Taking Trusts and Estates before taking Property = . . . Forum

[Pablo Ramirez]

putting the cart before the horse?

I go to a school where I can take T&E without first taking property. Is Prop essentially a pre-req for T&E or can I get away with not taking it?

[transfer4545]

Is property not a required 1L course at your school?

[Pablo Ramirez]

Is property not a required 1L course at your school?

We're not required to take Property . . . ever.

[transfer4545]

Wow, I thought it was a required course everywhere. Anyway, my 1L Property class was more of a survey course and the future interests/trusts/estates topics comprised about 2 weeks of the class. You might have to play a little catch-up in the first few weeks to establish a solid foundation/learn the vocabulary that you would have been introduced to in Property but you should be fine.

[Danneskjöld]

Is property not a required 1L course at your school?

We're not required to take Property . . . ever.

The answer to your question is: it doesn't matter. T&E isn't really related to property concepts. But, WTF law school doesn't require property? Non-ABA?

[Pablo Ramirez]

Is property not a required 1L course at your school?

We're not required to take Property . . . ever.

The answer to your question is: it doesn't matter. T&E isn't really related to property concepts. But, WTF law school doesn't require property? Non-ABA?

Pretty much the opposite, actually.

[notanumber]

Yale doesn't require property.

[zanda]

Yale doesn't require property.

TTT

[NewHere]

I'm going to dissent. It's probably not impossible to take T&E before property, but all things being equal I think I'd take property before T&E, if I were you.

A lot of these wills concepts ("To A for life, then to B so long as X, but if X then to C.") only make sense if you've had some prior exposure to life estates, defeasible fees, etc. Even if you forget about shifting and springing interests as soon as you walk out of the property exam, it must be hard to take T&E without some prior exposure to the vocabulary.

[24secure]

i wish i didnt have to sit through property

[volfan6415]

My guess is that if the school does not require property before T&E then you are probably ok....in all likelyhood the property course at your school does not spend anytime on the estate language and that is why property is not required as a prereq......

[animalcrkrs]

I thought the T&E portion of property was hands down the most boring section of the whole course... life estate, fee simple determinable "to you after you do this but not if X does Y to C's poor 3 legged cat"..blah blah blah...and I liked property overall lol! So I'd rather take property before jumping into T&E.

Also, I agree with NewHere that it is probably more useful to have the estate lingo in your vocabulary as part of the bigger property picture before getting into T&E

[helfer snooterbagon]

Is property not a required 1L course at your school?

We're not required to take Property . . . ever.

The answer to your question is: it doesn't matter. T&E isn't really related to property concepts.

What is it related to then?

[Pearalegal]

Is property not a required 1L course at your school?

We're not required to take Property . . . ever.

The answer to your question is: it doesn't matter. T&E isn't really related to property concepts. But, WTF law school doesn't require property? Non-ABA?

Pretty much the opposite, actually.

Yale doesn't require property.

I'm sorry, did no one else find this exchange as hysterical as I did?

[grobbelski]

Honestly, you'll be fine. There are some conceptual things like estates in land that carried over from property into estates and trusts. How a tenancy in common passes upon the death of one party is one example. However mostly, these things are simple enough that they can be picked up. Then again, this may only be true in the classes that I took.