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- goosey
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oh but in happy news..10k of my shcolarship was need-based and I got that entire 10k for next year
so as long as I dont SCREW up and lose my scholarship, I am going to law school for free again. wooot

- romothesavior
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Between con law and crim law, there is no way I keep my GPA where it is. I'm doomed in at least one of those classes. So long OCI jobs.
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The more I practice crim, the more I think this.romothesavior wrote:Between con law and crim law, there is no way I keep my GPA where it is. I'm doomed in at least one of those classes. So long OCI jobs.
- uwb09
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romothesavior wrote:Between con law andcrim lawPROPERTY, there is no way I keep my GPA where it is. I'm doomed in at least one of those classes. So long OCI jobs.
- Gamecubesupreme
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Just found out my Property prof pretty much won't be testing us on RAP after I spent an entire day on that material yesterday.
FML.
FML.
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- Charles Barkley
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I have one day to learn statutory interpretation. 

- Charles Barkley
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Oh and fuck you Con Law. Fuck you in the ass.
I feel better now.
I feel better now.
- Gamecubesupreme
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I have a feeling the role will be reversed on test day.Charles Barkley wrote:Oh and fuck you Con Law. Fuck you in the ass.
I feel better now.
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Test day was today (for me at least) 

- MBZags
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How the shit do you prepare for a MC Con Law exam?
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Discuss if sodomy between a doctrinal class and a man is a fundamental right.Charles Barkley wrote:Oh and fuck you Con Law. Fuck you in the ass.
I feel better now.
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MBZags wrote:How the shit do you prepare for a MC Con Law exam?
We can help each other out...uzpakalis wrote:
con law, lexis nexis Q & A - $21.99
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NarwhalPunter wrote:This. I'm one of those at the top, and things just don't feel the same coming out of an exam this semester. It's as if I just didn't learn the law as well as I should have. Meanwhile, everyone below the top 15% or so seems to feel great about everything.maf70 wrote:Everyone seems MORE confident coming out of exams this semester at my school..except the people at the top who seem scared out of their minds.mbusch22 wrote:It's at least comforting that a lot of us feel like this though. I'm happy I added some major padding last semester.BarbellDreams wrote:I feel like I am waiving good bye to my GPA every damn day.
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Can I join?? My GPA is going, going, GOOOONNNNEEE! I actually enjoyed OCI interviews while they lasted.....It's not looking so hot for 2L OCI though.uzpakalis wrote:NarwhalPunter wrote:This. I'm one of those at the top, and things just don't feel the same coming out of an exam this semester. It's as if I just didn't learn the law as well as I should have. Meanwhile, everyone below the top 15% or so seems to feel great about everything.maf70 wrote:Everyone seems MORE confident coming out of exams this semester at my school..except the people at the top who seem scared out of their minds.BarbellDreams wrote:I feel like I am waiving good bye to my GPA every damn day.
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It's because we feel hunted. Remember sharks and minnows in elementary school? Being the minnow was sheer terror. Once you got tagged and were a shark it was awesome!uzpakalis wrote:NarwhalPunter wrote:This. I'm one of those at the top, and things just don't feel the same coming out of an exam this semester. It's as if I just didn't learn the law as well as I should have. Meanwhile, everyone below the top 15% or so seems to feel great about everything.maf70 wrote:Everyone seems MORE confident coming out of exams this semester at my school..except the people at the top who seem scared out of their minds.mbusch22 wrote:
It's at least comforting that a lot of us feel like this though. I'm happy I added some major padding last semester.
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oh. damn.goosey wrote: why what did i do
what I meant what "I feel like Rurik and Goosey. Also I hate you Transpher. So so much >:O " (Agreeing with the feeling of impending doom, and grumbling about someone feeling confident)
Sorry, my brain died after last semester.
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On the plus side, I feel better since I'm not the only one expecting impending doom and a major GPA drop
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Been working on Crim PT's and they are really well-written with a lot of small issues that can make a huge difference between an A and a B. It's definitely going to be the type of exam you can walk out of thinking it's "easy" and then miss a huge amount of stuff.

Been working on Crim PT's and they are really well-written with a lot of small issues that can make a huge difference between an A and a B. It's definitely going to be the type of exam you can walk out of thinking it's "easy" and then miss a huge amount of stuff.
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- NoleinNY
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Property exam tomorrow. Distilling notes, outline and supplement information into one, 3 page "plan-of-attack outline." It's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses.
Hit it.
Hit it.
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does anyone have some general strategies for attacking big, complex civ pro exams? any sort of 10-12 step checklist or something out there? thanks all!
