poll: judicial "extern" or "intern" & "honorable" on resume Forum

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[MrKappus]

Massive self-call FTW.

[jayn3]

What to put on resume? Google and friends give mixed results. I was under the impression "extern" meant working for a judge during the school year, while "intern" refers to the summer. And is it "Judicial Ex/Intern to the Honorable Judge Richard A. Posner" or "Judicial Ex/Intern to the Honorable Richard A. Posner"?

Not that there's a huge distinction or big deal one way or another. Just curious to see what TLS says.

i'd ask career services, at least to clear up the intern/extern distinction.

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[jayn3]

GW CDO gave me what I thought was a real goofy answer on extern v. intern - apparently it's an East Coast v. West Coast thing. I looked at UCLA and Berzerkely's CDO websites and sample resumes versus Harvard or Columbia...UCLA & Berk. use extern, but so does Columbia. Harvard uses intern.

did you seriously just say berzerkely? did you do that to match your tar's glasses??

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[MrKappus]

Main Entry: 3in·tern
Variant(s): also in·terne \ˈin-ˌtərn\
Function: noun
Etymology: French interne, from interne, adjective
Date: circa 1879
: an advanced student or graduate usually in a professional field (as medicine or teaching) gaining supervised practical experience (as in a hospital or classroom)
— in·tern·ship \-ˌship\ noun

Numerous places use "judicial intern" as a title...typically referring to one still in law school who works for a judge for the summer.

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[MrKappus]

Let me break it down for you so you understand, I'll hold your hand like a small child: if you worked for him while you were in classes...extern. If you worked for him while you were didn't have classes...intern.

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[ggocat]

I would drop "judicial" and stick with "Honorable" or "Hon." and [Name]. No "Honorable Judge [Name]."

Edit: And use "intern." I think more people will know what you mean compared to if you use "extern."

[megaTTTron]

Ya know, I could ask my clerks and report back. I assumed extern, since that is what we are referred to by the judge and the clerks, but I'll ask.

Midwest federal district court, the whole district (15+ judges) calls their 1L/2L interns, interns. No one used extern, even tho I used that in my cover letter. I think it depends on the judge.

[MrKappus]

Midwest federal district court, the whole district (15+ judges) calls their 1L/2L interns, interns. No one used extern, even tho I used that in my cover letter. I think it depends on the judge.

TCR. Extern = one resides in a place of professional service, but is not officially affiliated w/ that institution (e.g., an unaffiliated MD).

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It is just a regional difference. To most readers it will mean exactly the same thing.

[NewHere]

At my school (East Coast, in case it matters) "extern" means it's tied to a class: you work for a judge for, e.g., two days per week and attend a few hours of seminar with the other judicial externs at the school once a week. "Intern" is not tied to classwork in that way. And so all summer jobs for a judge, or DA's office, etc., are internships.

[megaTTTron]

At my school (East Coast, in case it matters) "extern" means it's tied to a class: you work for a judge for, e.g., two days per week and attend a few hours of seminar with the other judicial externs at the school once a week. "Intern" is not tied to classwork in that way. And so all summer jobs for a judge, or DA's office, etc., are internships.

+1. That's what W&L calls students who work for judges during the year for credit.

[DelDad]

Go with whatever your judge calls you, so that the terminology on your resume matches what the judge writes in your letter/reference.

And dropping the "Judge" is correct: "The Honorable Richard A. Posner"