Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester Forum
- A'nold
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
I think I sooked on my property final just now. However, it was freaking hard, and I doubt others did very well either, so we'll see.
The MC section was likely the hardest I've ever taken in my life, and I excell on MC tests (except for the LSAT). I mean, often times it came down to two answers and brought in things we never studies or that were in small notes at the end of chapters and hinged on like the word "a" or "all" and then the two answers were completely different depending on your interpretation of "a" or "all." Sad thing is that it wasn't like the LSAT "all" kind of inclusive or not analysis, it came down to whether or not you thought that the professor meant to put that word or not. Hard to choose in that case, just have to go with the assumption that he/she meant to put a subtle word in there that changes everything, even in a 1 paragraph hypo. Harder than crap.
The MC section was likely the hardest I've ever taken in my life, and I excell on MC tests (except for the LSAT). I mean, often times it came down to two answers and brought in things we never studies or that were in small notes at the end of chapters and hinged on like the word "a" or "all" and then the two answers were completely different depending on your interpretation of "a" or "all." Sad thing is that it wasn't like the LSAT "all" kind of inclusive or not analysis, it came down to whether or not you thought that the professor meant to put that word or not. Hard to choose in that case, just have to go with the assumption that he/she meant to put a subtle word in there that changes everything, even in a 1 paragraph hypo. Harder than crap.
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
See. You do know something.OperaSoprano wrote:There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...)
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
<3Leeroy Jenkins wrote:See. You do know something.OperaSoprano wrote:There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...)
- mikeytwoshoes
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Law Review packet ftw!Matthies wrote:Three things:
1- You don't know how you really did until grades come out
2- No good will come of thinking you did badly
3- Worry about the things you can control in the future and not the things you can't in the past
If your done with exams, stop thinking about them and go do something fun.
- arhmcpo
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Misread a Discovery question on Civ Pro exam. Apparently when your'e speed reading on a racehorse examine, a question about RFA's can easily be treated as a question on ROGS.... FML
I am officially screwed with 2 finals to go

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- mikeytwoshoes
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
One issue won't kill your grade. Go study for your next exam.arhmcpo wrote:Misread a Discovery question on Civ Pro exam. Apparently when your'e speed reading on a racehorse examine, a question about RFA's can easily be treated as a question on ROGS.... FMLI am officially screwed with 2 finals to go
- flhealth
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
OMG! you did better than everyone...except K.H.....lol...jkrbgrocio wrote:vanwinkle wrote:The goal of finals is not to not mess up. It's just to mess up less than your classmates. If you managed that much, you've won.rbgrocio wrote:Why do I need to study all semester long to mess up during finals?
I know that but I still messed up!!! and i feel bad when i put effort and do poorly.
- rayiner
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Our property professor didn't care about the difference. Easements weren't even on the exam, LOL.OperaSoprano wrote:I can't believe so many people are finished, or nearly so. My classmates and I don't even start til Wednesday. My study partner and I are hammering out property over dosas. Our professor really cares about cases, to our great chagrin, so we're trying to quiz ourselves on Loretto and Feist and Braschi and Shelley v. Kraemer. Now she's asking me the difference between negative easements and equitable servitudes, but my mind won't function. This is not some minor policy point. There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...)
T-44 hours, roughly speaking.
- apper123
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
fyi:
all you guys who did well last semester and are fearful you did terrible this semester?
you probably did. you all got over-confident and slacked off or you focused on the worng things. your feelings of impending doom and/or inevitable failure are very much real. your belief that you bombed exams and your anxiety over identified missed issues or poor application of law, while EXACTLY THE SAME as the feelings you had first semester, are actually real now.
you should fear not only fear itself but also bad grades, striking out at OCI, bombing your GPA, losing your class rank and living forever in a life of squalor, poverty and indebtedness while whoring yourself out on the streets to make the minimum payments necessary for your loans. you will lose your family if you already have one and won't ever get one if you don't because you will be tattooed with "did great first semester; did horrible second" right on your forehead and no one, not your children, wife or parents, will ever be able to look you in the eyes again. everyone will know what failures you are. you may as well give up now.
abandon all hope ye who submit exams.
all you guys who did well last semester and are fearful you did terrible this semester?
you probably did. you all got over-confident and slacked off or you focused on the worng things. your feelings of impending doom and/or inevitable failure are very much real. your belief that you bombed exams and your anxiety over identified missed issues or poor application of law, while EXACTLY THE SAME as the feelings you had first semester, are actually real now.
you should fear not only fear itself but also bad grades, striking out at OCI, bombing your GPA, losing your class rank and living forever in a life of squalor, poverty and indebtedness while whoring yourself out on the streets to make the minimum payments necessary for your loans. you will lose your family if you already have one and won't ever get one if you don't because you will be tattooed with "did great first semester; did horrible second" right on your forehead and no one, not your children, wife or parents, will ever be able to look you in the eyes again. everyone will know what failures you are. you may as well give up now.
abandon all hope ye who submit exams.
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- mac.empress
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
/selfapper123 wrote:fyi:
all you guys who did well last semester and are fearful you did terrible this semester?
you probably did. you all got over-confident and slacked off or you focused on the worng things. your feelings of impending doom and/or inevitable failure are very much real. your belief that you bombed exams and your anxiety over identified missed issues or poor application of law, while EXACTLY THE SAME as the feelings you had first semester, are actually real now.
you should fear not only fear itself but also bad grades, striking out at OCI, bombing your GPA, losing your class rank and living forever in a life of squalor, poverty and indebtedness while whoring yourself out on the streets to make the minimum payments necessary for your loans. you will lose your family if you already have one and won't ever get one if you don't because you will be tattooed with "did great first semester; did horrible second" right on your forehead and no one, not your children, wife or parents, will ever be able to look you in the eyes again. everyone will know what failures you are. you may as well give up now.
abandon all hope ye who submit exams.
