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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by megaTTTron » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:33 pm

stinger35 wrote:
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stinger35 wrote:Without a graded legal writing class, I would have a 4.0 for the year.

Honestly...why do they do this to us? If I would have researched this fact more, I swear I would have gone to a different school JUST BECAUSE OF THAT
Why would a LW class not be graded . . . isn't that standard?
Yea, more common than not. But there is still a significant chunk of schools (including t14) that do not grade legal writing and simply give a P/F.
Sorry about your grade. btw. what list of schools did you end up w/?

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Post by stinger35 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:57 pm

megaTTTron wrote:
stinger35 wrote:
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stinger35 wrote:Without a graded legal writing class, I would have a 4.0 for the year.

Honestly...why do they do this to us? If I would have researched this fact more, I swear I would have gone to a different school JUST BECAUSE OF THAT
Why would a LW class not be graded . . . isn't that standard?
Yea, more common than not. But there is still a significant chunk of schools (including t14) that do not grade legal writing and simply give a P/F.
Sorry about your grade. btw. what list of schools did you end up w/?
No worries, just makes me so jealous of those with P/F in LW. (Our classes our only allowed to give out 2 A's and kids in there just outworked me basically). As for schools...Mich, Northwestern, GULC, NYU, Columbia, Duke, Cornell, UCLA, Berkeley....all received apps from me. I'm basically hoping for about a 20% acceptance rate hahaha - if Mich or NU though, I'd be absolutely ecstatic

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by megaTTTron » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:41 pm

Our LW sections were the same. Kids had to WORK to get those As. Regardless. I like your list. I'll bet you get a bite at N(YU)CBM.

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by BunkMoreland » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:22 pm

I somehow managed to land a 3.98 my second sem at a t20. If I had to give advice, I'd be at a loss. I know of no definable strategies that clearly improved my work. If anything, it's powerful testimony toward the theory that you HAVE to develop your own way, period.


Oh, and -1 to anyone who says going to class is the most important part of law school. I probably skipped 25% of my classes. With a firm grasp on the teacher's style and a good syllabus with all assignments, you can teach yourself just fine.

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Post by eth3n » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:27 pm

BunkMoreland wrote:Oh, and -1 to anyone who says going to class is the most important part of law school. I probably skipped 25% of my classes. With a firm grasp on the teacher's style and a good syllabus with all assignments, you can teach yourself just fine.
I think this depends on the teacher, native testtaking ability, participation/lack thereof affecting grade, as well the attendance habits of the other students in the class
I don't know if this is the best advice to give to the 0L lurkers (not the "most important" part, but "you can top out teaching yourself" part)

I doubt many would disagree that regurgitating the teacher's lecture examples and personal idiosyncrasies on your exam is generally a good way to get points.

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by Lawrence » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:58 pm

Finally got all my grades back. I was top 3% first semester but slid back this semester. I'm right on last semester's cut off for top 10%, and that cut off fluctuates up and down each semester. If it happens to go down this semester I made top 10%, if it goes up, then I missed it. I'll be fine with my slide as long as I stay in the top 10% which will put me on the law review. If not, it will be kind of a hard pill to swallow.

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by OperaSoprano » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:02 am

Grats to everyone newly informed who killed it! Still waiting, and doing so more calmly than I thought I ever could, given circumstances. If there is one constant in the world, it's that we never can plan for anything, or if we do plan, we must expect that those plans can change in an instant. If I were Buddhist I suppose I would write something about how attachment only leads on to unhappiness, but I would make the worst Buddhist on the face of the planet. I hope too much.

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by vanwinkle » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:12 am

BunkMoreland wrote:Oh, and -1 to anyone who says going to class is the most important part of law school. I probably skipped 25% of my classes. With a firm grasp on the teacher's style and a good syllabus with all assignments, you can teach yourself just fine.
The only way I was able to get a firm grasp on the teacher's style and what the teacher would consider important on the exam was by attending 90% of the classes. I would've attended more if life didn't get in the way. While it's possible to attend less and still do well, anyone who takes that path does so at their own risk.

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by Paichka » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:34 pm

Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by vanwinkle » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:02 pm

Paichka wrote:Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.
Congratulations!

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by Paichka » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:29 pm

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Paichka wrote:Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.
Congratulations!
Thanks! You guys are the only people I can tell. My friends don't talk about grades. :)

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Post by 98234872348 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:34 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
Paichka wrote:Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by OperaSoprano » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:01 am

Paichka wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
Paichka wrote:Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.
Congratulations!
Thanks! You guys are the only people I can tell. My friends don't talk about grades. :)
'Grats! And your friends are wise. It's best to discuss grades with friends at other schools, anyway.

