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- alicrimson

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I like it still. I think anything one does for "work" is going to be, well, work. Some things about school annoy me more than others but on the whole, its pretty enjoyable. Just not when I'm trying to write my brief draft for appellate advocacy...which, is currently looking like a steaming pile.
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sparty99

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No. It sucks, damn. Con-Law is like a history lesson. Am I supposed to argue that Plessy v. Ferguson came out correctly on the final? Why are we studying this?
Writing course is like 8th grade. Why are you lecturing me on writing and why do we have a textbook?
Grades matter to get jobs. If you are not top 30%, then you are almost f*cked. Even if you have a full ride scholarship, cost of living is $60,000 +. Going to school for three years, doing b.s. and not having a job, SOUNDS LIKE A HORRIBLE IDEA. Why would anyone enjoy that path.
Writing course is like 8th grade. Why are you lecturing me on writing and why do we have a textbook?
Grades matter to get jobs. If you are not top 30%, then you are almost f*cked. Even if you have a full ride scholarship, cost of living is $60,000 +. Going to school for three years, doing b.s. and not having a job, SOUNDS LIKE A HORRIBLE IDEA. Why would anyone enjoy that path.
- MTal

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Re: anyone enjoying law school?
How is it that the vast majority of people only realize at the most after their first year?sparty99 wrote: Going to school for three years, doing b.s. and not having a job, SOUNDS LIKE A HORRIBLE IDEA. Why would anyone enjoy that path.
- JoeFish

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I think I've said all three of those things...thesealocust wrote:Also keep in mind that while some people do like law school, they are also the worst human beings on the planet.
Saying "I like law school" isn't like saying "I prefer red wine to white." It's closer to saying "I spend every day working on my violent kiddy-porn dungeon and plotting mean things to do do puppies."
Yeah, put me in the "I like law school" group. I really didn't like undergrad, so maybe it's just a comparison issue too. But, yeah, echoing everything that's been said: it's stressful, and a lot of the people are asshats. But I've made some damn good friends here too. There will be people like you, with similar interests, and if you're one of those people who says "I haven't connected to a single person in my class," my guess is that the problem's at least equally on your end.
- fundamentallybroken

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Re: anyone enjoying law school?
Kiddie-porn dungeons and puppy abuse aside, I'm in the "really enjoy law school" camp, for two reasons:
1. I enjoy the material, the intellectual challenge of applying simple principles in complex fashions, and the friends I've made; and,
2. I wake up every morning, go to school, look around and think, "Wow! I'm not at work!"
Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
1. I enjoy the material, the intellectual challenge of applying simple principles in complex fashions, and the friends I've made; and,
2. I wake up every morning, go to school, look around and think, "Wow! I'm not at work!"
Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
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Villanova3

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Re: anyone enjoying law school?
I had a job for a couple of years before law school.
While law school is infinitely better than work, I hate law school and my grades are a glowing reflection of this so far.
If I didn't have a full-ride, I would probably drop out after this year is over.
While law school is infinitely better than work, I hate law school and my grades are a glowing reflection of this so far.
If I didn't have a full-ride, I would probably drop out after this year is over.
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sparty99

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Re: anyone enjoying law school?
Villanova3 wrote:I had a job for a couple of years before law school.
While law school is infinitely better than work, I hate law school and my grades are a glowing reflection of this so far.
If I didn't have a full-ride, I would probably drop out after this year is over.
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Villanova3

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Re: anyone enjoying law school?
sparty99 wrote:Villanova3 wrote:I had a job for a couple of years before law school.
While law school is infinitely better than work, I hate law school and my grades are a glowing reflection of this so far.
If I didn't have a full-ride, I would probably drop out after this year is over.
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You, too?
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sparty99

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YESVillanova3 wrote:sparty99 wrote:Villanova3 wrote:I had a job for a couple of years before law school.
While law school is infinitely better than work, I hate law school and my grades are a glowing reflection of this so far.
If I didn't have a full-ride, I would probably drop out after this year is over.
+1
You, too?
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Villanova3

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sparty99 wrote:YESVillanova3 wrote:sparty99 wrote:Villanova3 wrote:I had a job for a couple of years before law school.
While law school is infinitely better than work, I hate law school and my grades are a glowing reflection of this so far.
If I didn't have a full-ride, I would probably drop out after this year is over.
+1
You, too?
It's terrible. How do you deal with it? I just constantly procrastinate. I have a brief for legal writing due on Tues. and while I've done all the research, I've been having a staring contest with my computer all day instead of writing.
I have no stipulation, which makes it even worse.
How do you deal with your disdain for this work?
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sparty99

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I do the same (procrastinate), but I'm starting to fall behind because of moot court tryouts, so all that reading will become motivation because I need to do well - median doesn't get jobs....
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dhgrs

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I'd have to say that 200K+ of debt would probably spoil the fun for me too, but luckily our tuitions are incomparable to the ones that are paid in the US (I'm Dutch btw, not Scandinavian as someone wondered). Hopefully people won't get homicidal when they figure out that I study at their school without having to pay tuition. Then again, it's just an exchange program.
Good to hear that. I will just be an exchange student, I will not be graduating from either a JD or LLM program at NYU. However, I get to pick courses from both of these programs; all courses are eligible except for first-year courses.I go to NYU for a JD and really like it. And the LLMs — is that what you will be? — have a better time than the JD students.
People eat lunch together just to hang out. As far as I know, no one plots to do mean things to puppies or works in a kiddy-porn dungeon.
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Borhas