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This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Property in 11.5 hours. Last exam of 1L.
Property in 11.5 hours. Last exam of 1L.
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I am almost done with my K's outline...exam on Monday. can someone please make me feel better and tell me I can learn enough of this to get a good grade.
closed book, insane issue-spotter [about 100 issues on each exam, top grade gets 2/3 of them]
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- traehekat
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from what it sounds like, you have plenty of time compared to most people.goosey wrote:I am almost done with my K's outline...exam on Monday. can someone please make me feel better and tell me I can learn enough of this to get a good grade.
closed book, insane issue-spotter [about 100 issues on each exam, top grade gets 2/3 of them]
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First exam, Property, in 12.5 hours.
Goodbye, GPA. Hello unemployment.
Last time I'll ask, I suppose:
Anyone have any good attack charts for easements?
Goodbye, GPA. Hello unemployment.
Last time I'll ask, I suppose:
Anyone have any good attack charts for easements?
- Charles Barkley
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On the one hand, the Court has recognized a right to sexual intimacy (Lawrence)... On the other hand, at its most narrow level of abstraction, the right to fuck a doctrinal class in the ass is not historically protected...Desert Fox wrote:Discuss if sodomy between a doctrinal class and a man is a fundamental right.Charles Barkley wrote:Oh and fuck you Con Law. Fuck you in the ass.
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This is more of an attack outline than a chart but hope it helps -
Easements must be in writing UNLESS:
EASEMENT BY ESTOPPEL: An easement by estoppel or an irrevocable license is created when:
(1) There is a license (explicit or implicit) to use the property;
(2) Licensee exercises privilege under license to improve or to make substantial expenditures in reliance on the license continuing; and
(3) Affirmative consent or acquiescence by servient tenement owner.
IMPLIED EASEMENT FROM PRIOR AND APPARENT CONTINUING USE: The conveyance of a quasi-dominant tenement vests an implied easement in the grantee if at the time of the grant, the easement is
(1) Apparent (not necessarily visibleif other circumstances make its existence obvious, e.g. toiletsewer);
(2) Continuous; and
(3) Necessary (if land can only be used w/o easement by expending “disproportionate expense and effort”).
• MINORITY: Strict necessity for reservations in favor of grantor: some courts require that the easement be of strict necessity where the easement is not in writing and is supposed to benefit the grantor.
o MAJORITY: Only reasonable necessity is required for all implied easements.
IMPLIED EASEMENT BY NECESSITY: To find that an easement has been implied by necessity, one must prove:
(1) That there was a unity of ownership of the alleged dominant and servient estates;
(2) That the roadway is a necessity, not a mere convenience; AND
(3) The necessity existed at the time of severance of the two estates.
• Degree of necessity required: Most courts require strict necessity (no other way out, regardless of difficulty or cost of creating an exit – e.g., cliff leading from land to road). Burden on claimant!
o Need privity b/w parties
EASEMENT BY PRESCRIPTION: To have an easement by prescription, claimant must prove use was:
(1) Hostile and adverse; (permissive use negates this element. Othen.)
(2) Continuous for statutory period; (owner can interrupt the period of continuous use to stop prescription from occurring).
(3) Exclusive (most states say servient owner can also use);
Termination of easements:(
1) Written release: owner of an easement can terminate easement through written instrument.
(2) Expiration: occurs if either (1) expiration date written into easement; or (2) by occurrence of some event (defeasible easements); or (3) necessity giving rise to easement by necessity ends.
(3) Merger: if easement owner becomes owner of the servient estate.
(4) Estoppel: if servient owner reasonably relies upon statement or representation by easement owner.
(5) Prescription: if servient owner adversely/wrongfully blocks access to the easement for a certain period of time, servient owner attains easement property basically by adverse possession. (Dom. owner can sue.)
(6) Abandonment: requires (1) substantial period of nonuse; and (2) intent not to begin use again; (3) some states require non-use for a statutory period of time.
(7) Condemnation of servient property by gov’t: gov’t exercises eminent domain power to take title to a fee interest in the servient estate for a purpose inconsistent w/continued existence of easement.
MODIFICATIONS: Traditionally, courts cannot modify easements as they are a valid interest in property.
• Changed conditions doctrine (think: frustration of purpose): Some courts (and RTP) will modify or terminate easement if conditions change such that continued existence of current easement is impossible.
o Trend toward flexibility in allowing modifications.
