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This is a really dumb question

Post by bball999 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:24 am

...but I'm going to ask it anyway. What exactly do you do in law school for grades? I get that exams are huge, but do you have to write any papers? Are there any other types of assignments? Does participation count?

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Post by pleasetryagain » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:35 am

I was under the impression that exams are graded anonymously. Is that only the case at some schools?

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Post by Ipsa Dixit » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:43 am

Depends on the class and the professor.

Grades for my substantive law classes have all been based on an exam. Participation could count for 1/3 of a grade at the discretion of the professor (e.g. if you got a B on the exam, the prof could leave it, bump you down to a B-, or bump you up to a B+).

Grades for legal research and writing were based on papers such as legal memos and trial briefs. Participation again can be worth 1/3 of a grade point.

Grades for jurisprudence and its ilk ("Law and ______" classes) have been based on mostly papers, but also significantly on participation (like 70% of grade based on paper, 30% based in participation.) These classes included presentations.

Grades for practical courses other than LRW can include writing assignments and performances such as oral arguments, negotiations, and mock trials.

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Post by worldtraveler » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:53 am

In small seminar classes the grading might vary more. I have a class with 3 papers and a participation grade. I also had a 1L class with 3 small papers. For the most part, it's just a final though.

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Post by bball999 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:15 am

Excellent, thank you everyone. I now feel a tad bit less ignorant.

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Post by Quine » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:09 am

Are there any threads on this by school?

If not, maybe we should get some started. I think it'd be really informative. Maybe an entire forum dedicated to different schools/professors and grading schemes?

If I had this information available, it would definitely influence where I would attend.

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Post by 270910 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:08 am

mctj wrote:Are there any threads on this by school?

If not, maybe we should get some started. I think it'd be really informative. Maybe an entire forum dedicated to different schools/professors and grading schemes?

If I had this information available, it would definitely influence where I would attend.
Well, first year, every school in the country teaches the roughly same classes and assigns grades based on a single, multiple hour exam consisting largely of 'issue spotter' questions. It wouldn't be a very interesting thread ;)

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Post by A'nold » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:27 pm

I am going to research 2L classes and avoid any with paper requirements or presentations like the plague, unless it's a clinic or something. I'll take my timed, 100% of the grade final, thank you.

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Post by macattaq » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:21 pm

A'nold wrote:I am going to research 2L classes and avoid any with paper requirements or presentations like the plague, unless it's a clinic or something. I'll take my timed, 100% of the grade final, thank you.
Really? I'd rather have a paper than an exam. It allows for more thoughtfulness, and the chance to really flesh out your arguments.

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Re: This is a really dumb question

Post by A'nold » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:48 pm

macattaq wrote:
A'nold wrote:I am going to research 2L classes and avoid any with paper requirements or presentations like the plague, unless it's a clinic or something. I'll take my timed, 100% of the grade final, thank you.
Really? I'd rather have a paper than an exam. It allows for more thoughtfulness, and the chance to really flesh out your arguments.
Which = a more level playing field and hundreds more hours of painstaking research, drafting, and citations. No thanks. :)

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Post by Ragged » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:55 pm

A'nold wrote:
macattaq wrote:
A'nold wrote:I am going to research 2L classes and avoid any with paper requirements or presentations like the plague, unless it's a clinic or something. I'll take my timed, 100% of the grade final, thank you.
Really? I'd rather have a paper than an exam. It allows for more thoughtfulness, and the chance to really flesh out your arguments.
Which = a more level playing field and hundreds more hours of painstaking research, drafting, and citations. No thanks. :)
???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????

You mean just hours, right?

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Post by A'nold » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:31 pm

Ragged wrote:
A'nold wrote:
macattaq wrote:
A'nold wrote:I am going to research 2L classes and avoid any with paper requirements or presentations like the plague, unless it's a clinic or something. I'll take my timed, 100% of the grade final, thank you.
Really? I'd rather have a paper than an exam. It allows for more thoughtfulness, and the chance to really flesh out your arguments.
Which = a more level playing field and hundreds more hours of painstaking research, drafting, and citations. No thanks. :)
???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????

You mean just hours, right?
Wait, what was your question? I have spent well over 200 hours on legal writing this year. Probably much more.

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Post by seespotrun » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:59 pm

bball999 wrote:...but I'm going to ask it anyway. What exactly do you do in law school for grades? I get that exams are huge, but do you have to write any papers? Are there any other types of assignments? Does participation count?

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