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- ubermensch
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Style Question
Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
- lolschool2011
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Re: Style Question
If you must go white every day, get a variety of patterns/textures at least.... lest you look like you wear the same shirt every day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
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Re: Style Question
It's not that odd, but this is good advice. Don't wear identical shirts every day, even if they're all the same color.lolschool2011 wrote:If you must go white every day, get a variety of patterns/textures at least.... lest you look like you wear the same shirt every day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
- BarbellDreams
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Re: Style Question
From what I heard white and light blue shirts are always considered work clothes. As long as you vary ties you should be fine. I have a bunch of red and dark green shirts I really like but I wouldn't wear them to work in the summer unless I saw others doing them same.
- Ty Webb
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Re: Style Question
Don't listen to your friend. He suffers from an unfortunate lack of classical style.
Colored dress shirts and the shitty ties that compliment them should be put down like a sickly hamster.
Colored dress shirts and the shitty ties that compliment them should be put down like a sickly hamster.
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- Ty Webb
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Re: Style Question
Would you rather be this guy:

Or this guy:


Or this guy:

- savagedm
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Re: Style Question
While it does look good, you gotta understand at some point you WILL be taking your jacket off inside because it is either a) too warm, b) you're moving around too much, or c) you dont want to wrinkle the back by sitting in it all day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
That being said, ask yourself this: is it ok to wear a black t-shirt and only a black t-shirt all day? What would you think if you saw someone who wore the same exact t-shirt? What do you think others would think? Does this match how you want them to see you? How can you make what you want to wear match how you want them to see you? If you must wear a white t-shirt, make sure you vary the cut, patterns, cuff-link options (a great man once said "if at all possible, cuff-links are never optional"), etc.
- Dr. Van Nostrand
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Re: Style Question
White, Light Blue, and the occasional French Blue - slim fit from Brooks Brothers ... that settles that debate.
- lolschool2011
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Re: Style Question
Simon Cowell has this sort of approach to style and he is a grand douche. Do not dress like him. Mix it up.savagedm wrote:While it does look good, you gotta understand at some point you WILL be taking your jacket off inside because it is either a) too warm, b) you're moving around too much, or c) you dont want to wrinkle the back by sitting in it all day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
That being said, ask yourself this: is it ok to wear a black t-shirt and only a black t-shirt all day? What would you think if you saw someone who wore the same exact t-shirt? What do you think others would think? Does this match how you want them to see you? How can you make what you want to wear match how you want them to see you? If you must wear a white t-shirt, make sure you vary the cut, patterns, cuff-link options (a great man once said "if at all possible, cuff-links are never optional"), etc.
- Dr. Van Nostrand
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Re: Style Question
Listen, I am all for mixing it up - however in the professional setting this should be done more through the tie, not the shirt. If the OP wants to wear white everyday, I think that is perfectly acceptable in the law firm. You do not see many partners rocking teal green Express shirts. You want to add subtle stripes? Sure. But if different means exotic colors, absolutely not. Allow your tie to be a personal statement, not the entire shirt.lolschool2011 wrote:Simon Cowell has this sort of approach to style and he is a grand douche. Do not dress like him. Mix it up.savagedm wrote:While it does look good, you gotta understand at some point you WILL be taking your jacket off inside because it is either a) too warm, b) you're moving around too much, or c) you dont want to wrinkle the back by sitting in it all day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
That being said, ask yourself this: is it ok to wear a black t-shirt and only a black t-shirt all day? What would you think if you saw someone who wore the same exact t-shirt? What do you think others would think? Does this match how you want them to see you? How can you make what you want to wear match how you want them to see you? If you must wear a white t-shirt, make sure you vary the cut, patterns, cuff-link options (a great man once said "if at all possible, cuff-links are never optional"), etc.
Further, cuff links get pretty dangerous. You aren't a partner yet, and in my opinion run the risk as coming off as arrogant. I would personally save the cuff links for when you are partner IMHO.
- savagedm
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lolschool2011 wrote:Simon Cowell has this sort of approach to style and he is a grand douche. Do not dress like him. Mix it up.savagedm wrote:While it does look good, you gotta understand at some point you WILL be taking your jacket off inside because it is either a) too warm, b) you're moving around too much, or c) you dont want to wrinkle the back by sitting in it all day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
That being said, ask yourself this: is it ok to wear a black t-shirt and only a black t-shirt all day? What would you think if you saw someone who wore the same exact t-shirt? What do you think others would think? Does this match how you want them to see you? How can you make what you want to wear match how you want them to see you? If you must wear a white t-shirt, make sure you vary the cut, patterns, cuff-link options (a great man once said "if at all possible, cuff-links are never optional"), etc.
