STRAIGHT Bs to STRAIGHT As??? Forum

[ontopoftheworld]

yeah and i dont get how people here cant read the op

I read the op, and here's what I'll say in response:
1) Knock off the act. You're a mediocre student at a mediocre school with practically nonexistent job prospects. If most of us were stuck in your shoes we'd probably be pissing our pants in fear. Your "self-confidence" schtick is a thin veneer, and it's easy to see through.

2) A 2.8 is not "straight Bs." A 3.0 is straight Bs. Perhaps your lack of precision is affecting your grades. Oh, also, top 50.8% means that there is 50.8% of your class with better grades than you, not that you're better than 50.8%. Again, lack of precision does not bode well for a law student.

3) Your transfer prospects with a 3.4 GPA aren't going to be particularly amazing, and that assumes you're getting a 4.0 this semester. Perhaps it's time to face reality that you may be finishing your law career at your current school.

4) There are a thousand reasons why you could be doing poorly in law school. Start walking through them one by one. Schedule time with your professors to go over your "straight Bs" so they can show you why you didn't get As. That's the only way you're going to improve. A bunch of people on a forum can't diagnose your problems based on a poorly scribed OP and a handful of arrogant retorts.

Im back to say that I never once considered finishing my law career at my old school because I was confident that I would succeed and I have. That is all.

[ontopoftheworld]

Kiddo these people you are accusing of attacking you are giving you reaaaallly sound advice. I improved my grades a lot between first a second semester, and you've gotten some great advice. By the way, pretty much all the people you're attacking as unemployed are either employed, or at elite schools (where they could do much worse than you and still get prestigious firms). My first piece of "advices" for you is to stop being an arrogant fool and start being receptive to people that are giving you good advice.

I got about two great advices here, none of which were yours

[A. Nony Mouse]

Why did you go to a school you're not willing to graduate from to begin with?

because i knew i would transfer up and i did.

You hoped you would transfer.

[rcharter1978]

Yeah lol Nony don't bother trying to engage with this concussed tumor.

@OP come back and read this thread after you get no-offered at your Third Tier Toilet.

after sorting out my acceptance letters, i have two weeks to spare before working on school stuff again

Im back on this thread to laugh at posts like this. Actually I was at a T4, I learned, but none of that matters now.
Im at a T1, where are you? In the toilet ?

I don't think I'm a spirit crusher, but I do find it odd that you're taking the time to come back to TLS to try to rub it in people's faces.

Granted, people DID ask you how it all turned out. So, I can understand taking a victory lap. But the need to go back through every post and shit talk has the fragrance of a rat. In my experience, people who have achieved something against all odds and in the face of "naysayers" are just so happy with themselves that they don't care to talk shit to anyone, because they are just so enthralled with themselves.

So, to me, its either one of three things things: 1) you're just one of those "tit-for-tat" always rub it in someone's face personalities, which sucks because that is not a personality trait anyone likes and therefore it will be difficult for you to advance in any career. 2) You're overcompensating for the fact that you didn't do as well as you wanted to and making up a story because everyone was pressuring you for an update and you wanted to save face since you were so adamant. 3) you're trolling

For your sake, I hope its either that you're overcompensating or you're trolling. There are a lot of really smart people in the world who can't get ahead because people simply don't like them. And if this is a component of your personality, people probably aren't going to like you. People almost never want to work with someone they just don't like. No matter what school you're at, you're likely fairly intelligent. So you can learn skills and the law and application the same way everyone else can. But personality is pretty set, and if you're not a likable person, thats a rough road to travel in life.

TL;DR -- Take these next two weeks and learn to be a gracious winner. It will serve you far better in life than anything else you can do in two weeks.

[pancakes3]

"winner" is generous. any school that accepts someone with a boatload of B's and B-'s even with a semester of A's as offset probably isn't a school worth transferring into.

this is a "3.4 at AU/Catholic, got in off the transfer waitlist at GW" type situation. V likely to strike out at OCI and now paying GW sticker. The ego:accomplishment ratio is not justified.

"I'm at a T1, where are you? In the toilet?" is so cringe-worthy.

