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Post by gaud » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:47 pm

shumpshump wrote:Just found this thread! 1 test (torts) down; 2 to go!
Welcome welcome!

Good stuff bro!

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Post by shumpshump » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:47 pm

dietcoke0 wrote:How'd you do?

I hate waiting for grades. I'm so impatient. I missed the days of getting the test back later that week.
Meh, who knows in torts? People after the test started discussing answers. I ran away from that so quickly. What's the point of discussing answers if no one definitively knows what the right answer is? This isn't Math or even Econ.

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Post by Birdnals » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:49 pm

Got a solid second wind today after an innitial burn out after Civ Pro.

Anybody happen to have an attack outline for Property? Specifically Merril/Smith Property: Principles and Policies? I would owe you big.

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Post by shumpshump » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:49 pm

For anyone taking CivPro, the Freer supplement is really readable and updated with all the new rules. I was getting nervous with Glannon because it's old and straight wrong about some rules due to the updates since the book came out so I got Freer and I'm not disappointed at all.

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Post by Raiden » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:56 pm

2 down, 2 more to go. Hit me baby one more time.

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Post by SportsFan » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:04 pm

The closer I get to taking my first final (on Monday), the more I realize how damn arbitrary grades are really going to be. Honestly have no idea what I'll end up with.

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Post by shumpshump » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:11 pm

SportsFan wrote:The closer I get to taking my first final (on Monday), the more I realize how damn arbitrary grades are really going to be. Honestly have no idea what I'll end up with.
+1, everyone in my section is really smart...i have no idea how the prof is going to decide between everyone's answers (he said he doesn't do it based on a checklist, he tries to glean our understanding of the issues based on a lot of factors and then grade based on that)

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Post by LetsGoLAW » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:12 pm

1 hour. 1400 words. I get all the issues, but I get nervous, stop, and think.

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Post by SportsFan » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:15 pm

shumpshump wrote:
SportsFan wrote:The closer I get to taking my first final (on Monday), the more I realize how damn arbitrary grades are really going to be. Honestly have no idea what I'll end up with.
+1, everyone in my section is really smart...i have no idea how the prof is going to decide between everyone's answers (he said he doesn't do it based on a checklist, he tries to glean our understanding of the issues based on a lot of factors and then grade based on that)
All 3 of my professors grade completely differently, which has made exam prep a bit... interesting, since I haven't been able to focus on anything in particular. One uses a checklist (but will give points for good things not on it), one gives points for whatever they read that they like, and the other really cares about our organization, prose, and spelling/grammar. Sigh.

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Post by Raiden » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:29 pm

I wouldn't mind recommending taking a useful CSWS break. The body needs a recharge.

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Post by SportsFan » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:43 pm

Raiden wrote:I wouldn't mind recommending taking a useful CSWS break. The body needs a recharge.
That's what I'm doing tonight. Spent just under 6 hours today doing work, if my maths right. I need a break.

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Post by 005618502 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:49 pm

LetsGoLAW wrote:1 hour. 1400 words. I get all the issues, but I get nervous, stop, and think.
Bro that is totally normal. You WANT to stop and think. dig into those issues. you are going to be okay! is that 1400 with reading and outlining the question? That is about what I am at. Take 10 mins, read and outline and type like hell lol

My torts class says there will be word limits on each question, we wont know the limits till we see the test...booo

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Post by Doorkeeper » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:48 pm

Can anyone recommend me a good supplement for understanding the conceptual issues with damages for contracts? Any of the supplements stand out? I have a good rule chart with when to use the different forms of damages, but I want a fuller understanding of how to calculate them when you have a long hypo with a lot of potential damage calculations...so maybe a book with a hypos and answers?

I only have 2 previous tests, so I want to reserve them for later.

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Post by 005618502 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:45 pm

Hey guys. Question.

When writing your torts exam and it says to define all potential P's or D's or whatever. As headings do you do:

Potential D1
Duty
Breach
Causation
Damages
Defenses
Conclusion

If that is how you split it up would it be better to put defenses before Damages? I know thats not "how it goes" but I feel like it can make more sense. Thoughts?

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Post by Lacepiece23 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:03 am

depends on your prof probably. For mine he didn't teach damages, and also spent minimal time on duty. Our model answer didn't even mention duty unless it was relevant in the fact pattern. Our prof kinds taught duty breached interfused with duty. So I usally just organize the different duty breach standards under headings.

Like this

Reasonable Person
Custom
Defenses
Proximate Cause
Duty (if relevant)

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Post by Benjamin1987 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:06 am

AssumptionRequired wrote:
LetsGoLAW wrote:1 hour. 1400 words. I get all the issues, but I get nervous, stop, and think.
Bro that is totally normal. You WANT to stop and think. dig into those issues. you are going to be okay! is that 1400 with reading and outlining the question? That is about what I am at. Take 10 mins, read and outline and type like hell lol

My torts class says there will be word limits on each question, we wont know the limits till we see the test...booo
Took Torts today. 5800 words in 3 hours. Was practicing at about 1500 words/hr until this last week. Kicked it up to 2000/1800/2000 with adrenaline/focus/practice for the final. Also reading the chapters in the Torts E&E on exam taking was a HUGE help. Highly recommend those.

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Post by LetsGoLAW » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:32 am

Benjamin1987 wrote:
AssumptionRequired wrote:
LetsGoLAW wrote:1 hour. 1400 words. I get all the issues, but I get nervous, stop, and think.
Bro that is totally normal. You WANT to stop and think. dig into those issues. you are going to be okay! is that 1400 with reading and outlining the question? That is about what I am at. Take 10 mins, read and outline and type like hell lol

My torts class says there will be word limits on each question, we wont know the limits till we see the test...booo
Took Torts today. 5800 words in 3 hours. Was practicing at about 1500 words/hr until this last week. Kicked it up to 2000/1800/2000 with adrenaline/focus/practice for the final. Also reading the chapters in the Torts E&E on exam taking was a HUGE help. Highly recommend those.
TICR.

By the way, did you talk about defenses before causation or after you finished causation? I just geared my typing to 1250 words in 40 minutes, so I feel good. Just keep practicing and you will do more and more.

Edit: ~6300 words in 4 hours. Fewf. Boys, just keep practicing. SLAM it HOME.

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Post by SportsFan » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:15 pm

Haven't done much yet today. So planning on spending the rest of the day in the library. At this point the scariest thing to me is I know how abitrary grades will be. Sigh.

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Post by rbomb » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:46 pm

Jsa725 wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Haven't done much yet today. So planning on spending the rest of the day in the library. At this point the scariest thing to me is I know how abitrary grades will be. Sigh.
what do you mean when you say arbitrary?

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Post by gaud » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:59 pm

rbomb wrote:
Jsa725 wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Haven't done much yet today. So planning on spending the rest of the day in the library. At this point the scariest thing to me is I know how abitrary grades will be. Sigh.
what do you mean when you say arbitrary?

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Post by Jsa725 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:59 pm

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