Lol truth, I am all for the mix-up approach. I was actually thinking of greasers, but Simon is a much better example.
- savagedm
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Also, a tie should COMPLIMENT a suit, not be the focal point.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Listen, I am all for mixing it up - however in the professional setting this should be done more through the tie, not the shirt. If the OP wants to wear white everyday, I think that is perfectly acceptable in the law firm. You do not see many partners rocking teal green Express shirts. You want to add subtle stripes? Sure. But if different means exotic colors, absolutely not. Allow your tie to be a personal statement, not the entire shirt.lolschool2011 wrote:Simon Cowell has this sort of approach to style and he is a grand douche. Do not dress like him. Mix it up.savagedm wrote:While it does look good, you gotta understand at some point you WILL be taking your jacket off inside because it is either a) too warm, b) you're moving around too much, or c) you dont want to wrinkle the back by sitting in it all day.ubermensch wrote:Is it odd to only wear white shirts under suits? I don't think anything looks as crisp and professional as plain white and would prefer to wear them 5 days a week at my summer gig, but my roommate insists that I need a variety of colors.
FWIW, I will be rotating 4-5 suits which will be navy, navy-ps, charcoal, charcoal-ps, and perhaps another.
That being said, ask yourself this: is it ok to wear a black t-shirt and only a black t-shirt all day? What would you think if you saw someone who wore the same exact t-shirt? What do you think others would think? Does this match how you want them to see you? How can you make what you want to wear match how you want them to see you? If you must wear a white t-shirt, make sure you vary the cut, patterns, cuff-link options (a great man once said "if at all possible, cuff-links are never optional"), etc.
Further, cuff links get pretty dangerous. You aren't a partner yet, and in my opinion run the risk as coming off as arrogant. I would personally save the cuff links for when you are partner IMHO.
- Dr. Van Nostrand
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Re: Style Question
^^^
Agreed. But you can add more style and pattern through the tie more subtly if that is what you are gunning for.
Agreed. But you can add more style and pattern through the tie more subtly if that is what you are gunning for.
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- A'nold
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Re: Style Question
This guy knows what he is talking about.Ty Webb wrote:Don't listen to your friend. He suffers from an unfortunate lack of classical style.
Colored dress shirts and the shitty ties that compliment them should be put down like a sickly hamster.
- 20160810
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Re: Style Question
White and blue are OK. Rotate through those as you see fit. Others... not so much.
- Dr. Van Nostrand
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Re: Style Question
Yup, agreed. Get ones that fit well too, it will vastly improve your look over wearing crazy colors as your roommate seems to suggest.SBL wrote:White and blue are OK. Rotate through those as you see fit. Others... not so much.
- savagedm
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Re: Style Question
Depends on the situation, colored dress shirts are for going to clubs or if you're at work, your nice clothes are dirty, and you wont be dealing with people who give you money. Otherwise, send mixed signals: show serious style without being gaudy. I.E. a nice fitted shirt with a super quality tie that isnt 1023821093812039128 different colors.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yup, agreed. Get ones that fit well too, it will vastly improve your look over wearing crazy colors as your roommate seems to suggest.SBL wrote:White and blue are OK. Rotate through those as you see fit. Others... not so much.
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- Vronsky
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Re: Style Question
neither.... double-breasted with an obnoxiously folded pocket square? or a euro-looking man of the night?Ty Webb wrote:Would you rather be this guy:
Or this guy:
furthermore the "douche" pic wouldn't be as bad if it weren't for the black tie and the unbuttoned collar. the redshirt by itself isn't terrible.... but for some reason any sort of BOLD, primary color dress shirt, including a heavy, dark blue color, comes off to me as working class or jersey shore. could be OK at night but not for work.
keep it classy with white, light blue, light pink, etc.
to answer the OP, there's nothing wrong with white every day. See, e.g., Don Draper. Get your secretary to buy you a whole stack and you can keep them in your office drawer for when you booze out, sleep with a random, and never make it home at night.
- Dr. Van Nostrand
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Re: Style Question
Yeah the double breasted does look ridiculous.
- 20160810
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Re: Style Question
Correct. Also that gold tie looks like it was made from the remains of a dentists' office sofa, and pocket squares are retarded.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yeah the double breasted does look ridiculous.
The best ties are relatively subtle, probably regimental-striped, and some version of red, blue or yellow (which latter should only be worn over a blue dress shirt). When in doubt, Brooks Brothers. I've also found that Tommy Hilfiger, despite not being even close to one of my favorite designers, makes good silk ties.
