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sangr

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very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
thanks all
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minnie7

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.
I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.
shit is tough
I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.
shit is tough
- eandy

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Richard Freer is your friend. Buy the supplement. Listen to the barbri lecture.
Then, CALI lessons.
You're welcome.
Then, CALI lessons.
You're welcome.
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bhan87

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Get Friedenthal's Civil Procedure Hornbook (either purchase or borrow it from your law school's library).
Read: Chapter 2 (Subject-matter jurisdiction), Chapter 3 (Personal jurisdiction), Chapter 4 (Erie). Those three chapters in this particular book are excellent at synthesizing every major Supreme Court case till 2005. The fact summaries are pretty spot on and the authors do a good job of extracting the most important precedents while considering the bigger picture (i.e. the earlier cases had a lot of other holdings that just don't matter nowadays). After doing that, just proceed reading whatever cases aren't covered.
For Erie Doctrine, you can almost really just rely on Shady Grove (I assume your class is reading this because it's the Court's latest on Erie). The case is pretty long, but it summarizes the entire thought process for doing Erie analysis in terms of modern jurisprudence. It also summarizes the holdings for all the other important Erie cases. In my opinion, you could make your Erie flowchart entirely from this case most likely.
Read: Chapter 2 (Subject-matter jurisdiction), Chapter 3 (Personal jurisdiction), Chapter 4 (Erie). Those three chapters in this particular book are excellent at synthesizing every major Supreme Court case till 2005. The fact summaries are pretty spot on and the authors do a good job of extracting the most important precedents while considering the bigger picture (i.e. the earlier cases had a lot of other holdings that just don't matter nowadays). After doing that, just proceed reading whatever cases aren't covered.
For Erie Doctrine, you can almost really just rely on Shady Grove (I assume your class is reading this because it's the Court's latest on Erie). The case is pretty long, but it summarizes the entire thought process for doing Erie analysis in terms of modern jurisprudence. It also summarizes the holdings for all the other important Erie cases. In my opinion, you could make your Erie flowchart entirely from this case most likely.
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mr.hands

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
I'll second the freer advice
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Jimbo_Jones

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
1. Listen to Arthur Miller's Sum and Substance on Civ Pro
2. Get a copy of Acing Civil Procedure
3. Skim the policy reasons only for the cases referenced in the above two steps
2. Get a copy of Acing Civil Procedure
3. Skim the policy reasons only for the cases referenced in the above two steps
- Bildungsroman

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
My advice is to catch up on civ pro. What have you been doing this semester to fall so far behind?
- yuzu

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
I'll be your Glannon when you're crammin' for your Civ Pro test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgObo75Y0Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgObo75Y0Q
- nshapkar

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
I fucking hate civ pro.
- I.P. Daly

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
http://lawschoolcasebriefs.com/
44 Civ Pro outlines and tons of case briefs.
The outlines are slightly dated, but the new stuff is easy to fill in...
44 Civ Pro outlines and tons of case briefs.
The outlines are slightly dated, but the new stuff is easy to fill in...
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secretaryoftaste

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
acing civ pro is very short and incredibly helpful. Sounds like it could be a perfect quick fix for you.
- eandy

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
stay far far away. it over simplifies so there are important wrinkles you'll miss. your professor will test those. avoid.secretaryoftaste wrote:acing civ pro is very short and incredibly helpful. Sounds like it could be a perfect quick fix for you.
- chem

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Be careful about venue. It changed in 2012, so any outlines/supplements you get probably wont have it
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- Lacepiece23

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Your at Cornell right? I think everyones in the same situation.minnie7 wrote:I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.
I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.
shit is tough
- evilxs

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
I was exactly where you are during my 1L year. I bought Glannon's guide to civil procedure and did the entire thing over turkey break. I went from no clue to B+ in a week of studying. Not fantastic, but lifesaver indeed.
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uvabro

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
250? we've done like 600.Lacepiece23 wrote:Your at Cornell right? I think everyones in the same situation.minnie7 wrote:I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.
I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.
shit is tough
- Lacepiece23

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
I feel like we might get a little less reading than other schools considering we have 4 classes and a graded lrw. However, we do have civ pro for a full year.uvabro wrote:250? we've done like 600.Lacepiece23 wrote:Your at Cornell right? I think everyones in the same situation.minnie7 wrote:I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.
I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.
shit is tough
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Kramer

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Same problem as OP, but not with regard to civ pro....TORTS instead (and some property)
What can I do to most efficiently catch up, if it's even possible
What can I do to most efficiently catch up, if it's even possible
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thegrayman

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Torts is considered to be a relatively easy course, I would say of all the courses to be behind in, torts is the best by far. Spend time getting the basic down cold (DBCD -> establishing duty, showing breach, showing causation (all possible ways), showing damages. It's 100% guaranteed on your final that negligence is going to show up. Someone is going to do something stupid and someone is going to get hurt.Kramer wrote:Same problem as OP, but not with regard to civ pro....TORTS instead (and some property)
What can I do to most efficiently catch up, if it's even possible
If your professor has old exams, review those, if they have model answers, even better. Read a model answer and try to figure out if your professor leans more towards:
1. word dump --> model answer is 15 pages long and basically is somebody's outline tossed into exam format and semi-tailored to be applicable to the fact pattern
or
2. more focused on analysis --> shorter model answer, only a few aspects of the course brought up, but more detailed and tailored response to the actual facts of the hypothetical
For example, my torts professor's exam was a word dump. All the nuances of the cases and subtle differences between jurisdictions, courts, justices, went out the window. All I wrote about were the very simple aspects of torts, but knocked out as many arguments as I could reasonably fit into the facts.
If time is short, some of your largest gains will come from understanding what your professor wants to see on the actual exam. If that information isn't available to you, I would focus on getting the basics down cold (a checklist approach is great for torts).
Now get out there and kick that test's ass
- shepdawg

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!
Skim the outlines a few times and then do practice tests. Skip reading the textbook and supps.
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