Bar/past employer question Forum

[avacado111]

So, I was working at a retail (GAP) two weeks. I later decided to quit b/c I couldn't really stand the enviornment. I didn't do anything wrong, but the supervisor was pretty mad because she had spent so much time training me. I didn't say anything to her, and apologized (I explained to her that I felt this job wasn't a good "fit" with my personality).

Now, I'm wondering how the bar exam contacts previous employers. I don't know how long she would hold a grudge. But could this hinder me from passing the character and fitness exam? What does the bar actually send to previous employers? I mean, (for example) do they ask questions like: can I see the applicant's resume? how did the applicant got paid? I have researched this, and I couldn't come up with anything on the internet.

Is this going to screw me over? Will I not be able to practice law b/c of this silly incident?

[Pearalegal]

Um, no. There is no record of disciplinary action. You quit. Even if she gave you a horrible review, who cares? No paperwork saying you did anything wrong, and you didn't do anything wrong regardless.

Except getting the "fall into the GAP" jingle in my head again.

[09042014]

So, I was working at a retail (GAP) two weeks. I later decided to quit b/c I couldn't really stand the enviornment. I didn't do anything wrong, but the supervisor was pretty mad because she had spent so much time training me. I didn't say anything to her, and apologized (I explained to her that I felt this job wasn't a good "fit" with my personality).

Now, I'm wondering how the bar exam contacts previous employers. I don't know how long she would hold a grudge. But could this hinder me from passing the character and fitness exam? What does the bar actually send to previous employers? I mean, (for example) do they ask questions like: can I see the applicant's resume? how did the applicant got paid? I have researched this, and I couldn't come up with anything on the internet.

Is this going to screw me over? Will I not be able to practice law b/c of this silly incident?

Do you really think you won't pass C&F because you quit the GAP? Really? Really?

[avacado111]

So, I was working at a retail (GAP) two weeks. I later decided to quit b/c I couldn't really stand the enviornment. I didn't do anything wrong, but the supervisor was pretty mad because she had spent so much time training me. I didn't say anything to her, and apologized (I explained to her that I felt this job wasn't a good "fit" with my personality).

Now, I'm wondering how the bar exam contacts previous employers. I don't know how long she would hold a grudge. But could this hinder me from passing the character and fitness exam? What does the bar actually send to previous employers? I mean, (for example) do they ask questions like: can I see the applicant's resume? how did the applicant got paid? I have researched this, and I couldn't come up with anything on the internet.

Is this going to screw me over? Will I not be able to practice law b/c of this silly incident?

Do you really think you won't pass C&F because you quit the GAP? Really? Really?

I thought the bar reviews/contacts your past employers. If they did, and she had a grudge on me for quiting, I thought she could ruin my chances of passing the bar.

[A'nold]

Well, if you won't pass b/c of this, I certainly won't pass. I have like a billion prior employers and have quit quite a few crap jobs in my life. Hopefully the bar will see passing law school and the bar as a sign of maturity and "stick with it ness" if not, I'm done for.

[linquest]

What does the bar actually send to previous employers? I mean, (for example) do they ask questions like: can I see the applicant's resume? how did the applicant got paid? I have researched this, and I couldn't come up with anything on the internet.

Depends on the state. You can always call the state Bar Examiners or C&F agency, anonymously if you prefer, and ask.

[Pearalegal]

Again. No disciplinary action was taken against you.

/thread.

[Joe Biden]

Um, no. There is no record of disciplinary action. You quit. Even if she gave you a horrible review, who cares? No paperwork saying you did anything wrong, and you didn't do anything wrong regardless.

Except getting the "fall into the GAP" jingle in my head again.

There does not need to be "paperwork" to raise character and fitness issues. If the employer is really that upset, what stops them from making something up. Sure, you can sue them, but it might still raise an issue. Exes are known for pulling that. We actually had a scenario like this in Professional Responsibility. The character and witness board, along with the ethics committee, do not only deal in substantiated facts. They will investigate allegations as well. Sure, you might end up being cleared ultimately, but it can be a very unpleasant experience to go through. And, who is to guarantee the truth will prevail. Sometimes the honest person loses. That is real life.

[thatsnotmyname]

Wow, is this actually an issue? Now, I'm worried... I'm not even in law school yet. However, a job (a Wal-mart like store) I held before entering college may have terminated me for a no-show. Would that seriously raise issues on C&F, even though it was before even entering college?

Also, technically I'm not sure whether I was actually terminated or not, because I told her I quit... is there any way to actually check what your record says... because some law school apps ask if you were ever terminated, right? So I should know the right answer to that question.

[09042014]

Wow, is this actually an issue? Now, I'm worried... I'm not even in law school yet. However, a job (a Wal-mart like store) I held before entering college may have terminated me for a no-show. Would that seriously raise issues on C&F, even though it was before even entering college?

Also, technically I'm not sure whether I was actually terminated or not, because I told her I quit... is there any way to actually check what your record says... because some law school apps ask if you were ever terminated, right? So I should know the right answer to that question.