And +1 to whomever says fit is the most important thing. If your dress shirts feel like you're wearing a big starched cotton bag, ur doin it rong. Similarly, do not by a suit off the rack. Get it tailored. Every single time.
- BunkMoreland
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Re: Style Question
SBL wrote:Correct. Also that gold tie looks like it was made from the remains of a dentists' office sofa, and pocket squares are retarded.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yeah the double breasted does look ridiculous.
The best ties are relatively subtle, probably regimental-striped, and some version of red, blue or yellow (which latter should only be worn over a blue dress shirt). When in doubt, Brooks Brothers. I've also found that Tommy Hilfiger, despite not being even close to one of my favorite designers, makes good silk ties.
And +1 to whomever says fit is the most important thing. If your dress shirts feel like you're wearing a big starched cotton bag, ur doin it rong. Similarly, do not by a suit off the rack. Get it tailored. Every single time.
-1000 at pocket squares being retarded. I've worn a white TV fold PS forever and only receive positive compliments on it
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- Vronsky
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Not all pocket squares are retarded, but notice that the picture shows not a pocket square but a 'pocket bouquet.' it's garish, consistent with the double-breasted jacket. but a true pocket square - that is not folded in such an obnoxious 4 point design - can look really nice. but not when pains are made to match the PS to the tie.... saw a dude at my school wearing a nice looking suit but had a TEAL tie and matching square.... yuck. white is on the only way to go.BunkMoreland wrote:SBL wrote:Correct. Also that gold tie looks like it was made from the remains of a dentists' office sofa, and pocket squares are retarded.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yeah the double breasted does look ridiculous.
The best ties are relatively subtle, probably regimental-striped, and some version of red, blue or yellow (which latter should only be worn over a blue dress shirt). When in doubt, Brooks Brothers. I've also found that Tommy Hilfiger, despite not being even close to one of my favorite designers, makes good silk ties.
And +1 to whomever says fit is the most important thing. If your dress shirts feel like you're wearing a big starched cotton bag, ur doin it rong. Similarly, do not by a suit off the rack. Get it tailored. Every single time.
-1000 at pocket squares being retarded. I've worn a white TV fold PS forever and only receive positive compliments on it
again, when in doubt, do whatever don draper would do.
- savagedm
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Re: Style Question
Agreed, we have some people like that here too.... Oh well, let them look like the loudest one in the room (check out American Gangster if you want to understand this reference).Vronsky wrote:Not all pocket squares are retarded, but notice that the picture shows not a pocket square but a 'pocket bouquet.' it's garish, consistent with the double-breasted jacket. but a true pocket square - that is not folded in such an obnoxious 4 point design - can look really nice. but not when pains are made to match the PS to the tie.... saw a dude at my school wearing a nice looking suit but had a TEAL tie and matching square.... yuck. white is on the only way to go.BunkMoreland wrote:SBL wrote:Correct. Also that gold tie looks like it was made from the remains of a dentists' office sofa, and pocket squares are retarded.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yeah the double breasted does look ridiculous.
The best ties are relatively subtle, probably regimental-striped, and some version of red, blue or yellow (which latter should only be worn over a blue dress shirt). When in doubt, Brooks Brothers. I've also found that Tommy Hilfiger, despite not being even close to one of my favorite designers, makes good silk ties.
And +1 to whomever says fit is the most important thing. If your dress shirts feel like you're wearing a big starched cotton bag, ur doin it rong. Similarly, do not by a suit off the rack. Get it tailored. Every single time.
-1000 at pocket squares being retarded. I've worn a white TV fold PS forever and only receive positive compliments on it
again, when in doubt, do whatever don draper would do.
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Re: Style Question
how do we feel about the following for work shirts (not interview):
(a) tasteful, muted colors (pastel green, lavender, soft pink, cream, pastel yellow)?
(b) tasteful patterns (stripes, windowpane) in white and blue?
is it mostly just an issue of office culture?
(a) tasteful, muted colors (pastel green, lavender, soft pink, cream, pastel yellow)?
(b) tasteful patterns (stripes, windowpane) in white and blue?
is it mostly just an issue of office culture?
- savagedm
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Re: Style Question
Depends on your daily duties and the time of year I guess.smittytron3k wrote:how do we feel about the following for work shirts (not interview):
(a) tasteful, muted colors (pastel green, lavender, soft pink, cream, pastel yellow)?
(b) tasteful patterns (stripes, windowpane) in white and blue?
is it mostly just an issue of office culture?
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