Possible my school grouped our class sections by LSAT/GPA? Forum

[moneybagsphd]

http://www.wcl.american.edu/finaid/pipsscholarship.cfm
here it is for anyone interested

What I find amazing about that is not that a certain special scholarship requires that it be repaid (which, let's face it, is a little shitty... then again if you're going there on a PI scholarship it's not like you were expecting to make bank upon graduation -- you were expecting to do PI), but rather this little nugget:

"a scholar who chooses to withdraw or transfer from the law school will be required to pay back the full amount of tuition . . . plus any other WCL grants or scholarships."

So by accepting the PI scholarship, you add the same repayment stipulation to all your other scholarships.

Is this contract even enforceable?

[moneybagsphd]

You got a 2.6 GPA in a CJ major. You scored in the 140's on the LSAT. You seem to think you will be top 10% of your potentially-section-stacking TTTT.

You should drop out.

ETA: seriously.

If there was section stacking, what are the implications of it?

Straight answer somebody, please.

Isn't it obvious? If your school is section stacking, more people will lose their scholarships.
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[hiima3L]

You got a 2.6 GPA in a CJ major. You scored in the 140's on the LSAT. You seem to think you will be top 10% of your potentially-section-stacking TTTT.

You should drop out.

ETA: seriously.

If there was section stacking, what are the implications of it?

Straight answer somebody, please.

Is this really that hard to figure out?

The biggest, and most probable implication, is that a lot of people who went to your scam law school are facing a much greater possibility that they will lose their scholarships if there weren't section stacking.

I went to a T1 and had a prof who taught at the local TTTT. She explained it simply: An A at the TTTT would probably be a B- at my T1. So if you're in the stacked section, you're at the unfair disadvantage that your B- might have been an A in the other section.

As for class rank, law school performance has a lot of variables, but that's generally because there isn't a significant range of GPAs/LSAT scores in most law school classes. But your odds are, in theory, always the same. In general, the higher your LSAT, the more likely you are to succeed in law school. So if your section is stacked with mostly, say, 160+ scorers, whereas the other section is stacked with mostly mouthbreather 140s scorers, the odds of getting, say, top 10% are still theoretically the same--10% chance. But the quality of work and effort required to produce it will probably be greater. Vice versa for the latter section. And if there were a mix of the two groups of students, the odds would necessarily be the same in theory, but the playing field would be more equal.

TL;DR Drop out immediately. Any TTTT is not worth it nowadays, even if it's free.

[WhiskeynCoke]

You got a 2.6 GPA in a CJ major. You scored in the 140's on the LSAT. You seem to think you will be top 10% of your potentially-section-stacking TTTT.

You should drop out.

ETA: seriously.

If there was section stacking, what are the implications of it?

Straight answer somebody, please.

Um, the fact that you need to ask this question does not bode well for your chances. Here's a "straight answer:"

If there are 2 sections, and a grossly disproportionate number of the "smart" students are in one, it will be harder to get good grades for the people in that section. You are graded on a curve. It's painfully obvious that the smarter/more hardworking your classmates are, the harder you'll need to work to best them on a curved exam.

Here's an example:
- Class A = no one speaks English, except for you
- Class B = Everyone has a PHD from Oxford, except for you

Which class do you think gives you better odds of producing a more impressive law school final exam answer than your classmates? Could you seriously not figure this out for yourself?

As others have said, if your school section-stacks, they are doing so to increase the number of people who lose their scholarship. If you are in the section with all the "smarter" students, you're probably gonna get dusted. The fact that you couldn't figure out why it sucks to be in that section, grade wise, underscores that point.

[Virindi]

i got to super low ranked school, they handed out a plethora of top 30% merit scholarships and grouped the shit out of top gpa/lsat per section.

so yah, your gut instinct is probably correct

[arklaw13]

i got to super low ranked school, they handed out a plethora of top 30% merit scholarships and grouped the shit out of top gpa/lsat per section.

so yah, your gut instinct is probably correct

1. how do you know they stacked?
2. you should out the school

[hiima3L]

i got to super low ranked school, they handed out a plethora of top 30% merit scholarships and grouped the shit out of top gpa/lsat per section.

so yah, your gut instinct is probably correct

1. how do you know they stacked?
2. you should out the school

Out the school.

Section stacking people with scholarships is one of the worst bait-and-switches that TTTTs employ. It's reprehensible and borders on fraud, IMO.

[theInnerCircle]

i went to a section stacking TTT bordering TTTT. most everyone can figure out section stacking through the grapevine ("who got what"). its really bad, i got out of that hell hole. you should too op. cheers.