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This.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
My "careers" before law school were landscaper and farm hand. While going home sweaty and tired is actually a *good* feeling, I think that people that truly hate school lived lives of extreme privelege. Reality is that you are likely to do work you won't enjoy around people that aren't your friends. Because its rare for someone to pay someone else to hang out w/ your friends and do what you want to do.
But then again, Im not and don't want to be on a journal. Maybe cite checking is the worst thing ever, I wouldn't know.
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- cinephile

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I miss working and actually getting paid. I also miss having a 9-5 and not thinking about (school)work on the evenings and weekends.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
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Villanova3

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cinephile wrote:I miss working and actually getting paid. I also miss having a 9-5 and not thinking about (school)work on the evenings and weekends.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
I actually agree with you on this; 100%.
- a male human

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I miss it too, but school life does give you some flexibility on when to wake up and what you can do during the day.Villanova3 wrote:cinephile wrote:I miss working and actually getting paid. I also miss having a 9-5 and not thinking about (school)work on the evenings and weekends.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
I actually agree with you on this; 100%.
- cinephile

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Not my schedule, unfortunately. Have class/internship every morning at 9am - 4pm. Then I guess I could skip studying in the evenings, but that doesn't seem prudent. Doesn't feel like the wake up at noon schedule of undergrad at all.a male human wrote:I miss it too, but school life does give you some flexibility on when to wake up and what you can do during the day.Villanova3 wrote:cinephile wrote:I miss working and actually getting paid. I also miss having a 9-5 and not thinking about (school)work on the evenings and weekends.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
I actually agree with you on this; 100%.
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- Redamon1

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Re: anyone enjoying law school?
Curious to hear what kind of interesting 9-5 jobs one can land after law school...Villanova3 wrote:cinephile wrote:I miss working and actually getting paid. I also miss having a 9-5 and not thinking about (school)work on the evenings and weekends.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
I actually agree with you on this; 100%.
- reformed calvinist

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Oh for sure. At the end of the day, what am I doing? Reading, going to class, and writing a 20 page paper (brief). At the end of this I'm going to miss the low responsibility and the stem cell feeling, but that's not sustainable and I know it.Borhas wrote:This.fundamentallybroken wrote:Careers prior to law school can affect your perspective.
My "careers" before law school were landscaper and farm hand. While going home sweaty and tired is actually a *good* feeling, I think that people that truly hate school lived lives of extreme privelege. Reality is that you are likely to do work you won't enjoy around people that aren't your friends. Because its rare for someone to pay someone else to hang out w/ your friends and do what you want to do.
But then again, Im not and don't want to be on a journal. Maybe cite checking is the worst thing ever, I wouldn't know.
- bjsesq

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Borhas wrote:While going home sweaty and tired is actually a *good* feeling, I think that people that truly hate school lived lives of extreme privelege.
I grew up poor. I ate a shitton of government cheese, detassled assloads of corn to make extra cash, and helped my dad do oil changes for people to make extra money when his job at bar didn't pay enough. I have never known this privilege, and I still thank law stupid is insanely stupid and a rest stop for egomaniacs.
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sparty99

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I haven't decided which is worse, working or law school. I would probably say working, because you can't skip work (unless you want to waste a PTO day), you only get 2-4 weeks of vacation, you have to sit there for 8 - 12 hours staring at a computer screen.
Despite law school being a major drag, I did get a month off for winter break, will get spring break off, and will have a lil time in the summer after school and before school starts...
Despite law school being a major drag, I did get a month off for winter break, will get spring break off, and will have a lil time in the summer after school and before school starts...
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Borhas

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So your issues about law school have more to do w/ your peers and not so much w/ your work and responsibilities?bjsesq wrote:Borhas wrote:While going home sweaty and tired is actually a *good* feeling, I think that people that truly hate school lived lives of extreme privelege.
I grew up poor. I ate a shitton of government cheese, detassled assloads of corn to make extra cash, and helped my dad do oil changes for people to make extra money when his job at bar didn't pay enough. I have never known this privilege, and I still thank law stupid is insanely stupid and a rest stop for egomaniacs.
I think classes are boring, and thinking like a lawyer doesn't require more than 1L, but the work itself is not THAT bad, i mean, detassling corn is pretty boring too
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- bjsesq

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Oh, absolutely. More than just peers, though. Some peers, faculty, and the general way things are done. None of the work is that stressful. So, your point is made.Borhas wrote:So your issues about law school have more to do w/ your peers and not so much w/ your work and responsibilities?bjsesq wrote:Borhas wrote:While going home sweaty and tired is actually a *good* feeling, I think that people that truly hate school lived lives of extreme privelege.
I grew up poor. I ate a shitton of government cheese, detassled assloads of corn to make extra cash, and helped my dad do oil changes for people to make extra money when his job at bar didn't pay enough. I have never known this privilege, and I still thank law stupid is insanely stupid and a rest stop for egomaniacs.
- crossarmant

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I actually really enjoy the work for each class, I find the exams to be a much more interesting way of testing that MC undergrad exams. I have fun doing this differentiating and analyzing with all of the cases. That said, I get terrible ADD with LRW assignments, I hate the middle-school-social-aspect, and I'm not particularly keen on my specific school. But, all in all, I actually really enjoy the work a lot more than I ever thought I would.
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I miss my old job. Once I was done, I was done for the day. At the same time there are parts of law school I like. But there are also parts I hate.
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