Question about Bluebooking Forum
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sweetfrenchtoast

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Question about Bluebooking
This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.
Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?
For example:
See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?
For example:
See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
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lawyerdown27

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Re: Question about Bluebooking
"But see" used as a signal needs to operate as a citation of the preceding material. Since it is a contrary signal, it needs to start a new citation sentence/be followed by a period.sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.
Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?
For example:
See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
Probably should move that But see string outside the parenthetical, or alternatively write a new sentence after the parenthetical using see as a verb and not a signal. Just my take.
- ggocat

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Re: Question about Bluebooking
I don't see a problem with including a signal like that in parenthesis, but it would be cleaner if you just start a new sentence in the footnote.
(Also, "but see" doesn't make sense to me in your proposed citation because it's not clear that a "discussion of y" is contrasting anything.)
(Also, "but see" doesn't make sense to me in your proposed citation because it's not clear that a "discussion of y" is contrasting anything.)
- alphasteve

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Re: Question about Bluebooking
Agreed. You shouldn't have a signaled citation in a parenthetical, whether in a textual sentence or a citation sentence. But footnotes can be a mixture of citation sentences and textual sentences.lawyerdown27 wrote:"But see" used as a signal needs to operate as a citation of the preceding material. Since it is a contrary signal, it needs to start a new citation sentence/be followed by a period.sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.
Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?
For example:
See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
Probably should move that But see string outside the parenthetical, or alternatively write a new sentence after the parenthetical using see as a verb and not a signal. Just my take.
Example:
Statement.^1
^1 See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs). Other authors have treated the four types as three by combining type x and y, see, for example, [textual citation], but no matter how separated, the treatment remains the same.
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gregfootball2001

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Re: Question about Bluebooking
This wasn't for your write-on, though...right?sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.
Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?
For example:
See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
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- northwood

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Re: Question about Bluebooking
gregfootball2001 wrote:This wasn't for your write-on, though...right?sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.
Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?
For example:
See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
the timing seems a bit strange to ask a bluebook question for any reason other than write on
- beepboopbeep

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Re: Question about Bluebooking
Suspicious timing.gregfootball2001 wrote: This wasn't for your write-on, though...right?
edit: scooped