C-c-crazyness at Alabama Law Forum

[06072010]

Ok, Bama 1L's. Spill it.

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[aguyingeorgia]

Damn.

[RTR10]

i can't believe you guys posted this!

[themillsman22]

holy crap. that law student is definitely dealing with stress.

[RTR10]

Ignore everything on that page except for the kid who posted a comment at 5:12. That person was in the class with us and it's a true account of what actually happened.

[msumike75]

Ignore everything on that page except for the kid who posted a comment at 5:12. That person was in the class with us and it's a true account of what actually happened.

Here is what that person said.

I was sitting in the room... within 6 feet. It wasn't 'nothing'.

I think the half-truths are probably more harmful than the real truth. We don't know what has happened since.

Class began fairly normal. Class begins and the professor began her lecture. Some time into it, he raised his hand and made a very weird comment. it was completely unrelated to everything going on in class, and the timing and content was very strange. Someone before class had written a happy valentines day note up on the board. (student, not professor). He asked if she could erase it off the board, and then started explaining that it was distracting, something about a date Saturday night, and how he couldn't do any of his reading this week because of that holiday. She asked if he was serious, and in a voice that sounded very joking, he said that no, he was only kidding. A little while later, maybe 15-20 minutes, he again raises his hand. We were looking at hypotheticals on a slide, and one involved both the University and Auburn. Again the timing and connotation of these comments were very weird and completely out of context. He asked her if she had written these herself or if she had gotten them out of the book. Again he looked very agitated. She said she had written them. He then asked her to change the slide up on the board, because Auburn up on the screen bothered him. He said something about how he has siblings that go there, and how it was very distracting to him. She seemed to notice something was wrong at this point, and just disarmed the situation by saying sure and changing the slide in the PowerPoint presentation.
After a while he began typing something on his laptop in Microsoft Word. He had been taking notes there, but what he was typing was different. I also heard afterward from someone sitting near him that he had been googling things on his laptop too (i.e. school shootings, OKC bombing). He raised his hand for the last time about 15-20 min before the end of class. At first he said he had a joke to tell, then an apology. He began reading it aloud. At first he said something along the lines of, I'm not like Nebraska or Colorado, and I'm not like Andrea Yates or Charles Murray or any of those other defendants we learned about in Criminal Law.. If you want to go through my bag, or my car, or my apartment, you are more than welcome to. and then some sort of apology about how he was sorry.

I think I was one of the few people that it clicked with that Nebraska and Colorado were references to school shootings. sometime during his talking, the professor asked him if this was the joke. He replied with something like 'yes, I just need to read all of it'. After he got finished, he was very visibly upset. He was shaking, his eyes had welled up and he was crying a bit. He was very twitchy and jumpy. He turned his chair and reached at the top of a black bag, and grabbed it by the top. He did not try to reach inside. Almost immediately, he put the bag back down, and then turned his chair face forward again. He reached for his keys, and his shaking intensified. He looked like he was on the brink of breaking down. With keys in hand, he got up and tried to leave. He did not pack up his things. He said 'excuse me' to the person next to him, and the guy began moving his chair up and out of the way very slowly. He suddenly seemed to change his mind and turned and sat back down. At that point he began using his laptop mousepad to highlight the text of what he was said in class, and made the font very large, so it took up the whole screen. After class I think the Prof kept him in there to talk to him.

To me it felt like he was trying to make amends, or apologizing for something he was about to do.. The room was very tense and very strange.. and I don't know how many people picked up on all the things that happened.. but it felt very intense sitting that close to him.

People that claim it's nothing are either stupid or naive. Saying you know him well enough to know he wouldn't do anything is the most invalid argument ever. The guy's parents from the NIU shooting also didn't think their kid was capable.

and please stop posting rumors and false truths. it wont assist in any way getting the kid the help he neds.

[woodford]

rammer jammer yellow hammer

[mathec1]

rammer jammer yellow hammer

Go to Hell Alabama!

The Alabama/Auburn hypothetical mentioned in the thread makes me cringe. To think I might have to put up with those for the next three years.

