Any cases of turning it around - UG --> LS Forum

[cach22]

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[Mredav44]

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[shock259]

Tons. Very little correlation, if any, between UGPA and law school grades. Personally, I didn't take undergrad seriously at all until senior year. Took law school very seriously. Did very well.

[Micdiddy]

Did you try your hardest in UG? If so and you still didn't do well, probably won't change in law school. But if you're like most everybody and didn't try at all then yeah no real correlation, you might kill it in law school or you may suck. But definitely try in law school.

[Holly Golightly]

Do people actually try in UG?

[03152016]

Do people actually try in UG?

[Chrstgtr]

Obviously possible.

The real question is whether it is worth it to take on the risk of assuming additional debt by attending the law school you will be able to get into with your UGPA. It is likely to be an awfully large cost for poor career prospects.

[Clearly]

Obviously possible.

The real question is whether it is worth it to take on the risk of assuming additional debt by attending the law school you will be able to get into with your UGPA. It is likely to be an awfully large cost for poor career prospects.

...kind of making some assumptions here

[Chrstgtr]

Obviously possible.

The real question is whether it is worth it to take on the risk of assuming additional debt by attending the law school you will be able to get into with your UGPA. It is likely to be an awfully large cost for poor career prospects.

...kind of making some assumptions here

Screwing up undergrad=poor UGPA
poor UGPA=limited and/or costly options for LS
limited and/or costly options for LS=poor job prospects and/or heavy debt

Many people here would warn against going to a LS with poor job prospects and/or heavy debt.

Obviously OP's definition of "not doing so hot" could mean he/she walked out of undergrad with a 3.7 instead of the 3.9 that he/she was capable of and the OP could be going to a T14 with considerable money. But in the universal definition of "not doing so hot," OP would probably be wise to think about the decision to go.

[lawhopeful10]

3.4 GPA in college because I was lazy and going out a lot. 3.9 at a T1 regional my 1L year. Law exams are their own skill set and being good at them doesn't mean you had to do well in undergrad.

[cach22]

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[09042014]

There is a sub 3.0 UG splitter clerking for SCOTUS right now.

[ScottRiqui]

I'm starting LS (T20 for what it's worth) next month. I didn't do so well in UG for a bunch of reasons. Went to a prestigious university out of state; it took me a while to adjust to university's culture; I had trouble figuring out how make up for the ground lost during a lackluster secondary education while striking a proper social/academic balance.

Considerings its 3 weeks left before 1L starts, I was looking for some insight from others who may have also had bittersweet memories of undergrad yet managed to/are managing to do well (top 1/3 - top 10%) in LS.

Cheers.

I'm starting 1L next month also, so I'll let you know in a year. I've got high hopes, though - UG was 25 years ago, and at the time, I kind of took a "pass/fail" attitude toward all of my courses (with predictable GPA results). I did worlds better in my master's degree five years ago, though, and TLS has scared me enough that I know how important LS grades are.

[09042014]

I'm starting LS (T20 for what it's worth) next month. I didn't do so well in UG for a bunch of reasons. Went to a prestigious university out of state; it took me a while to adjust to university's culture; I had trouble figuring out how make up for the ground lost during a lackluster secondary education while striking a proper social/academic balance.

Considerings its 3 weeks left before 1L starts, I was looking for some insight from others who may have also had bittersweet memories of undergrad yet managed to/are managing to do well (top 1/3 - top 10%) in LS.

Cheers.

I'm starting 1L next month also, so I'll let you know in a year. I've got high hopes, though - UG was 25 years ago, and at the time, I kind of took a "pass/fail" attitude toward all of my courses (with predictable GPA results). I did worlds better in my master's degree five years ago, though, and TLS has scared me enough that I know how important LS grades are.

Just trying hard is no guarantee in law school.

[ScottRiqui]

I'm starting LS (T20 for what it's worth) next month. I didn't do so well in UG for a bunch of reasons. Went to a prestigious university out of state; it took me a while to adjust to university's culture; I had trouble figuring out how make up for the ground lost during a lackluster secondary education while striking a proper social/academic balance.

Considerings its 3 weeks left before 1L starts, I was looking for some insight from others who may have also had bittersweet memories of undergrad yet managed to/are managing to do well (top 1/3 - top 10%) in LS.

Cheers.

I'm starting 1L next month also, so I'll let you know in a year. I've got high hopes, though - UG was 25 years ago, and at the time, I kind of took a "pass/fail" attitude toward all of my courses (with predictable GPA results). I did worlds better in my master's degree five years ago, though, and TLS has scared me enough that I know how important LS grades are.

Just trying hard is no guarantee in law school.

I know, but the stakes aren't quite the same for me, either, so it's a pretty good risk. I'm just saying that I'm not viewing my early-90s UG experience as a death knell for my LS career.

[First Offense]

I have a higher GPA in law school than I ever had in UG. I didn't take UG very seriously at all.

[Pokemon]

Does anybody have any examples (either from their own experiences, or those of others) of law students that didn't do so hot in undergrad turning it around in law school and crushing it?

- bored/anxious about starting LS, and figuring out how to turn it around myself - although undergrad is 3 years behind

thanks for you input

Stronger correlation that the higher your GPA in undergrad, the lower in your law school.

[florida1949]

3.3 UG, top 20% at CCN.

HTH

[Nova]

happens all the time

[06102016]

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[mw115]

Magna cum laude from Texas Law; 6 F's at Texas UG.

[uno, dos, tres]

i was a fucking irresponsible asshole in HS ----> college ( i went to a fourth tier whatever)----> layabout----> graduated magna from CCN. you have to have a) Underlying ability & b) Drive, tho

[Micdiddy]

There is a sub 3.0 UG splitter clerking for SCOTUS right now.

Give details.

Or not, if it's outing the person.

I'm guessing the one from NU.

[NotMyRealName09]

2.86 UG, 3.67 law school, magna cum laude, law review, and employed. So it totally happens.

[schweitziro]

Wholly anecdotal thread. But it can happen.

2.5 ugpa (2.03 lsac). 3.7+ at t2 lawl school (top 5%).