RECIPROCAL NEGATIVE EASEMENT: Restrictions on property become reciprocal if:
(1) Original common owner (owner subdivides his own property so as two properties bear relation);
(2) Sale of lot comes w/restrictions that benefit retained property;
(3) In order for burden to pass on to subsequent purchasers, subsequent purchaser must have either actual or constructive notice of the burden.
• Constructive/Inquiry Notice: by witnessing “general plan” of the neighborhood, Δ’s should have been on inquiry notice (to inquire further about nature of grant) and should have discovered restrictions.
EQUITABLE SERVITUDES/CONVENANT IN EQUITY: When a covenant cannot legally be enforced, the court can create a new interest as an equitable servitude against subsequent purchasers if:
(1) Original parties intend for the burden and benefits to run;
(2) Purchaser has notice (actual or constructive); and
(3) Covenant touches and concerns the land.
Easements must be in writing UNLESS:
EASEMENT BY ESTOPPEL: An easement by estoppel or an irrevocable license is created when:
(1) There is a license (explicit or implicit) to use the property;
(2) Licensee exercises privilege under license to improve or to make substantial expenditures in reliance on the license continuing; and
(3) Affirmative consent or acquiescence by servient tenement owner.
IMPLIED EASEMENT FROM PRIOR AND APPARENT CONTINUING USE: The conveyance of a quasi-dominant tenement vests an implied easement in the grantee if at the time of the grant, the easement is
(1) Apparent (not necessarily visibleif other circumstances make its existence obvious, e.g. toiletsewer);
(2) Continuous; and
(3) Necessary (if land can only be used w/o easement by expending “disproportionate expense and effort”).
• MINORITY: Strict necessity for reservations in favor of grantor: some courts require that the easement be of strict necessity where the easement is not in writing and is supposed to benefit the grantor.
o MAJORITY: Only reasonable necessity is required for all implied easements.
IMPLIED EASEMENT BY NECESSITY: To find that an easement has been implied by necessity, one must prove:
(1) That there was a unity of ownership of the alleged dominant and servient estates;
(2) That the roadway is a necessity, not a mere convenience; AND
(3) The necessity existed at the time of severance of the two estates.
• Degree of necessity required: Most courts require strict necessity (no other way out, regardless of difficulty or cost of creating an exit – e.g., cliff leading from land to road). Burden on claimant!
o Need privity b/w parties
EASEMENT BY PRESCRIPTION: To have an easement by prescription, claimant must prove use was:
(1) Hostile and adverse; (permissive use negates this element. Othen.)
(2) Continuous for statutory period; (owner can interrupt the period of continuous use to stop prescription from occurring).
(3) Exclusive (most states say servient owner can also use);
Termination of easements:(
1) Written release: owner of an easement can terminate easement through written instrument.
(2) Expiration: occurs if either (1) expiration date written into easement; or (2) by occurrence of some event (defeasible easements); or (3) necessity giving rise to easement by necessity ends.
(3) Merger: if easement owner becomes owner of the servient estate.
(4) Estoppel: if servient owner reasonably relies upon statement or representation by easement owner.
(5) Prescription: if servient owner adversely/wrongfully blocks access to the easement for a certain period of time, servient owner attains easement property basically by adverse possession. (Dom. owner can sue.)
(6) Abandonment: requires (1) substantial period of nonuse; and (2) intent not to begin use again; (3) some states require non-use for a statutory period of time.
(7) Condemnation of servient property by gov’t: gov’t exercises eminent domain power to take title to a fee interest in the servient estate for a purpose inconsistent w/continued existence of easement.
MODIFICATIONS: Traditionally, courts cannot modify easements as they are a valid interest in property.
• Changed conditions doctrine (think: frustration of purpose): Some courts (and RTP) will modify or terminate easement if conditions change such that continued existence of current easement is impossible.
o Trend toward flexibility in allowing modifications.
RECIPROCAL NEGATIVE EASEMENT: Restrictions on property become reciprocal if:
(1) Original common owner (owner subdivides his own property so as two properties bear relation);
(2) Sale of lot comes w/restrictions that benefit retained property;
(3) In order for burden to pass on to subsequent purchasers, subsequent purchaser must have either actual or constructive notice of the burden.
• Constructive/Inquiry Notice: by witnessing “general plan” of the neighborhood, Δ’s should have been on inquiry notice (to inquire further about nature of grant) and should have discovered restrictions.
EQUITABLE SERVITUDES/CONVENANT IN EQUITY: When a covenant cannot legally be enforced, the court can create a new interest as an equitable servitude against subsequent purchasers if:
(1) Original parties intend for the burden and benefits to run;
(2) Purchaser has notice (actual or constructive); and
(3) Covenant touches and concerns the land.
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