Law School Legends vs. Sum and Substance Forum

[geoffree]

Anyone who has experience with these want to pipe up with a preference? Or is it the case, as I imagine, that it all depends on the prof? If so, which one (TLS or S&S) for which subject?

Just as a heads up, I'm an 0L. Please don't flame me for posting in the forum for Law School Students

[upgrade]

It depends heavily on your prof and the prof on the CDs. My property prof has what seems to be a unique approach, the S&S CDs are pretty much worthless for that class. Even without my unique prof, there is a lot of useless stuff in the property S&S. The Ks and Crim Law S&S are decent. The Civ Pro S&S is really good and fairly entertaining listening.

[Bezerkley]

I have used 3 of the Sum and Substance CD series.

Con Law was the worst of the 3. It was a good overview but because of the nature of the subject it is hard to really prepare you for an exam through a lecture series.

Civ Pro and Evidence were both outstanding. I could have skipped every class, listened to those CDs and done fairly well (as well as I typically do) on the exams.

[Dacos]

bump.

I'm interested in this "Law School Legends" audio that I've been hearing about lately. Has anyone here used it or know someone that has? Was it worth it?

[belligerentfuture]

Is there anything else out there that is decent besides TLS and S/S? I ask not because I think lots of audio lectures is going to replace case books etc, but because I am contemplating commuting 1.5 hrs each way (3 round trip) next year (1L) and that's a lot of time to spend listening to NPR....

It seems like the S/S ones are about 5 hours....which would be maybe 4 days of commuting...if I listened to it twice....

[awesomepossum]

That's an insane commute for law school. Especially come exam time or whenever you have a memo due you're going to want to kill yourself.

[belligerentfuture]

That's an insane commute for law school. Especially come exam time or whenever you have a memo due you're going to want to kill yourself.

Well, I have people I can stay with when necessary (i.e. finals, etc), but on a long-term basis it's gonna be the commuting. So, any former commuters have any audio suggestions??

[laxgirl37]

S&S Crim Law is excellent, but the K is only fair (the professor's voice is quite terrible). TLS civ pro kinda made me want to drive into incoming traffic- i've never heard anyone quite so excited about the subject as that professor!

[Publius39]

S&S Crim Law is excellent, but the K is only fair (the professor's voice is quite terrible). TLS civ pro kinda made me want to drive into incoming traffic- i've never heard anyone quite so excited about the subject as that professor!

Try S&S Civ Pro. Arthur Miller teaches it at Harvard and his examples are very good. It's still a little difficult to understand, but he makes things managable.

[RioGrandeLaw]

I've used many of them (hint- they are available for free through your law library's interlibrary loan program).

Good:
Finz on Torts
Cheh on Con Law (if you are in a class focusing on Con Rights)
Epstein on Contracts
Cox on Corporations
Berring Legal Reserach(Should listen to day 1 of law school)

Just OK:
Burr on Int. Law
Jurgensmeyer on Property (Property is just hard to explain...)
Dressler on Criminal Law
Miller on Civ Pro

None are bad. All will help. Ideal for long commutes.