering how expensive certain restaurants in AA can be. When she said that it wasn't the price of the food that she was after but a certain style of restaurant you called her pompous and claimed that she only likes expensive restaurants. You're not making much sense and you're being rude for no reason.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by The Duck » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:23 pm

aekea wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
My own brand of friendly advice is to probably avoid calling other posters "pompous" for voicing their opinions when you're giving your own friendly advice.
I call it like I see it. The fact you're used to a "specific type of restaurant" is why I think you're pompous. Essentially, you're saying you only like expensive restaurants.
She's not saying she only likes expensive restaurants. She said the sort of restaurant she tends to spend too much money at doesn't exist in AA which was probably a good thing considering she's going to be a poor student for the next few years. Then, you inquired how this could be the case, considering how expensive certain restaurants in AA can be. When she said that it wasn't the price of the food that she was after but a certain style of restaurant you called her pompous and claimed that she only likes expensive restaurants. You're not making much sense and you're being rude for no reason.
I'm sorry you think I'm being rude. I wasn't really intending to be. Maybe I read too much into what she said. I did, however get several PMs from people in this thread saying they felt like she was coming off pompous as well. I was merely trying to give her a friendly warning. Maybe I misread her...I don't know. My point was that quality =/= price and saying these kinds of things can and do get taken out of context and give people an impression.

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Post by ScrabbleChamp » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:25 pm

The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
The Duck wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote: I think you're missing the entire point is that I'm *not* looking for it right now. When I'm back on a salary, I'll want to be in a city for this reason. But for law school, I'm totally fine with the Ann Arbor scene.

I guess what I would be referring to are the sorts of places with tasting/prix fixe menus. Examples in Chicago that I like would be Spiaggia, North Pond, Charlie Trotter's, and Cite'. Places with a sort of different vibe than a steakhouse even if they're not as *expensive*.

IJJ, $140 per semester or something along those lines. Nothing too extravagant imo.
I got that you're not looking right now. I'm trying to figure out how pompous you are. Food doesn't have to cost $100+ per plate to be high-end. We have plenty of high-end trendy places. Not as many as NYC...sure. But the cost is a function of what the market will tolerate, not the quality. I'm not sure how you can assess how high-end the food is anywhere without having eaten there.
Yea, I'm definitely down to try different places out. I'm not pompous. I just love eating really good food. I don't demand that my wine is paired perfectly or that someone come by and scrape off my table between courses. I'm just addicted to food, so eating some of the best in the world is basically my favorite thing. Sorry if our differing tastes come off as me being pompous.
I never said my tastes were different. Just pointing out that to me at least, you were coming off as pompous. I've only ever heard one or two people here make a similar kind of distinction and it didn't go off well. The best food in the world doesn't equate to the priciest or the most formal. A2 is home to quite a few award-winning dishes. E.g. one of the best burgers in the world comes from a grease-spoon. Just don't be too quick to judge they aren't "high-end." And be even less quick to say it out loud. We have lots of foodies here...and a real foodie will tell you that price =/= quality.

I really am just trying to give you friendly advice here...
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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Post by descartesb4thehorse » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:27 pm

I don't think it's worth pursuing this argument any further. If I came off as pompous, I wasn't trying to. Theduck said that if he came off as rude, he wasn't trying to, either. Let's get back to talking about the school and AA now.

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crooked wrote:I wished that Michigan had made it clear that I'd be having a roommate for the weekend.
They did. I think it was in the same section as telling you that they wouldn't subsidize a guest.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

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UnamSanctam wrote:
crooked wrote:I wished that Michigan had made it clear that I'd be having a roommate for the weekend.
They did. I think it was in the same section as telling you that they wouldn't subsidize a guest.
This is correct Unam, I saw the same thing.

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imjustjoking22 wrote:Des, how much is the b school gym membership? I'm not usually a gym person unless I can take classes there or have a workout buddy who is strict with me.
Branching off of this, I read a review that says the b-school gym doesn't offer that many classes/only has a few cardio machines. Does anyone know if this is actually the case. I'm all about classes and cardio.

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