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Post by Pablo Ramirez » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:03 am

OperaSoprano wrote:
Paichka wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
Paichka wrote:Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.
Congratulations!
Thanks! You guys are the only people I can tell. My friends don't talk about grades. :)
'Grats! And your friends are wise. It's best to discuss grades with friends at other schools, anyway who don't have 4.0s

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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester

Post by Paichka » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:02 am

OperaSoprano wrote:
Paichka wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
Paichka wrote:Finally got all my grades back.

3.89 last semester
4.11 this semester (HOLY SH!T)
4.00 cumulative (HOLY SH!T)

I couldn't believe it. Still can't.
Congratulations!
Thanks! You guys are the only people I can tell. My friends don't talk about grades. :)
'Grats! And your friends are wise. It's best to discuss grades with friends at other schools, anyway.
Yeah. We decided early on that we weren't going to talk about grades -- we broke that rule only for LRW, when we were...ah...complaining about our professor and comparing our raw scores on our memos. It's definitely better not to talk about grades. I don't even like to talk about grades with other law students in person -- when I got my final grade yesterday, I was still in shock, and one of the other interns in my office got HER final grade back, and it was a C. So I thought it was better just to share the news HERE, and not run around my office hooting with unrestrained glee.

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Post by OperaSoprano » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:13 pm

Is anyone else (Chicago students excluded here) still waiting for grades? Should I be worried that the grades actually posted ages ago, but there was some reporting mishap?

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OperaSoprano wrote:Is anyone else (Chicago students excluded here) still waiting for grades? Should I be worried that the grades actually posted ages ago, but there was some reporting mishap?
OS, I'm still waiting for one grade. It's really annoying considering I took the final over 5 weeks ago.

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Post by OperaSoprano » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:19 pm

frost wrote:
OperaSoprano wrote:Is anyone else (Chicago students excluded here) still waiting for grades? Should I be worried that the grades actually posted ages ago, but there was some reporting mishap?
OS, I'm still waiting for one grade. It's really annoying considering I took the final over 5 weeks ago.
Oh, I hope you get your news soon! I tried to be a good confidante, but now it seems my section is to be among the last to hear. I have no spring grades except for LRW. Ah, well, learn to be patient and make it happen, right? I wish you good luck!

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Post by Unemployed » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:24 pm

OperaSoprano wrote:Is anyone else (Chicago students excluded here) still waiting for grades? Should I be worried that the grades actually posted ages ago, but there was some reporting mishap?
I'm still waiting for one.

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Post by MrKappus » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:31 pm

Fears irrational. 3.8 second semester. Whee. Hope it went similarly for all of you. This thread helped me pass the ulcer-inducing time until grades came out. So thx to all.

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MrKappus wrote:Fears irrational. 3.8 second semester. Whee. Hope it went similarly for all of you. This thread helped me pass the ulcer-inducing time until grades came out. So thx to all.
Fears rational, as pertaining to crim. 2.9 in crim law. Poop.

Oh well, I got me a 3.6 in conlaw. Huzzah!

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prezidentv8 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:Fears irrational. 3.8 second semester. Whee. Hope it went similarly for all of you. This thread helped me pass the ulcer-inducing time until grades came out. So thx to all.
Fears rational, as pertaining to crim. 2.9 in crim law. Poop.

Oh well, I got me a 3.6 in conlaw. Huzzah!
Grats on the conlaw!

Grats as well to MrKappus. I wish I could post in here in earnest, and I hope I'll get to call the fears irrational...

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OperaSoprano wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:Fears irrational. 3.8 second semester. Whee. Hope it went similarly for all of you. This thread helped me pass the ulcer-inducing time until grades came out. So thx to all.
Fears rational, as pertaining to crim. 2.9 in crim law. Poop.

Oh well, I got me a 3.6 in conlaw. Huzzah!
Grats on the conlaw!

Grats as well to MrKappus. I wish I could post in here in earnest, and I hope I'll get to call the fears irrational...
No grades yet?

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Post by OperaSoprano » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:33 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
OperaSoprano wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
MrKappus wrote:Fears irrational. 3.8 second semester. Whee. Hope it went similarly for all of you. This thread helped me pass the ulcer-inducing time until grades came out. So thx to all.
Fears rational, as pertaining to crim. 2.9 in crim law. Poop.

Oh well, I got me a 3.6 in conlaw. Huzzah!
Grats on the conlaw!

Grats as well to MrKappus. I wish I could post in here in earnest, and I hope I'll get to call the fears irrational...
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