Dear fellow 1Ls Forum

[JCFindley]

Unless you are doing Jillian's voice-over on Family Guy or are a participant on Jeopardy please, for the love of ALL things holy, STOP answering questions in class with like a Valley Girl that who has has a questioning inflection even when making a statement.

Seriously, I don't care if your answer is brilliant or is idiotic, state it with CONFIDENCE! You are not a freshman in UG and your tone of voice and inflection are what instill confidence in what you are saying. Stand behind what you are saying, PLEASE!

(and now I am off to work on my short memo so my ranting is over.)

[Davidbentley]

What if you are a valley girl?

[JCFindley]

What if you are a valley girl?

ONLY if your Name is Ellie.

[Tom Joad]

I will talk with whatever inflection I want for $50,000 a year.

[EvilClinton]

You really shouldn't be confident of anything as a 1L.

I know that doesn't need to affect your tone of voice but you need to give you classmates some slack.

[JCFindley]

You really shouldn't be confident of anything as a 1L.

I know that doesn't need to affect your tone of voice but you need to give you classmates some slack.

Ah, slack, something that anyone facing an uncertain job market can ill afford. Confidence also applies to interview skills and virtually anything else in life. I don't care if you think mens rea is a giant flightless bird, at least state such an opinion with authority.

Frankly, as a 1L you certainly can't be confident that you know anything at all but you had better at least be confident in yourself!

[JCFindley]

I will talk with whatever inflection I want for $50,000 a year.

[Bildungsroman]

Calling out identifiable classmates from a laughably non-anonymous account usually works out well and makes you popular.

[indigomachine]

Calling out identifiable classmates from a laughably non-anonymous account usually works out well and makes you popular.

I lol'd. (or at least snickered... sol'd doesn't sound quite as good...)

[rad lulz]

Unless you are doing Jillian's voice-over on Family Guy or are a participant on Jeopardy please, for the love of ALL things holy, STOP answering questions in class with like a Valley Girl that who has has a questioning inflection even when making a statement.

Seriously, I don't care if your answer is brilliant or is idiotic, state it with CONFIDENCE! You are not a freshman in UG and your tone of voice and inflection are what instill confidence in what you are saying. Stand behind what you are saying, PLEASE!

(and now I am off to work on my short memo so my ranting is over.)

[JCFindley]

You are the master at making friends and influencing people on here Bilds, I bow to your mastery.

You could view it as calling people out, or you could read between the douchebaggery tone and see that this is actually the very best advice that I could possibly give. Does it really matter in class? Nope. Will it matter a LOT in an interview; yes, yes it will.

[rad lulz]

You are the master at making friends and influencing people on here Bilds, I bow to your mastery.

You could view it as calling people out, or you could read between the douchebaggery tone and see that this is actually the very best advice that I could possibly give. Does it really matter in class? Nope. Will it matter a LOT in an interview; yes, yes it will.

It's 7:52 AM central and I have already read the stupidest shit I'll read all day.

[northwood]

You're an idiot. The profs don't care about participation and maybe the person isn't completely confident in their answer. The tone of voice may tell the prof that the class doesn't fully grasp te concept and it needs to be reviewed. But it means nothing in regards to ur final exam grade.

[beachbum]

You are the master at making friends and influencing people on here Bilds, I bow to your mastery.

You could view it as calling people out, or you could read between the douchebaggery tone and see that this is actually the very best advice that I could possibly give. Does it really matter in class? Nope. Will it matter a LOT in an interview; yes, yes it will.

It's 7:52 AM central and I have already read the stupidest shit I'll read all day.

There's a lot of day left, bro, and this thread is just getting started.

[rad lulz]

You are the master at making friends and influencing people on here Bilds, I bow to your mastery.

You could view it as calling people out, or you could read between the douchebaggery tone and see that this is actually the very best advice that I could possibly give. Does it really matter in class? Nope. Will it matter a LOT in an interview; yes, yes it will.

It's 7:52 AM central and I have already read the stupidest shit I'll read all day.

There's a lot of day left, bro, and this thread is just getting started.

That's true. JCFindley may yet return and grace us with his comprehensive interview strategy.

[northwood]

This will keep me entertained for the day.... Wonder when op will critique the Socratic method implemented by the prof.... Man Ihow I strongly dislike a vast majority of law students....

[td6624]

well this guy sounds like a douche, huh

[howell]

JC isn't alone in his hatred of upspeak. I have met others that have a big problem with it, and a quick Google search reveals criticism of the practice. It's never bothered me, at least in a classroom context. It can convey a lot of things (rightly or wrongly) to the listener (lack of confidence, fishing for assurance, etc.).

I rarely notice it, and if I ever do, I just ignore it. If it's just a habit of the speaker, it's no problem. If the speaker is actually looking for assurance in what he's saying or is trying to ask a question without actually asking the question, ignoring it is the best way to troll the speaker. Make them say what they mean.

There are situations where it really shouldn't be used, and most people turn it off in those situations. "Judge, this is the case that proves my client is not guilty???" wouldn't be the best delivery, but I think nearly everyone who uses upspeak would know this.

If I had to guess, based on the people I've heard complain about it, those that are bothered by it are usually "older" (well out of college). It's worth noting if you do it in case you need to cut it off in the presence of olds that you don't need to annoy. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just that JC isn't alone in this.

[kwais]

JC isn't alone in his hatred of upspeak. I have met others that have a big problem with it, and a quick Google search reveals criticism of the practice. It's never bothered me, at least in a classroom context. It can convey a lot of things (rightly or wrongly) to the listener (lack of confidence, fishing for assurance, etc.).

I rarely notice it, and if I ever do, I just ignore it. If it's just a habit of the speaker, it's no problem. If the speaker is actually looking for assurance in what he's saying or is trying to ask a question without actually asking the question, ignoring it is the best way to troll the speaker. Make them say what they mean.

There are situations where it really shouldn't be used, and most people turn it off in those situations. "Judge, this is the case that proves my client is not guilty???" wouldn't be the best delivery, but I think nearly everyone who uses upspeak would know this.

If I had to guess, based on the people I've heard complain about it, those that are bothered by it are usually "older" (well out of college). It's worth noting if you do it in case you need to cut it off in the presence of olds that you don't need to annoy. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just that JC isn't alone in this.

I think perhaps the issues are 1) tying the upspeak issue to his vast 1L knowledge of interviewing and 2) assuming that a 1L, who rightfully is unsure about an answer in class, is equally unsure about the study abroad semester on her resume

[Gorki]

Idk man. I think the adage "The wise know that they know nothing" did not hit home for me until I went to LS and got my ass kicked by the curve in a few classes.

[dingbat]

I think perhaps the issues are 1) tying the upspeak issue to his vast 1L knowledge of interviewing and 2) assuming that a 1L, who rightfully is unsure about an answer in class, is equally unsure about the study abroad semester on her resume

Actually, JC has more experience interviewing than almost anyone else on this board

If I had to guess, based on the people I've heard complain about it, those that are bothered by it are usually "older" (well out of college).

That too is true of him

[LS-boundNYC]

In JC's defense, my Civ Pro prof (who also happens to be the dean of the school) similarly calls out anyone who has a rising inflection at the end of their statement/question. It does have the tendency to get annoying, although no one has done the valley girl thing yet...

[Davidbentley]

Typical east coast elitism.

[JusticeHarlan]

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[Stanford4Me]

Shut up.