[PeanutsNJam]

Yeah lol congrats, you're paying sticker at a T1? Wow.

[ontopoftheworld]

Yeah lol congrats, you're paying sticker at a T1? Wow.

of course lol because i dont need to pay since my mom is an undergraduate professor there so suck it

[ontopoftheworld]

"winner" is generous. any school that accepts someone with a boatload of B's and B-'s even with a semester of A's as offset probably isn't a school worth transferring into.

this is a "3.4 at AU/Catholic, got in off the transfer waitlist at GW" type situation. V likely to strike out at OCI and now paying GW sticker. The ego:accomplishment ratio is not justified.

"I'm at a T1, where are you? In the toilet?" is so cringe-worthy.

oh so cringe worthy hahahah yes so so cringe worthy
the people at my new school would laugh your ass out the door.
please, continue to entertain yourself here
it's hilarious. i love your petulant attitude. it's amusing ! continue!
oh and it's nothing like that but I invite you to assume because you put the ass in assume very well (my attempt at your humor level)

[ontopoftheworld]

Yeah lol Nony don't bother trying to engage with this concussed tumor.

@OP come back and read this thread after you get no-offered at your Third Tier Toilet.

after sorting out my acceptance letters, i have two weeks to spare before working on school stuff again

Im back on this thread to laugh at posts like this. Actually I was at a T4, I learned, but none of that matters now.
Im at a T1, where are you? In the toilet ?

I don't think I'm a spirit crusher, but I do find it odd that you're taking the time to come back to TLS to try to rub it in people's faces.

Granted, people DID ask you how it all turned out. So, I can understand taking a victory lap. But the need to go back through every post and shit talk has the fragrance of a rat. In my experience, people who have achieved something against all odds and in the face of "naysayers" are just so happy with themselves that they don't care to talk shit to anyone, because they are just so enthralled with themselves.

So, to me, its either one of three things things: 1) you're just one of those "tit-for-tat" always rub it in someone's face personalities, which sucks because that is not a personality trait anyone likes and therefore it will be difficult for you to advance in any career. 2) You're overcompensating for the fact that you didn't do as well as you wanted to and making up a story because everyone was pressuring you for an update and you wanted to save face since you were so adamant. 3) you're trolling

For your sake, I hope its either that you're overcompensating or you're trolling. There are a lot of really smart people in the world who can't get ahead because people simply don't like them. And if this is a component of your personality, people probably aren't going to like you. People almost never want to work with someone they just don't like. No matter what school you're at, you're likely fairly intelligent. So you can learn skills and the law and application the same way everyone else can. But personality is pretty set, and if you're not a likable person, thats a rough road to travel in life.

TL;DR -- Take these next two weeks and learn to be a gracious winner. It will serve you far better in life than anything else you can do in two weeks.

of course im back to rub it in. If im not back, these losers would continue to write on here claiming that I disappeared or whatnot.
Further, it's just a lot more interesting to look back on this thread knowing fully well that my "overly confident attitude" was not a facade.
It's also necessary to note for the people who doubted my potential that they (ie, you) know nothing about me or people with real confidence
i'm actually here to end the thread with a conclusion, in case future 1Ls see this thread. I want to give hope, with some result (good or bad- in this case, good).
Yes I may be a tit-for-tat rub it in the face type. Only on the internet though. I wouldnt dare do this in person. It sucks for those still in T4, my friends.
(If I hadnt gotten in? I would be too depressed to even come back to this thread in the first place.)

