General TLS advice is to read cases to extract the rules or 'black-letter-law'.
My 1L professor says that the 'rule' is law that already exists and the 'holding' is the 'new rule that emerges as a result of the court's analysis' (quoted from professor).
When he gives us a 'holding' in class, it sounds like a specific application of the existing 'rule' to the unique facts at play in the facts of the case.
Which one of these aspects is the significant 'black-letter-law' that I should be extracting from these cases? Is it the existing general 'rule' or is it the very-specific 'holding'?
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ZombiesAhead

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Re: Rule or Holding? Which one is Important BLL?
DCDuck wrote:Both.
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ZombiesAhead

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Re: Rule or Holding? Which one is Important BLL?
So a professor who defines 'holding' as 'new rule that emerges as a result of the court's analysis' is really trying to make his own concise statement of what this court's opinion illuminates/clarifies/defines about this existing rule for future situations?
He's giving us the important stuff that emerges from the analysis and final decision?
This is obviously important stuff. It's just not the way most online advice defines the word 'holding'.
He's giving us the important stuff that emerges from the analysis and final decision?
This is obviously important stuff. It's just not the way most online advice defines the word 'holding'.
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Re: Rule or Holding? Which one is Important BLL?
Both are important.
The rule is something general that can be applied to a broad range of facts.
Meanwhile, the holding is something more specific that you can analogize to a specific set of facts.
For instance, in contracts, you might read a case about the mailbox rule. The mailbox rule is (generally speaking) that acceptance occurs as soon as the acceptance letter is mailed. When you read a case on it, however, it will state the general mailbox rule as "the rule," but there will also likely be an additional wrinkle to it to solve the issue presented by the case. The case will say something like, "This court holds that the mailbox rule applies when blah blah blah."
So on an exam, if you see a mailbox rule issue, you would apply that rule to the facts. To further boost that argument, you might analogize it to the facts/holding of a case you read.
The rule is something general that can be applied to a broad range of facts.
Meanwhile, the holding is something more specific that you can analogize to a specific set of facts.
For instance, in contracts, you might read a case about the mailbox rule. The mailbox rule is (generally speaking) that acceptance occurs as soon as the acceptance letter is mailed. When you read a case on it, however, it will state the general mailbox rule as "the rule," but there will also likely be an additional wrinkle to it to solve the issue presented by the case. The case will say something like, "This court holds that the mailbox rule applies when blah blah blah."
So on an exam, if you see a mailbox rule issue, you would apply that rule to the facts. To further boost that argument, you might analogize it to the facts/holding of a case you read.
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Re: Rule or Holding? Which one is Important BLL?
The professor is not really trying to make his own statement about anything, unless maybe he is choosing to interpret the holding in a controversial way. But don't worry about that for now.ZombiesAhead wrote:So a professor who defines 'holding' as 'new rule that emerges as a result of the court's analysis' is really trying to make his own concise statement of what this court's opinion illuminates/clarifies/defines about this existing rule for future situations?
He's giving us the important stuff that emerges from the analysis and final decision?
This is obviously important stuff. It's just not the way most online advice defines the word 'holding'.
The "rule" should be thought of like this: in every case there is some cause of action, or legal "rule" that the case (whether civil or criminal) is based on. So take, for example, contract law. By now most 1L's know that for a contract to be enforceable there must be an offer, acceptance, and consideration. For consideration in particular, one specific "rule" is that the consideration must be real; not merely nominal.
A specific case might interpret this rule. One party might contend that their $1 paid represents real consideration in support of the contract. The opposing party might disagree, and say that $1 isn't real at all; that it's only nominal and the contract should not be enforced. The court will consider this situation, and then "hold" whether $1 is real consideration or not.
The basic rule is that consideration must be real, not just nominal. But what does that mean exactly? At what point does the consideration not count as "real"? The holding is the court struggling with this question, and coming up with a specific decision based on the general law as applied to the pertinent facts.
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Re: Rule or Holding? Which one is Important BLL?
My civ pro professor had a fitting metaphor - the Law is an Elephant. Judges are blind people feeling the elephant in the dark. A case's holding is the judge's explanation of the small portion of the law they are feeling in the dark that may have never been seen before.
So, yeah, both are important, but a "holding" is just a fact specific application of the "rule." Or in other words, the "rule" is the Elephant, and the "holding" is the judge's description of a specific part of the elephant.
So, yeah, both are important, but a "holding" is just a fact specific application of the "rule." Or in other words, the "rule" is the Elephant, and the "holding" is the judge's description of a specific part of the elephant.