Might actually fail the MPRE Forum

[de5igual]

omg totes gonna fail this shit (again)

[thesealocust]

Also, what percent correct do I need to get an 80?

I forget, but an 80 is well under median for test takers. These tests often have more than one right answer anyway; that's my theory for why MBE scores are so high (bottom 2% is still like 100 out of 200 points) and the questions so completely impossible (and the same company makes both).

isn't this shit supposed to be like... common sense?

Not really. A lot of it is against common sense.

I think the best way to approach problems is "what do the rules permit / require in this context" - leave common sense out of the equation entirely.

[dresden doll]

If you got 30 right, you'd probably wind up with 80+.

[09042014]

averaging 60% on DAT themis, I assume I'm cool then.

[The Duck]

These tests often have more than one right answer anyway.

Eh, I over-studied for this last year for sure...but there definitely weren't a lot of questions with more than one right answer. For all of the ones that seemed close, there was some little detail that made one right and one wrong.

FTR, I took every BarBri question online and reviewed the wrong ones, and skimmed the outline, and I scored way way higher than I needed to. I surely wasted a lot of time. You definitely don't need to study that much...but pay attention to judicial ethics because those rules aren't super intuitive and they test them heavily.

[traehekat]

8/10 on first set of barbri questions. i can go watch tv now, right?

[dresden doll]

I actually spent most of the time on judicial ethics, which then didn't get tested at all.

[traehekat]

wtf anyone else having trouble accessing barbri study software?

[StrawberryRed89]

wtf anyone else having trouble accessing barbri study software?

yes. can access the lecture but not the practice tests.

[Gamecubesupreme]

I actually spent most of the time on judicial ethics, which then didn't get tested at all.

Barbri guide said they are tested 6-10% of the time.

In terms of highly tested topics, here is what I have:

Regulation of the Legal Profession (8-12%)
Client-Lawyer Relationship (10-14%)
Privilege and Confidentiality (6-10%)
Independent Professional Judgment-Conflicts of Interest (12-16%)
Competence, Legal Malpractice, and Other Civil Liability (8-12%)
Litigation and Other Forms of Advocacy (12-16%)
Different Roles of Lawyers (4-8%)
Safekeeping Property and Funds of Client and Others (4-8%)
Communications About Legal Services (6-10%)
Lawyers and the Legal System (2-6%)
Judicial Ethics (6-10%)

Take that as you will.

[traehekat]

wtf anyone else having trouble accessing barbri study software?

yes. can access the lecture but not the practice tests.

ugh probably could expected this.

[thesealocust]

Might not be ideal, but all you need to pass the exam: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... tents.html (plus the judicial rules, which are also definitely online somewhere)

[09042014]

Might not be ideal, but all you need to pass the exam: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... tents.html (plus the judicial rules, which are also definitely online somewhere)

I'm just going to guess on the judicial rules.

[Gamecubesupreme]

Might not be ideal, but all you need to pass the exam: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... tents.html (plus the judicial rules, which are also definitely online somewhere)

This one is better, as you can see all the rules on one page:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/aba/c ... M#Preamble

[traehekat]

Might not be ideal, but all you need to pass the exam: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... tents.html (plus the judicial rules, which are also definitely online somewhere)

I'm just going to guess on the judicial rules.

[The Duck]

Might not be ideal, but all you need to pass the exam: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... tents.html (plus the judicial rules, which are also definitely online somewhere)

I'm just going to guess on the judicial rules.

Eh, that's a good number of questions and they aren't intuitive. E.g. can a judge serve on the board of a social organization dedicated to enhancing the legal community. It's only like 5 pages in the BarBri outline...

[09042014]

My test center is right smack dab in the murdercapital of chicago. Fuuuuuuuck

[traehekat]

My test center is right smack dab in the murdercapital of chicago. Fuuuuuuuck

You got Englewood too, huh?

[09042014]

My test center is right smack dab in the murdercapital of chicago. Fuuuuuuuck

You got Englewood too, huh?

Yep. Whose bright idea is this. Exactly zero law students live anywhere near that testing location.

[JusticeHarlan]

themis

Prole.

[09042014]

Lol some ones car was broken into before the test even started!

50/50 chance I passed.

[ehshornet]

I thought the Barbri practice tests were a little harder than the exam - which is good; it forced me to be on my game and not at ease. There were a few questions where I was uncertain of what the correct answer was on today's exam, but overall I thought the exam was fair!

When they say 5 weeks, it is it really 5 or more like 4? Do we know when results came out last year for the November exam?

[somewhatwayward]

fuuuuuck

i agree that the BarBri questions were harder (for one thing, they took longer to read overall, which sucks up time), but even though i completed 220 of the 240 BarBri practice questions with ~75% accuracy, there was still a lot on the test today that i was unsure about

i'd give myself 50/50 as well

[traehekat]

yeah probably failed.

[barestin]

Would it help if I was really unethical and just picked the answer opposite of what I would actually do?