News story: Girl hangs self from shower with elastic band.
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
flhealth wrote:OMG! you did better than everyone...except K.H.....lol...jkrbgrocio wrote:vanwinkle wrote:The goal of finals is not to not mess up. It's just to mess up less than your classmates. If you managed that much, you've won.rbgrocio wrote:Why do I need to study all semester long to mess up during finals?
I know that but I still messed up!!! and i feel bad when i put effort and do poorly.
I know she probably did better than I did. And I know a lot of people did better than I did. I'm not expecting more than a C+-B-.... This semester's finals are killing me.
- flhealth
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
property? more like pooperty.
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- rbgrocio
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
flhealth wrote:property? more like pooperty.
lol.... I think is whoever had the better guess.
- OperaSoprano
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Lucky you! Well, we won't have any RAP, and minimal future estates, or so I hear, so we have to be tested on something. I'm mainly afraid that I'll disappoint the people I care about...rayiner wrote:Our property professor didn't care about the difference. Easements weren't even on the exam, LOL.OperaSoprano wrote:I can't believe so many people are finished, or nearly so. My classmates and I don't even start til Wednesday. My study partner and I are hammering out property over dosas. Our professor really cares about cases, to our great chagrin, so we're trying to quiz ourselves on Loretto and Feist and Braschi and Shelley v. Kraemer. Now she's asking me the difference between negative easements and equitable servitudes, but my mind won't function. This is not some minor policy point. There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...)
T-44 hours, roughly speaking.
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OperaSoprano wrote:Lucky you! Well, we won't have any RAP, and minimal future estates, or so I hear, so we have to be tested on something. I'm mainly afraid that I'll disappoint the people I care about...rayiner wrote:Our property professor didn't care about the difference. Easements weren't even on the exam, LOL.OperaSoprano wrote:I can't believe so many people are finished, or nearly so. My classmates and I don't even start til Wednesday. My study partner and I are hammering out property over dosas. Our professor really cares about cases, to our great chagrin, so we're trying to quiz ourselves on Loretto and Feist and Braschi and Shelley v. Kraemer. Now she's asking me the difference between negative easements and equitable servitudes, but my mind won't function. This is not some minor policy point. There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...)
T-44 hours, roughly speaking.
Our property final didn't have future interests, tenancies, RAP, Shelley, Merger, Equitable servitudes, adverse posession or covenants. ! lol.... I need to retake property if I want to pass that section of the BAR.
We were only tested on the covenant of quite enjoyment, the warranty of habitability, deeds, mortgages and concurrent estates.
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
I have to keep going... This is just like getting into Fordham was. There isn't another option.betasteve wrote:If someone would be disappointed in you over a grade, given how much you've worked, then they aren't really worth caring about.OperaSoprano wrote:Lucky you! Well, we won't have any RAP, and minimal future estates, or so I hear, so we have to be tested on something. I'm mainly afraid that I'll disappoint the people I care about...rayiner wrote:Our property professor didn't care about the difference. Easements weren't even on the exam, LOL.OperaSoprano wrote:I can't believe so many people are finished, or nearly so. My classmates and I don't even start til Wednesday. My study partner and I are hammering out property over dosas. Our professor really cares about cases, to our great chagrin, so we're trying to quiz ourselves on Loretto and Feist and Braschi and Shelley v. Kraemer. Now she's asking me the difference between negative easements and equitable servitudes, but my mind won't function. This is not some minor policy point. There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...)
T-44 hours, roughly speaking.
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- Matthies
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Welcome to the Bar Exam MCs, they are ALL like that, every single damn one of them, your lucky is you can elimante even one for the 4 asnwers as likley being wrongA'nold wrote:The MC section was likely the hardest I've ever taken in my life, and I excell on MC tests (except for the LSAT). I mean, often times it came down to two answers and brought in things we never studies or that were in small notes at the end of chapters and hinged on like the word "a" or "all" and then the two answers were completely different depending on your interpretation of "a" or "all." Sad thing is that it wasn't like the LSAT "all" kind of inclusive or not analysis, it came down to whether or not you thought that the professor meant to put that word or not. Hard to choose in that case, just have to go with the assumption that he/she meant to put a subtle word in there that changes everything, even in a 1 paragraph hypo. Harder than crap.
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
One exam left. Just one.
SupplemenTTTal jurisdiction, LET'S DO IT.
SupplemenTTTal jurisdiction, LET'S DO IT.
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
OperaSoprano wrote: There is literally no property in my brain! (At least not according to Moore v. Regents...).

I almost didn't catch that!
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Decided to compress all of my useful advice and experience into one thread for the 0Ls: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=117375
If anybody feels like vouching for me and my methods, it would be [strike]funny[/strike] helpful for all the 0ls!
If anybody feels like vouching for me and my methods, it would be [strike]funny[/strike] helpful for all the 0ls!
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[reads responses to thread]
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I love you guys. Seriously.
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Done with Pro Ro...until the MPRE in August. I'll have to learn the rules by then.
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omg property was hard.
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You have my sword.disco_barred wrote:If anybody feels like vouching for me and my methods, it would be [strike]funny[/strike] helpful for all the 0ls!
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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