1L Spring Grades Waiting Room Forum

[r6_philly]

What is admittedly good about word counts is that they are more fair because they don't favor people who can just type really fast. One of the reasons I don't like it is because I can type fast and it is a huge advantage. But I would still like a reasonable word count for a three hour exams. Between say 2500-3000.

Also we have other grades back but no LRW still and it is a bit frustrating because the last assignment was due almost two months ago. <_<

I actually think it should be 24 hour take home open book, or at least 8 hours. It's more like what we do in practice. It advantage people who can learn issues thoroughly and put together a good answer.

You act like when you're practicing you never have meetings with clients where they ask you a question and expect a reasonably high quality response on the spot. Between meetings like that and phone conversations with clients, it isn't that strange to want to test being able to come up with stuff on the spot.

Also, this is based on a huge assumption that tests are/should be similar to practicing law.

A reasonably high quality response should generally be followed up with "let me check into that to confirm." Then you call your associates to do the research and return with a high quality memo. then you call your client back to report the findings.

There is no assumption also. It's my opinion that it should.

[jarofsoup]

My school is going to be almost a week over there stated deadline in releasing grades. Should I bitch?

[thelaststraw05]

My school is going to be almost a week over there stated deadline in releasing grades. Should I bitch?

Yes. But not at professors. Email the registrar just to ask where they are in their process. You want the registrar bugging the profs rather than you.

[jarofsoup]

My school is going to be almost a week over there stated deadline in releasing grades. Should I bitch?

Yes. But not at professors. Email the registrar just to ask where they are in their process. You want the registrar bugging the profs rather than you.

How do you like Michigan? I am nervous about grades because I would like to transfer schools and I am terrified of dropping in rank.

[$peppercorn]

Just got my grades. 3 A's, A-, and B. Extremely happy. Now to get these transfer apps out ASAP

[thelaststraw05]

My school is going to be almost a week over there stated deadline in releasing grades. Should I bitch?

Yes. But not at professors. Email the registrar just to ask where they are in their process. You want the registrar bugging the profs rather than you.

How do you like Michigan? I am nervous about grades because I would like to transfer schools and I am terrified of dropping in rank.

I like it, but if you want more information I'd go over to http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 4&t=106319

Any questions will be better dealt with there instead of in this thread. Keg411 can deal with transfer questions that I can't.

[thelaststraw05]

Ugh.

My first two grades were great. I got bumped from a 3.2 up to a 3.32. Then my final grade, the exam I felt best about, was my worst grade. Dropped me back to a 3.27. Wouldn't matter too much, except that I'm bidding DC.

[3|ink]

Totally fucked:

A-, 2 B+s and a B- for a median semester GPA. Went from a 3.76 to a 3.5.

[splitmuch]

Totally fucked:

A-, 2 B+s and a B- for a median semester GPA. Went from a 3.76 to a 3.5.

Thats a high median uh...where do you go?

[thelaststraw05]

Totally fucked:

A-, 2 B+s and a B- for a median semester GPA. Went from a 3.76 to a 3.5.

Thats a high median uh...where do you go?

It isn't that high a median. His median GPA this semester was about a 3.24 if it moved his 3.76 to a 3.5.

[Tanicius]

I have classmates in other sections that have all their grades. Still not a single grade from mine. Figured they'd have to have something done by this Friday. Guess not.

[splitmuch]

Totally fucked:

A-, 2 B+s and a B- for a median semester GPA. Went from a 3.76 to a 3.5.

Thats a high median uh...where do you go?

It isn't that high a median. His median GPA this semester was about a 3.24 if it moved his 3.76 to a 3.5.

Right, and I constantly hear that Northwestern has a generous curve due to its 3.3 median...I really just wanted to know if my grades were released

[tedalbany]

Ugh... all these gpa slips are scaring the shit out of me.

[birdlaw117]

What is admittedly good about word counts is that they are more fair because they don't favor people who can just type really fast. One of the reasons I don't like it is because I can type fast and it is a huge advantage. But I would still like a reasonable word count for a three hour exams. Between say 2500-3000.

Also we have other grades back but no LRW still and it is a bit frustrating because the last assignment was due almost two months ago. <_<

I actually think it should be 24 hour take home open book, or at least 8 hours. It's more like what we do in practice. It advantage people who can learn issues thoroughly and put together a good answer.

You act like when you're practicing you never have meetings with clients where they ask you a question and expect a reasonably high quality response on the spot. Between meetings like that and phone conversations with clients, it isn't that strange to want to test being able to come up with stuff on the spot.