As a fantastic ending to a scary 1L journey, I want to conclude by saying few words to people who come here for advice:
DO TRANSFER UP no matter what. Aim for T25 at the least and make the transfer.
1) the requirements to graduate in my new T1 school is completely different- only three courses that I must take other than my 1L courses!
- in my T4 school, I had to do several externships, several different courses like business administration and bar prep related (community property) courses as part of my graduation requirement. This is unnecessary and robs me from my freedom to explore areas I truly want to explore.
2) dont worry about the grades after you transfer (do CARE but don't WORRY, there's a huge difference)
- Yes, grades start fresh so your As would be a "pass" on the new transcript.. but also know that there's way less competition amongst students in top school compared to T3 and below. At the new school, you can take classes that interest you and less classes in your 2L year = less worry for grades. Good grades will come naturally if you're not taking a full load and you're taking classes you actually like! I am thrilled to take classes that I came to law school for. I am excited to learn and I am excited to not WORRY about grades from day one.
- this is coming from my personal experience. I am currently registering in only electives at my new school because I am able to focus on my career-focused classes of my choice. I do not have to follow a set curriculum. The T1 school does not care about bar related courses and prep because my new school's bar passage rate is at 93%. The T1 schools place well in jobs and have many connections in different states. No pressure for job experiences, no need to PAY to work for free. It's all up to my decision to choose courses and take on externship as I please. But also note that the T1 schools have opportunities, clinics, and programs beyond what any T2 and below school can provide. The things Ive always wanted to do, I can at my new school. It's crazy.
3) the people.
- people at my new school do not compete cutthroat like my T4 school because the curve is already higher (3.3) rather than 2.9, which means more As.
- the connections. It's unbelievable. I have only just begun to experience the tight knit alumni connections via social media (welcoming transfers and the like), but I have also noticed exceeding amount of attention to the T1 school in the state. The entire city and the entire state wants you as their lawyer and loves the law school. It's quite amazing coming from such a small T4 school.

Im thrilled to find out that I can enjoy my 2/3L at a top ranked school, where I can explore various fields and clinics. They have the best speakers (supreme court judges, for example), fortune 500 companies' lawyers as alumni, and amazing faculty. I am beyond excited. I am gloating here. I love rubbing it in your ugly anonymous faces because you all doubted me. Peace out, I won't have time or need for this forum.

And please, stop trying to undermine people just for their confidence. Maybe they actually have a reason for all that confidence. Like me

[lavarman84]

2) dont worry about the grades after you transfer (do CARE but don't WORRY, there's a huge difference)
- Yes, grades start fresh so your As would be a "pass" on the new transcript.. but also know that there's way less competition amongst students in top school compared to T3 and below. At the new school, you can take classes that interest you and less classes in your 2L year = less worry for grades. Good grades will come naturally if you're not taking a full load and you're taking classes you actually like! I am thrilled to take classes that I came to law school for. I am excited to learn and I am excited to not WORRY about grades from day one.
- this is coming from my personal experience. I am currently registering in only electives at my new school because I am able to focus on my career-focused classes of my choice. I do not have to follow a set curriculum. The T1 school does not care about bar related courses and prep because my new school's bar passage rate is at 93%. The T1 schools place well in jobs and have many connections in different states. No pressure for job experiences, no need to PAY to work for free. It's all up to my decision to choose courses and take on externship as I please. But also note that the T1 schools have opportunities, clinics, and programs beyond what any T2 and below school can provide. The things Ive always wanted to do, I can at my new school. It's crazy.

You're not in position to be giving this advice. You haven't taken 2L or 3L classes yet. You really have no idea. T1s aren't like t14s. The top 50+% of the class aren't getting biglaw SAs in August which allow them to give minimal effort during the year. Most of the class isn't mailing it in. Your grades after you transfer will matter. Especially if you don't get one of the biglaw SAs.

3) the people.
- people at my new school do not compete cutthroat like my T4 school because the curve is already higher (3.3) rather than 2.9, which means more As.
- the connections. It's unbelievable. I have only just begun to experience the tight knit alumni connections via social media (welcoming transfers and the like), but I have also noticed exceeding amount of attention to the T1 school in the state. The entire city and the entire state wants you as their lawyer and loves the law school. It's quite amazing coming from such a small T4 school.

There's truth to this. Going to a state flagship has a lot of benefits. The alumni network definitely helps. But while people won't be as competitive or cutthroat as your old school, don't make the mistake of thinking it's entirely gone. You'll be unpleasantly surprised.