I think they are looking for embezzlement, insider trading, corporate espionage, black male, sexual harassment, not getting written up for no showing at Kmart.

[Unjust Enrichment]

I think they are looking for embezzlement, insider trading, corporate espionage, black male, sexual harassment, not getting written up for no showing at Kmart.

Well-veiled attempt to start a URM debate.

[A'nold]

I think they are looking for embezzlement, insider trading, corporate espionage, black male, sexual harassment, not getting written up for no showing at Kmart.

Well-veiled attempt to start a URM debate.

[09042014]

I think they are looking for embezzlement, insider trading, corporate espionage, black male, sexual harassment, not getting written up for no showing at Kmart.

Well-veiled attempt to start a URM debate.

Greatest typo of my life.

[Sangiovese]

Many corporations have policies in place that limit them to giving your job title and dates of employment if they are contacted about ex exployees. A few years ago people started filing lawsuits against previous employers for giving bad references and it pretty much killed the whole checking references thing. The Gap is a pretty big corp and most likely has such a policy.

Heck, one of my previous bosses couldn't even write a letter for law school because of the corporate policy. It's a shame too, because he writes well and could have turned out a masterpiece for me.

[JPrezy87]

So, I was working at a retail (GAP) two weeks. I later decided to quit b/c I couldn't really stand the enviornment. I didn't do anything wrong, but the supervisor was pretty mad because she had spent so much time training me. I didn't say anything to her, and apologized (I explained to her that I felt this job wasn't a good "fit" with my personality).

Now, I'm wondering how the bar exam contacts previous employers. I don't know how long she would hold a grudge. But could this hinder me from passing the character and fitness exam? What does the bar actually send to previous employers? I mean, (for example) do they ask questions like: can I see the applicant's resume? how did the applicant got paid? I have researched this, and I couldn't come up with anything on the internet.

Is this going to screw me over? Will I not be able to practice law b/c of this silly incident?

I'm sorry but I was just browsing through past topics through the forum search and I stumbled unto this..son...you can just omit them on your employment history .

[glitter178]

So, I was working at a retail (GAP) two weeks. I later decided to quit b/c I couldn't really stand the enviornment. I didn't do anything wrong, but the supervisor was pretty mad because she had spent so much time training me. I didn't say anything to her, and apologized (I explained to her that I felt this job wasn't a good "fit" with my personality).

Now, I'm wondering how the bar exam contacts previous employers. I don't know how long she would hold a grudge. But could this hinder me from passing the character and fitness exam? What does the bar actually send to previous employers? I mean, (for example) do they ask questions like: can I see the applicant's resume? how did the applicant got paid? I have researched this, and I couldn't come up with anything on the internet.

Is this going to screw me over? Will I not be able to practice law b/c of this silly incident?

I'm sorry but I was just browsing through past topics through the forum search and I stumbled unto this..son...you can just omit them on your employment history .

but dont' you have to put all past employment? i'm going to deal with the same issue. worked a lot of jobs, always gave a two weeks notice, but a few times didn't work my last shift.

[JPrezy87]

I'm sorry but I was just browsing through past topics through the forum search and I stumbled unto this..son...you can just omit them on your employment history .[/quote]

but dont' you have to put all past employment? i'm going to deal with the same issue. worked a lot of jobs, always gave a two weeks notice, but a few times didn't work my last shift.[/quote]

Well technically (they say) you're suppose to report all employment since you're 18th birthday...but hey...if you wanna omit a past employer you had some bad blood with..be my guest...and chances are...they're not gonna find out..not like there's a national database of all the jobs you've ever held

[Kabuo]

Well technically (they say) you're suppose to report all employment since you're 18th birthday...but hey...if you wanna omit a past employer you had some bad blood with..be my guest...and chances are...they're not gonna find out..not like there's a national database of all the jobs you've ever held

Well, legit jobs.

[JPrezy87]

Well technically (they say) you're suppose to report all employment since you're 18th birthday...but hey...if you wanna omit a past employer you had some bad blood with..be my guest...and chances are...they're not gonna find out..not like there's a national database of all the jobs you've ever held

Well, legit jobs.

huh? what you mean??

[Kabuo]

Taxes?

[JPrezy87]

Taxes?

um, sir...could you speak..er...respond to me in complete sentences please?? im not understanding your one word posts lol

[Kabuo]

I'm referring to W2 forms. You know, the ones showing how much you earned and from where.

[JPrezy87]

I'm referring to W2 forms. You know, the ones showing how much you earned and from where.

oh...i understand what you're saying...but I doubt they'll ask for or look for those .

[RUQRU]

Here is a link to an ABA PDF file: Comprehensive Guide to Bar Admission Requirements 2010. It has charts for all kinds of stuff for every state.
Note that many states allow folks with felony convictions to become members of the bar. You quitting the GAP is not going to matter.

See page 6 for the C&F requirements.

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[Renzo]

In the past 24 hours, I've now read a thread asking about lying under oath to the FBI is ok, and one asking if quitting a dumb retail job makes you unfit to practice law.


My mind is reeling.