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Post by superhands » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:47 am

Does anyone else think that its hot when Wentworth Miller makes the motor boat noise on the LEEWS tapes?

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Post by superhands » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:54 am

Yeah. . . neither do I.

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Post by tyro » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:55 am

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Post by kalvano » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:04 am

That's pretty leewd.

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Post by nStiver » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:22 am

HAHAHAHAH god that cracked me up. BBRRRRRRRRRPPPHHH!!!!! Put it in the blender!!!

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Re: LEEWS

Post by temperance » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:20 am

am i the only one that didn't find the LEEWS preliminary overview/general method of issue spotting that helpful? I just didn't feel like my exams really lent themselves to that methodology-especially the never really reading the fact pattern diligently. I don't know, it seemed crazy even when i was listening to him, and it was impossible when i got to exams/practice exams. granted, i don't have my grades back yet. but i was curious...

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Post by nStiver » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:21 am

temperance wrote:am i the only one that didn't find the LEEWS preliminary overview/general method of issue spotting that helpful? I just didn't feel like my exams really lent themselves to that methodology-especially the never really reading the fact pattern diligently. I don't know, it seemed crazy even when i was listening to him, and it was impossible when i got to exams/practice exams. granted, i don't have my grades back yet. but i was curious...

I think if you really practiced the tar out of it the preliminary method would work. I think there is a lot of helpful advice in LEEWS, and some really successful people on TLS relied heavily on LEEWS and ended up near the top of their class. My problem with LEEWS is that Wentworth speaks in extremes and absolutes. ALWAYS use the "blender". NEVER read the exam all the way through. And my personal favorite, "NEVER take an entire practice exam, it is "too boring". He could condense his audio program down to about an hour and lose the snarky attitude, and he would be much more successful.

I just don't like Wentworth's "MY WAY IS THE BEST WAY TO TAKE LAW EXAMS" and "DO NOT DEVIATE FROM MY RIGID FORMULA" attitude. For what its worth, I think the whole part about never reading the fact pattern diligently weird. The general idea that he is trying to convey, I think, is that one should focus on those sections of the exam that are relevant to the question asked, and address those sections in an orderly and methodical way. However, never reading the exam in its entirety seems risky. I read all of my exams through at least once, usually twice, before I started writing. I also didn't use the preliminary method. I didn't use his outline method either. But, that is probably because I didn't practice with it. This semester I am going to give his outline method another shot, but I will incorporate other strategies to fit the various types of exams.

He could make an excellent product if he would just allow for more flexibility in his system, and acknowledge that rigid adherance to one methodology is not the best way to approach a law school exam.

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Re: LEEWS

Post by temperance » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:45 am

nStiver wrote:
I think if you really practiced the tar out of it the preliminary method would work. I think there is a lot of helpful advice in LEEWS, and some really successful people on TLS relied heavily on LEEWS and ended up near the top of their class. My problem with LEEWS is that Wentworth speaks in extremes and absolutes. ALWAYS use the "blender". NEVER read the exam all the way through. And my personal favorite, "NEVER take an entire practice exam, it is "too boring". He could condense his audio program down to about an hour and lose the snarky attitude, and he would be much more successful.

I just don't like Wentworth's "MY WAY IS THE BEST WAY TO TAKE LAW EXAMS" and "DO NOT DEVIATE FROM MY RIGID FORMULA" attitude. For what its worth, I think the whole part about never reading the fact pattern diligently weird. The general idea that he is trying to convey, I think, is that one should focus on those sections of the exam that are relevant to the question asked, and address those sections in an orderly and methodical way. However, never reading the exam in its entirety seems risky. I read all of my exams through at least once, usually twice, before I started writing. I also didn't use the preliminary method. I didn't use his outline method either. But, that is probably because I didn't practice with it. This semester I am going to give his outline method another shot, but I will incorporate other strategies to fit the various types of exams.

He could make an excellent product if he would just allow for more flexibility in his system, and acknowledge that rigid adherance to one methodology is not the best way to approach a law school exam.
I think that's a good summary of the issue(s) I saw with it as well. I also didn't practice with the outline method and am contemplating giving that more of a try this semester. Best of luck to you!

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