Im thrilled to find out that I can enjoy my 2/3L at a top ranked school, where I can explore various fields and clinics. They have the best speakers (supreme court judges, for example), fortune 500 companies' lawyers as alumni, and amazing faculty. I am beyond excited. I am gloating here. I love rubbing it in your ugly anonymous faces because you all doubted me. Peace out, I won't have time or need for this forum.

And please, stop trying to undermine people just for their confidence. Maybe they actually have a reason for all that confidence. Like me.

Being confident isn't the problem. You can be confident. Hell, you can even be arrogant if you know how to mask it properly. But you were obnoxiously arrogant. That becomes problematic.

And the way you've acted since you came back kind of proves that people were right about your personality.

[rcharter1978]

Yeah lol Nony don't bother trying to engage with this concussed tumor.

@OP come back and read this thread after you get no-offered at your Third Tier Toilet.

after sorting out my acceptance letters, i have two weeks to spare before working on school stuff again

Im back on this thread to laugh at posts like this. Actually I was at a T4, I learned, but none of that matters now.
Im at a T1, where are you? In the toilet ?

I don't think I'm a spirit crusher, but I do find it odd that you're taking the time to come back to TLS to try to rub it in people's faces.

Granted, people DID ask you how it all turned out. So, I can understand taking a victory lap. But the need to go back through every post and shit talk has the fragrance of a rat. In my experience, people who have achieved something against all odds and in the face of "naysayers" are just so happy with themselves that they don't care to talk shit to anyone, because they are just so enthralled with themselves.

So, to me, its either one of three things things: 1) you're just one of those "tit-for-tat" always rub it in someone's face personalities, which sucks because that is not a personality trait anyone likes and therefore it will be difficult for you to advance in any career. 2) You're overcompensating for the fact that you didn't do as well as you wanted to and making up a story because everyone was pressuring you for an update and you wanted to save face since you were so adamant. 3) you're trolling

For your sake, I hope its either that you're overcompensating or you're trolling. There are a lot of really smart people in the world who can't get ahead because people simply don't like them. And if this is a component of your personality, people probably aren't going to like you. People almost never want to work with someone they just don't like. No matter what school you're at, you're likely fairly intelligent. So you can learn skills and the law and application the same way everyone else can. But personality is pretty set, and if you're not a likable person, thats a rough road to travel in life.

TL;DR -- Take these next two weeks and learn to be a gracious winner. It will serve you far better in life than anything else you can do in two weeks.

of course im back to rub it in. If im not back, these losers would continue to write on here claiming that I disappeared or whatnot.
Further, it's just a lot more interesting to look back on this thread knowing fully well that my "overly confident attitude" was not a facade.
It's also necessary to note for the people who doubted my potential that they (ie, you) know nothing about me or people with real confidence
i'm actually here to end the thread with a conclusion, in case future 1Ls see this thread. I want to give hope, with some result (good or bad- in this case, good).
Yes I may be a tit-for-tat rub it in the face type. Only on the internet though. I wouldnt dare do this in person. It sucks for those still in T4, my friends.
(If I hadnt gotten in? I would be too depressed to even come back to this thread in the first place.)

I am beyond excited. I am gloating here. I love rubbing it in your ugly anonymous faces because you all doubted me. Peace out, I won't have time or need for this forum.

And please, stop trying to undermine people just for their confidence. Maybe they actually have a reason for all that confidence. Like me

First off - Why the hell are you so concerned about what random people on the internet think? Again, this goes back to my point that people who succeed generally have no need to rub it in the face of anyone. Do you think Bill Gates went back to his high school to shit on everyone? Its doubtful. Do you think Oprah regularly shit talks people who didn't believe in her? Doubtful. People who have found success in spite of the odds are just so happy to have achieved their goal that they don't need to rub it in anyone's face.

Second -- Your goal of insuring that people didn't think you had just disappeared could have been resolved in your first two comments which were basically "yes, I made it into a top 20 school." There was no need to go any further for people to know that you hadn't fallen off the face of the earth.