Also, this is based on a huge assumption that tests are/should be similar to practicing law.

A reasonably high quality response should generally be followed up with "let me check into that to confirm." Then you call your associates to do the research and return with a high quality memo. then you call your client back to report the findings.

There is no assumption also. It's my opinion that it should.

Even though it's your opinion, that doesn't mean it isn't an assumption. It's not like exams in other areas of education are very good at testing quality of professional service. Hell, professional certification exams aren't very good at it.

And to address the original point, it may be professionally responsible to do that regardless, but your client is going to want a real answer on the spot and you don't want to have to call them back saying you were wrong before. Do that regularly and you'll surely lose business.

[Tanicius]

Even though it's your opinion, that doesn't mean it isn't an assumption. It's not like exams in other areas of education are very good at testing quality of professional service. Hell, professional certification exams aren't very good at it.

And to address the original point, it may be professionally responsible to do that regardless, but your client is going to want a real answer on the spot and you don't want to have to call them back saying you were wrong before. Do that regularly and you'll surely lose business.

You guys are seriously arguing about whether it's normal to take upwards of a day to research something that is complicated enough to require research? It is.

[birdlaw117]

Even though it's your opinion, that doesn't mean it isn't an assumption. It's not like exams in other areas of education are very good at testing quality of professional service. Hell, professional certification exams aren't very good at it.

And to address the original point, it may be professionally responsible to do that regardless, but your client is going to want a real answer on the spot and you don't want to have to call them back saying you were wrong before. Do that regularly and you'll surely lose business.

You guys are seriously arguing about whether it's normal to take upwards of a day to research something that is complicated enough to require research? It is.

Sweet tautology brah.

And that's not the point at issue at all.

[clone22]

fuck crimlaw and that B+. just missing the grade-on cutoff now. is it "fml" if I really don't want to do the journal work?

[3|ink]

Totally fucked:

A-, 2 B+s and a B- for a median semester GPA. Went from a 3.76 to a 3.5.

Thats a high median uh...where do you go?

It isn't that high a median. His median GPA this semester was about a 3.24 if it moved his 3.76 to a 3.5.

3.28

I think the median is slightly lower.

Still. FUCK.

[PinkCow]

*EDIT: I'm sorry for this unabashed bragging. I had to tell someone, and random folks on the internets seemed like a good choice.

[HeavenWood]

Totally fucked:

A-, 2 B+s and a B- for a median semester GPA. Went from a 3.76 to a 3.5.

Thats a high median uh...where do you go?

It isn't that high a median. His median GPA this semester was about a 3.24 if it moved his 3.76 to a 3.5.

3.28

I think the median is slightly lower.

Still. FUCK.

Are things looking that bad at GMU? A 3.5 would be what, top third-ish?

[MrPapagiorgio]

Barring an A in my last two classes, looks like I won't be grading onto LR. Was really hoping to not have to read this write on packet.

[LeDique]

I wish my school did grade-on to LR. I just said fuck it and submitted the thing I'm calling my write-on submission.

Got 2 grades so far. Thought I had done horribly this semester, but already pulled off 2 A's. I'll take an A- and B+ (median) the rest of the way and be thrilled.

ETA: I still don't understand how our legal writing prof's haven't finished grades yet. We were done with that class in mid-April. WTF have they been doing?

[fatduck]

What is admittedly good about word counts is that they are more fair because they don't favor people who can just type really fast. One of the reasons I don't like it is because I can type fast and it is a huge advantage. But I would still like a reasonable word count for a three hour exams. Between say 2500-3000.

man, i type close to 200 wpm and i love word-limited exams - i like that i have an incentive to turn in my best arguments, not the most arguments. i also feel like it makes outlining less important, and i hate outlining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nI1DrESRQw

i think this was about 170 on typeracer. my max is probably around 180.

[AZN MegaPoaster]

What is admittedly good about word counts is that they are more fair because they don't favor people who can just type really fast. One of the reasons I don't like it is because I can type fast and it is a huge advantage. But I would still like a reasonable word count for a three hour exams. Between say 2500-3000.

man, i type close to 200 wpm and i love word-limited exams - i like that i have an incentive to turn in my best arguments, not the most arguments. i also feel like it makes outlining less important, and i hate outlining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nI1DrESRQw

i think this was about 170 on typeracer. my max is probably around 180.

lol wtf why should we believe that is 170 wpm

[fatduck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nI1DrESRQw

i think this was about 170 on typeracer. my max is probably around 180.

lol wtf why should we believe that is 170 wpm

from the movement of the keyboard, obviously