On a more relevant note, the occurance is pretty disturbing. I hope that kid gets some help. Also, I hope he doesn't end up retaking 1L classes next year.

[RTR10]

math are you going to Alabama next year?

[snowboarder2713]

From the dean's letter

I will have open office hours today for 3 hours from approximately 11:15 a.m. – 1:15 p.m.

Hehe. He definitely didn't major in Math.

The situation is serious and I don't mean to make a joke out of it. Administrators need to realize though that sending out a email that says nothing but implies everything starts wild rumors immediately.

[mathec1]

math are you going to Alabama next year?

Yeah I've made up my mind to attend if I get accepted. My stats are pretty firmly in range so being in state I figure to be ok on that front. We'll see yet.

I'm actually pretty excited about it. Do law students get a chance at football tickets? The Iron Bolw is in Tuscaloosa this year.

[citric]

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[mathec1]

I'm not particularly worried about the incident. By the account of what happened (ie: the kid getting upset about the Auburn hypothetical) it would seem that the crazy is from my alma mater at the same time I was there. I might even know the kid. As for the University of Alabama being at least somewhat responsible for not handling student stress appropriately, I don't personally blame the University. Theres no telling what is going on with that guy. Va Tech isn't any worse of an institution in my opinion because that nut job went off. I don't think anyone should be concerned beyond isolating this incident and getting that kid some help.

[RTR10]

That second "email" from the dean wasn't sent to the students.

He came to speak to our section today, and there was nothing found. The kid is getting the help he needs.

And yes, we do get football tickets. In either June or July, you'll get an opportunity to order the tickets. You'll get a mini package your first year (for about 20 bucks) which will either be 3 or 4 tickets, and you can choose the one with the Auburn ticket in it. If you want to sell the tickets, any ticket you sell can easily go over 100 bucks. I bought an LSU ticket for $200, then had to pay the extra $45 to get it upgraded to the student guest ticket for my boyfriend.

[mathec1]

And yes, we do get football tickets. In either June or July, you'll get an opportunity to order the tickets. You'll get a mini package your first year (for about 20 bucks) which will either be 3 or 4 tickets, and you can choose the one with the Auburn ticket in it. If you want to sell the tickets, any ticket you sell can easily go over 100 bucks. I bought an LSU ticket for $200, then had to pay the extra $45 to get it upgraded to the student guest ticket for my boyfriend.

Great news. Well I'm looking forward to being there next year. Did you take good notes? Can I copy them? Haha, I'm playing. I need to get accepted first. Once that gets taken care of... can I copy your notes?

[RTR10]

I guess you haven't seen my blog.

When did you apply?

[mathec1]

Application sent 1/19/08
Complete 2/6/08

LSN shows most decisions after 3-4 weeks so I'm expecting my decision to come sometime in March.

Nope I have not seen your blog, but I'd like to. Could you link it for me?

[RTR10]

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 11&t=21711

[06072010]

Do law students get a chance at football tickets

Why bother? You like crying?

Go Gators.

[mathec1]

Do law students get a chance at football tickets

Why bother? You like crying?

Go Gators.

This is a funny statement coming from a Gator fan to an Auburn fan. I only want 'Bama tickets to go to the Iron Bowl and to watch them lose to Mississippi State again.

War Damn Eagle.

[awesomepossum]

However, the most hilarious part of this whole thing is where one of the black (1L) students responds to an Asian student by saying, "To the Asian.....u aint black." Further idiocy follows.

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hahahahahahahaha


My fears about the south are obviously utterly unfounded.

[RTR10]

That wasn't UA.

[awesomepossum]

Did I say it was?

[06072010]

This is a funny statement coming from a Gator fan to an Auburn fan. I only want 'Bama tickets to go to the Iron Bowl and to watch them lose to Mississippi State again.

War Damn Eagle.

I'm just busting your nads. It's "aguyingeorgia"'s' fault. He's a duckhead.

[zhensley]

I'm also hoping to go to Alabama. I graduated from UAB, and am a first year PhD student at Iowa, but I've changed my mind and would like to come home!