Third -- while I might understand a victory lap, the fact that you've had to address every negative comment makes me second guess the veracity of your "transfer." Methinks the lady doth protesth too much. If you had just stuck to the first couple of statements you made just saying that you were transferring, that would have been understandable. By going overboard it makes it seem like you're just making all this up, because I truly haven't seen anyone who needs to go so above and beyond to address every single person who had reasonable doubts. I've never really witnessed anyone who has had to go above and beyond to address ANY doubts, reasonable or unreasonable.

Fourth -- your statement on confidence is ridiculous. Maybe a person with confidence is able to achieve a goal and maybe they aren't. It has less to do with confidence and more to do with ability. Nor were you confident, you were unwilling to listen to anyone....about anything.

Fifth -- you're probably more like your "internet persona" than you realize or would like to admit. Being a tit-for-tat personality is just who you are. And thats a shame, because you'll find it hard to move forward in the workplace if people simply don't like you. Just for the record "gloating" is not something that makes people want to be around you, help you, or promote you.

Sixth -- if you had real confidence you wouldn't have had to put the original post up in the first place. When people gave you feedback you gave every indication that you already knew what you needed to do. So, if you already knew what you needed to do, than why even post? Unless you were hoping for a bunch of people to basically buoy you. In which case, you didn't really have much confidence to begin with if you needed random internet posters to boost your confidence.

Seventh -- I never addressed your initial post at all, but reading through this now makes me doubt what you're saying

Eighth -- Why were you "perusing offer letters" if you had a tuition free ride at a T1 that your mother works at? That seems suspicious.

Ninth -- if you didn't make it in, I think gloating to a bunch of strangers who were pressuring you for an update would make perfect sense for someone with more ego than ability. I think that if you were super revved and wanted to let everyone know, you would have done so as soon as you got your acceptance letter, not after like 10 posts with people asking you how it went.

Either way, my advice remains the same -- in these two weeks, work on being a gracious winner, because you're not enough of a legal genius to get away with being unlikable, and right now you have the sort of personality that won't make anyone go out of their way to help or assist you.

[pancakes3]

i don't think OP is lying. he just sucks.

[Winter is Coming]

OP is an INSPIRATION, who overcame the HATERS and LOSERS, and made himself GREAT again.

Can you please update us every few years on your rise to success?

[pancakes3]

quite the meteoric rise to mediocrity

[barkschool]

OP is an INSPIRATION, who overcame the HATERS and LOSERS, and made himself GREAT again.

Can you please update us every few years on your rise to success?

motion to sticky so we know was true greatness looks like

[Clearly]

Please keep us updated on your 2L summer plans tho.

[Minnietron]

OP is an INSPIRATION, who overcame the HATERS and LOSERS, and made himself GREAT again.

Can you please update us every few years on your rise to success?

motion to sticky so we know was true greatness looks like

+1. Someone may come across this underdog story and get inspired to write the next great American novel.

[RedGiant]

Yep, had a 3.2 after 1L and was one of the top 10 kids in my class 2L year.

I moved away from large classes with curved exams to smaller classes that weren't curved. I focused on classes I was interested in--Businessy stuff.

I was super-organized and made tables of cases, flash cards, studied my buns off. Just moving away from giant 1L classes to classes that had 30 kids or less made a huge difference. Moving from issue-spotters to targeted essays, classes with papers helped.

Having more time to get my work done made a huge difference.

You can do this! Good luck!

[A. Nony Mouse]

I think the OP has already done this.

[rcharter1978]

OP is an INSPIRATION, who overcame the HATERS and LOSERS, and made himself GREAT again.

Can you please update us every few years on your rise to success?

motion to sticky so we know was true greatness looks like

+1. Someone may come across this underdog story and get inspired to write the next great American novel.

I think OP's story may be an American novel.

[barkschool]

Please keep us updated on your 2L summer plans tho.

also looking forward to the TTT -> B1G LAW, possible ONLY IF YOU WORK HARD poast

[PeanutsNJam]

Congrats for transferring from an absolutely shitty school to a mediocre school.

[rcharter1978]

Please keep us updated on your 2L summer plans tho.

also looking forward to the TTT -> B1G LAW, possible ONLY IF YOU WORK HARD poast

And have confidence....