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Question about Bluebooking

Post by sweetfrenchtoast » Sun May 11, 2014 10:04 am

This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.

Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?

For example:

See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.

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Re: Question about Bluebooking

Post by lawyerdown27 » Sun May 11, 2014 11:00 am

sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.

Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?

For example:

See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
"But see" used as a signal needs to operate as a citation of the preceding material. Since it is a contrary signal, it needs to start a new citation sentence/be followed by a period.

Probably should move that But see string outside the parenthetical, or alternatively write a new sentence after the parenthetical using see as a verb and not a signal. Just my take.

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Re: Question about Bluebooking

Post by ggocat » Sun May 11, 2014 11:01 am

I don't see a problem with including a signal like that in parenthesis, but it would be cleaner if you just start a new sentence in the footnote.

(Also, "but see" doesn't make sense to me in your proposed citation because it's not clear that a "discussion of y" is contrasting anything.)

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Re: Question about Bluebooking

Post by alphasteve » Sun May 11, 2014 11:31 am

lawyerdown27 wrote:
sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.

Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?

For example:

See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
"But see" used as a signal needs to operate as a citation of the preceding material. Since it is a contrary signal, it needs to start a new citation sentence/be followed by a period.

Probably should move that But see string outside the parenthetical, or alternatively write a new sentence after the parenthetical using see as a verb and not a signal. Just my take.
Agreed. You shouldn't have a signaled citation in a parenthetical, whether in a textual sentence or a citation sentence. But footnotes can be a mixture of citation sentences and textual sentences.

Example:

Statement.^1

^1 See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs). Other authors have treated the four types as three by combining type x and y, see, for example, [textual citation], but no matter how separated, the treatment remains the same.

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Re: Question about Bluebooking

Post by gregfootball2001 » Sun May 11, 2014 3:58 pm

sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.

Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?

For example:

See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
This wasn't for your write-on, though...right?

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Re: Question about Bluebooking

Post by northwood » Sun May 11, 2014 4:14 pm

gregfootball2001 wrote:
sweetfrenchtoast wrote:This question concerns Rule 1.2(e) Signals as Verbs.

Within the same footnote, can you use signals as regular signals as well as verbs? Or is there some type of rule regarding that every citation within a footnote should parallel the other citations in that footnote?

For example:

See Christina L. Anderson, Comment, Double Jeopardy: The Modern Dilemma for Juvenile Justice...(discussing four main types of restorative justice programs; But see xxxx for a discussion of y.
This wasn't for your write-on, though...right?

the timing seems a bit strange to ask a bluebook question for any reason other than write on

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Re: Question about Bluebooking

Post by beepboopbeep » Sun May 11, 2014 4:15 pm

gregfootball2001 wrote: This wasn't for your write-on, though...right?
Suspicious timing.

edit: scooped

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