What is the game plan of non T-14 students? Forum

[Addy]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

[Kabuo]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

Book classes. Barring that, network like crazy and/or median cruise while mitigating at the casino.

[Grizz]

Well I'm at VanderbilTTT so my plan is to preemptively apply for food stamps and start picking out a nice cardboard box.

[IrwinM.Fletcher]

Jobs won't be so important once the zombie apocalypse hits.

Stocking up on chef boyardee and groupon cross bow lessons.

[Danteshek]

Not looking at Legal jobs anymore really. I've switched my focus to asset management compliance. I worked in the industry before law school.

[MrPapagiorgio]

Top 1% and biglaw or /self. Only options.

[c3pO4]

Lol. Gameplan is to laugh all the way to the bank. Plenty of us non-T14 students have great boutique, V100, or gov jobs lined up. Sorry you T-14'ers thought you had a ticket to biglaw... turns out there are no guarantees. But if thinking about all the non-T14 students on food stamps or killing self makes you feel better, go for it.

[dreakol]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

[shock259]

Debt-free, so I don't need biglaw. Just something. Catering LS experience to JAG. If that fails, I'm at the top school in a secondary market, so with enough legwork, I'll find something. Eventually. I have enough savings to last a while on my own. If all else fails, I'll move back with my mom until I can get something.

[dailygrind]

Jobs won't be so important once the zombie apocalypse hits.

Stocking up on chef boyardee and groupon cross bow lessons.

I'm looking for a few witty sidekicks. It changes it from a horror to a comedy sequence, which greatly increases my chances of survival.

[joeshmo39]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

Dood who doesn't understand that's not really true. Everyone sees you as a flight risk. Also, it seems like a bad investment to get a 200k degree then go into a field where that degree isn't required or as valued as the actual practice of law.

[JamMasterJ]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

facepalm

[top30man]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

Dood who doesn't understand that's not really true. Everyone sees you as a flight risk. Also, it seems like a bad investment to get a 200k degree then go into a field where that degree isn't required or as valued as the actual practice of law.

This. It might have been true a couple decades ago, but a JD isnt the key to industry it used to be.

[JamMasterJ]

Jobs won't be so important once the zombie apocalypse hits.

Stocking up on chef boyardee and groupon cross bow lessons.

I'm looking for a few witty sidekicks. It changes it from a horror to a comedy sequence, which greatly increases my chances of survival.

Zombieland fucking rules

[Kabuo]

Holy surprisingly successful trolling, dreakol.

[Extension_Cord]

The way I see it, I will graduate without any debt so I probably wont be in a worse position then if I didn't decide to go to law school. I was conscious of the crappy job market long before I decided to go to law school and prepared accordingly. I wasn't going to pay 40k a year + living expenses to go to a T25 school, in my opinion it wasnt worth it.

[dreakol]

Holy surprisingly successful trolling, dreakol.

[dreakol]

I assume that nearly everyone on TLS understands the T-14 represents the Crème de la Crème of law schools. Nevertheless, there are reports that T-14 students (without stellar grades) are concerned about securing good legal jobs.

So if T-14 are students concerned about their job prospects, what in the world are students outside the T-14 thinking? They must see the stories that many experienced lawyers are out of work or doing low wage doc review.

It is understandable that three years ago students who entered a non T-14 school thought that by 2012 the economy would rebound. However, it is difficult to believe that today’s student holds a “by 2015 all will be well” sentiment.

There are many great law schools outside the T-14, but when “many” is deciphered into hundreds of law schools, why are there thousands of students hoping to enroll? This note is not meant to raise issues of oversaturation, or high tuitions, but simply to ask, if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

(dood who doesn't understand that a law degree is versatile and will open up plenty of doors outside of the legal market)

facepalm

facepalm

[SwampRat88]

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[leacha5]

Get median grades and be fine because my s/o is a MD.

+1

[Kendi]

I am not sure if passing up the T-14 will turn out to be a misstep, or not. One problem with the T-14 is that they are mostly located in the dreary north where the COL is extreme. Let me add that there are major city Universities respected by their community, in spite of being Tier 1/2.

[071816]

if you are a student attending or hoping to enroll in a non T-14 school, what is your game plan?

[Addy]

1L at MVP. Stressing because of the exams (and the dreaded curve). . . given the economy I am not alone. The fact that I am at a T-14, with a generous scholarship, takes a bit of the edge off. If I were here at sticker, or somewhere other than T-14, the needle would peg bright red on the stress meter.

[DocHawkeye]

I plan to work in a market that nobody in the T-14 remembers is out there where the pay is low but the cost of living is even lower. FTW.

[Grizz]

1L at MVP. Stressing because of the exams (and the dreaded curve). . . given the economy I am not alone. The fact that I am at a T-14, with a generous scholarship, takes a bit of the edge off. If I were here at sticker, or somewhere other than T-14, the needle would peg bright red on the stress meter.

LOL lots of T14 people strike out, especially the type who exhibit the assburgers to make threads like this. U mad?