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Entry Level law jobs in Sports/film industry

Post by corporatelaw87 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:24 pm

I was wondering what the entry level legal jobs are for say the NBA and the NFL. Also, film studios like Focus features and ABC-Disney

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Post by vanwinkle » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:24 pm

The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.

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Post by corporatelaw87 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:29 pm

vanwinkle wrote:The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.
Didn't Theo Epstein go to San Diego? He started entry level now he's GM of the Red Sox

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Post by destroyer » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm

vanwinkle wrote:The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.
No need to be so negative, obviously you don't need a HYS to score a legal job in sports/film industry

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Post by b.gump81 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm

not too sure exactly...but i know a lot of the top sports agents for the NBA and NFL players went to tier 3 or 4 schools...and either started with a small firm or went solo and got lucky

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Post by vanwinkle » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:31 pm

destroyer wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.
No need to be so negative, obviously you don't need a HYS to score a legal job in sports/film industry
No, but if you don't have an HYS degree what you need is some well-established prior work experience, which would make you not "entry-level" anymore.

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Post by General Tso » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:32 pm

vanwinkle wrote:The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.
I usually agree with you v-dub, but I think you are wrong here. Disney hires out of Hastings all the time, and from what I've heard they aren't looking at just top 10%. Also NBC Universal just posted a summer internship on the Hastings jobs bank.

Sports law is bogus but you can get on with a Hollywood company out of lower ranked CA schools.

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Post by General Tso » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:33 pm

corporatelaw87 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.
Didn't Theo Epstein go to San Diego? He started entry level now he's GM of the Red Sox
He was the Assistant GM for the Padres before going to USD law. He has a BA in Econ from Yale, if I remember correctly.

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Post by chadwick218 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:34 pm

vanwinkle wrote:The correct answer is "none" unless you have an HYS degree.
vanwinkle is correct though, to the most part. the underlying dilemma is that there are only a handful of these jobs to begin with. furthermore, unless you have some very unique credentials (i.e. prior work experience), the sports / film industry is going to desire a lawyer who has practiced for a number of years.

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Post by chadwick218 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:36 pm

oh, the disney job is a shit job, to the most part. i have a couple of friends who agreed to work for disney right out of law school a few years ago and now they cannot get any firm to even look at their resume (they attended Duke and WUSTL and graduated somewhere b/w the top 25% and top 40%).

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Post by Swamp Monster » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:39 pm

Depends on specific role...Agents have a lot of flexibility because more than anything its about rainmaking not anything too expert. Team employees have some flexibility too. The ones who need T-14 degrees tend to be league executives who usually migrate from biglaw. Paul Tagliabue (NFL) worked at Covington Burling and went to GULC. NHL's Gary Bettman and NBA'S David Stern were Proskauer and went to NYU and Columbia respectively.

While team's are somewhat broad in the schools they look at, the starting pay is generally low to start (30's/40's), so its obviously hard to do straight out of school with loans to pay off.

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Post by General Tso » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:40 pm

chadwick218 wrote:oh, the disney job is a shit job, to the most part. i have a couple of friends who agreed to work for disney right out of law school a few years ago and now they cannot get any firm to even look at their resume (they attended Duke and WUSTL and graduated somewhere b/w the top 25% and top 40%).
Well, my understanding is that corporate/in-house type work is much different from legal practice. It could be just that they don't want to have to retrain someone while paying them 2nd-3rd year salaries.

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Post by LegalPink » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:45 pm

Swamp Monster wrote:Depends on specific role...Agents have a lot of flexibility because more than anything its about rainmaking not anything too expert. Team employees have some flexibility too. The ones who need T-14 degrees tend to be league executives who usually migrate from biglaw. Paul Tagliabue (NFL) worked at Covington Burling and went to GULC. NHL's Gary Bettman and NBA'S David Stern were Proskauer and went to NYU and Columbia respectively.

While team's are somewhat broad in the schools they look at, the starting pay is generally low to start (30's/40's), so its obviously hard to do straight out of school with loans to pay off.
yes, Gary Bettman THE COMMISSIONER of the NHL went to NYU, but if you look through their counsel positions - there are grads. of Villanova and Brooklyn, and I know that they advertise their internships to students at lower tier I schools.....i definitely don't think that Sports/Entertainment industry is strictly reserved to HYS.

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Post by Swamp Monster » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:11 am

LegalPink wrote:
Swamp Monster wrote:Depends on specific role...Agents have a lot of flexibility because more than anything its about rainmaking not anything too expert. Team employees have some flexibility too. The ones who need T-14 degrees tend to be league executives who usually migrate from biglaw. Paul Tagliabue (NFL) worked at Covington Burling and went to GULC. NHL's Gary Bettman and NBA'S David Stern were Proskauer and went to NYU and Columbia respectively.

While team's are somewhat broad in the schools they look at, the starting pay is generally low to start (30's/40's), so its obviously hard to do straight out of school with loans to pay off.
yes, Gary Bettman THE COMMISSIONER of the NHL went to NYU, but if you look through their counsel positions - there are grads. of Villanova and Brooklyn, and I know that they advertise their internships to students at lower tier I schools.....i definitely don't think that Sports/Entertainment industry is strictly reserved to HYS.
You're right about NHL. I'm definitely not as informed on NHL as I am on other 3 where I know most of the counsel's and higher ups have T14 degrees. I certainly agree with you that as an industry it's not reserved to HYS or T14, probably not even T1...and as for agents, anything goes.

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