Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question Forum
- E11e

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Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
I did well last semester, but I would prefer to do better this semester. I was literally one point below the top grade in multiple classes, so I feel like I have a good shot at moving up, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it.
I studied with a couple people before finals, but I was aware that I had a better understanding of the material and of how to approach the exams. They did not do that well on the exams.
I feel somewhat loyal to my current study group, and I feel relatively secure that helping them will not hurt my grades. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much it's helping me. It's always good to talk through things with people, but should I be seeking out people who I know did well to try and figure out what they did that I didn't?
Any thoughts appreciated.
I studied with a couple people before finals, but I was aware that I had a better understanding of the material and of how to approach the exams. They did not do that well on the exams.
I feel somewhat loyal to my current study group, and I feel relatively secure that helping them will not hurt my grades. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much it's helping me. It's always good to talk through things with people, but should I be seeking out people who I know did well to try and figure out what they did that I didn't?
Any thoughts appreciated.
- wbrother

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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
Shot in the dark here... Amy H.?!E11e wrote:I did well last semester, but I would prefer to do better this semester. I was literally one point below the top grade in multiple classes, so I feel like I have a good shot at moving up, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it.
I studied with a couple people before finals, but I was aware that I had a better understanding of the material and of how to approach the exams. They did not do that well on the exams.
I feel somewhat loyal to my current study group, and I feel relatively secure that helping them will not hurt my grades. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much it's helping me. It's always good to talk through things with people, but should I be seeking out people who I know did well to try and figure out what they did that I didn't?
Any thoughts appreciated.
- E11e

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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
Dan O.?!wbrother wrote:Shot in the dark here... Amy H.?!E11e wrote:I did well last semester, but I would prefer to do better this semester. I was literally one point below the top grade in multiple classes, so I feel like I have a good shot at moving up, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it.
I studied with a couple people before finals, but I was aware that I had a better understanding of the material and of how to approach the exams. They did not do that well on the exams.
I feel somewhat loyal to my current study group, and I feel relatively secure that helping them will not hurt my grades. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much it's helping me. It's always good to talk through things with people, but should I be seeking out people who I know did well to try and figure out what they did that I didn't?
Any thoughts appreciated.
kidding…sorry…not Amy.
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NotMyRealName09

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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
You answered your own question. If you feel like you're helping the group more than they are helping you, well, you're not helping yourself. I'd love a world where collaborative learning was encouraged and beneficial, but that is not law school. You're incentivized to not help others. So I say, don't. But it's also true that if you're in a group and are not the smartest person at the table, by all means, learn all you can in group.
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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
I think my concern is that working with people I know were at the top will help me, but will also help them so it doesn't necessarily help me beat them. If I help the people I currently study with, they might hit median, but I still benefit some from explaining things and talking through answers.NotMyRealName09 wrote:You answered your own question. If you feel like you're helping the group more than they are helping you, well, you're not helping yourself. I'd love a world where collaborative learning was encouraged and beneficial, but that is not law school. You're incentivized to not help others. So I say, don't. But it's also true that if you're in a group and are not the smartest person at the table, by all means, learn all you can in group.
There is the added annoyance that I don't particularly like the people who did well, but I can get over that.
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- lawhopeful10

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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
If the people you usually study with are your friends just study with them and if you want to feel more prepared spend some time studying alone. That's it.
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If you were a point off top scores it sounds like you can keep doing what you're doing and just work a bit harder, if possible. Switching groups may burn bridges and you never know if you'll find yourself in a new situation that is worse than your current, seemingly not so bad situation.E11e wrote:I think my concern is that working with people I know were at the top will help me, but will also help them so it doesn't necessarily help me beat them. If I help the people I currently study with, they might hit median, but I still benefit some from explaining things and talking through answers.NotMyRealName09 wrote:You answered your own question. If you feel like you're helping the group more than they are helping you, well, you're not helping yourself. I'd love a world where collaborative learning was encouraged and beneficial, but that is not law school. You're incentivized to not help others. So I say, don't. But it's also true that if you're in a group and are not the smartest person at the table, by all means, learn all you can in group.
There is the added annoyance that I don't particularly like the people who did well, but I can get over that.
Just a clueless 0L observation though. Good luck!
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- Tiago Splitter

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Explaining things to others can help a lot, even if your friends are idiots. Plus you get to hang out with your friends rather than those assholes who finished within one point of the top grade.
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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
A one point difference isn't going to be decided by who you study with. What makes you think the top people will help you out? You can't quantify how much explaining things to other people helps you clarify it in your own mind. You might do worse studying with other people. It can be easy to forget the basic most simple points if everyone gets it and waste time on stuff that is too esoteric.E11e wrote:I think my concern is that working with people I know were at the top will help me, but will also help them so it doesn't necessarily help me beat them. If I help the people I currently study with, they might hit median, but I still benefit some from explaining things and talking through answers.NotMyRealName09 wrote:You answered your own question. If you feel like you're helping the group more than they are helping you, well, you're not helping yourself. I'd love a world where collaborative learning was encouraged and beneficial, but that is not law school. You're incentivized to not help others. So I say, don't. But it's also true that if you're in a group and are not the smartest person at the table, by all means, learn all you can in group.
There is the added annoyance that I don't particularly like the people who did well, but I can get over that.
Just focus your studying on taking the exam. Find out from the professors where you lost points. Go from there.
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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
Are these people your friends? Like are they the people you socialize with outside of the context of class? If so, continue studying with them, you did fine from their group. If they are just randos and you have another friendship group/support network, then go ahead and find a study group you feel more academically on par.
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- ph14

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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
I voted to not do study groups, but that is my personal preference.
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Re: Disgusting Gunner Strategy Question
E11e wrote:I did well last semester, but I would prefer to do better this semester. I was literally one point below the top grade in multiple classes, so I feel like I have a good shot at moving up, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it.
On a more serious note, it doesn't matter what rank in the class the people in your study group have (within reason...the bottom dwellers are probably on their way to dropping out). I've kept the same study partners throughout 1L and 2L even though we're on varying ends of the rank spectrum. The better question is really whether or not the people you study with: a) aren't stupid competitive and completely incapable of being able to admit they might be wrong about a certain concept, and b) are people you genuinely like. I think the second part is just as important because if I'm busy stewing about the fact that person X is driving me bonkers and always does whenever he raises his hand in class, then I'm not focusing on what I should be focusing on.E11e wrote:I feel somewhat loyal to my current study group, and I feel relatively secure that helping them will not hurt my grades. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much it's helping me. It's always good to talk through things with people, but should I be seeking out people who I know did well to try and figure out what they did that I didn't?
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