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stratocophic

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by stratocophic » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:01 pm
Desert Fox wrote:stratocophic wrote:Desert Fox wrote:stratocophic wrote:I don't think I could bear to poast there - Dave's disdain and disappointment for my chosen lifestyle would be too painful.
I don't post but I head there everyone once in a while to see if there are any hilarious threads. It's 90% shit, but 10% of its pretty funny.
Yep. The firm threads usually have more useful info than TLS, even if the entire thread is mostly SPS, but I got sucked into lurking even when I don't need info b/c of the occasional genius flames.
Firm threads have had a pretty steep decline in value in the last two years on Xo. Too many of them are associates and have no clue about OCI anymore. If you ask for help you get 1/3 decent advice that you could get on TLS, 1/3 Flame, and 1/3 retarded advice. They'll say shit like you need to be top 20% at Cornell to have ANY shot at big law. It's retarded.
I used to think their opinion of TLS was too harsh. Because people on TLS constantly post that very few non t14 get big law, and that even in the t14 its about 50/50. And Xo made it seem like we thought the market was great.
However, I've noticed on several threads a large number of posters calling "flame" at unemployed T14 grads. Or being shocked that t14 grads are working doc review. It's this weird congnative dissonance where TSLers can quote NLJ250 data, but really don't consider that a lot t14 people really fuck up their careers.
To be fair, it seems to usually be 0Ls who have committed to a school and just can't fathom that a person can fall through the cracks. That jobless 3L at B thread's the best example, whether it was flame or not. 0Ls all over the place telling him what a terrible idea it was to drop out regardless of the extra 70k of debt etc. People seem to learn quickly once they get in and strike out on 1L SAs, which then freaks them out about OCI.
Xo tends to focus on the dumbest parts of TLS for support, but they do have a point a lot of times - 50%+ of TLS has the "it can't happen to me" mindset, be it in terms of not doing well 1L year or striking out once it comes time to find a job.
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GeePee

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by GeePee » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:05 pm
rayiner wrote:Desert Fox wrote:They do this weird thing where they date each other, but refuse to tell anyone, and refuse to call it dating. They call it friends with benefits, despite it being exclusive. It's pretty retarded. It's what happens when you take a bunch of nerds and place them in a place with no social structure.
This.
Law school is people who date sporadically and try/pretend to keep it on the DL, plus married/almost-married couples.
That said, there are also people who are ostensibly not dating and not exclusive where the girl just fumes silently and randomly blows up at the guy for having sex with someone else.
I thought this was an HLS thing, but apparently it happens at least at NU as well...
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bilbobaggins

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by bilbobaggins » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:16 pm
Some people date, some don't. Some people date law students, some don't. Some people continue weird behavior that's been discussed in this thread (not much different from behavior I saw in college) and some don't.
Did you date a lot in undergrad? If so, you can probably continue to. If not, well, who knows. I found after dating people at school that I got tired of it and just the law school bullshit in general and started dating girls who know nothing about the law. So far, it's been a pretty good idea.
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splitmuch

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by splitmuch » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:17 pm
bilbobaggins wrote:Some people date, some don't. Some people date law students, some don't. Some people continue weird behavior that's been discussed in this thread (not much different from behavior I saw in college) and some don't.
Did you date a lot in undergrad? If so, you can probably continue to. If not, well, who knows. I found after dating people at school that I got tired of it and just the law school bullshit in general and started dating girls who know nothing about the law. So far, it's been a pretty good idea.
Nurses and school teachers. Nurses and school teachers.
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Emma.

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by Emma. » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:20 pm
Desert Fox wrote:splitmuch wrote:Desert Fox wrote:They do this weird thing where they date each other, but refuse to tell anyone, and refuse to call it dating. They call it friends with benefits, despite it being exclusive. It's pretty retarded. It's what happens when you take a bunch of nerds and place them in a place with no social structure.
exclusive?
"We are just having sex, no big deal. But you can't fuck anyone else either."
It's a flame, and they are really just dating.
This.
Desert Fox wrote:
Wow sex having was normal in UG!??!?

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downstream

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by downstream » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:22 pm
I don't post but I head there everyone once in a while to see if there are any hilarious threads. It's 90% shit, but 10% of its pretty funny
No, xoxo is far superior to TLS when it comes to intelligent writing, hilarity and thought provoking posts. If you want law firm info, then yes, TLS is better.
This thread sums up the hilarity of TLS. Some dude with 12,500+ posts discussing romance. I love it.
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by bceagles182 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:27 pm
The only way that there is "plenty of money" to waste on dates is if (1) your parents are paying (2) you are privately wealthy, or (3) you are stupid enough to waste loan money that you'll be paying back with interest on dates.
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IAFG

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by IAFG » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:27 pm
downstream wrote:I don't post but I head there everyone once in a while to see if there are any hilarious threads. It's 90% shit, but 10% of its pretty funny
No, xoxo is far superior to TLS when it comes to intelligent writing, hilarity and thought provoking posts. If you want law firm info, then yes, TLS is better.
This thread sums up the hilarity of TLS. Some dude with 12,500+ posts discussing romance. I love it.
I would bet a decent sum of money that DF's girlfriend is hotter than your last lay, assuming it wasn't a realdoll.
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fatduck

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by fatduck » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:29 pm
IAFG wrote:downstream wrote:I don't post but I head there everyone once in a while to see if there are any hilarious threads. It's 90% shit, but 10% of its pretty funny
No, xoxo is far superior to TLS when it comes to intelligent writing, hilarity and thought provoking posts. If you want law firm info, then yes, TLS is better.
This thread sums up the hilarity of TLS. Some dude with 12,500+ posts discussing romance. I love it.
I would bet a decent sum of money that DF's girlfriend is hotter than your last lay, assuming it wasn't a realdoll.
i read this as:
downstream's last hooker < DF's girlfriend < realdoll
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IAFG

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by IAFG » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:31 pm
fatduck wrote:
i read this as:
downstream's last hooker < DF's girlfriend < realdoll
Those dolls are hot, and age better than white girls anyway.
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paratactical

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by paratactical » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:33 pm
IAFG wrote:fatduck wrote:
i read this as:
downstream's last hooker < DF's girlfriend < realdoll
Those dolls are hot, and age better than white girls anyway.
And have you ever tried to clean a real girl snatch with bleach? Bitches don't like that.
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rayiner

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by rayiner » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:33 pm
bceagles182 wrote:The only way that there is "plenty of money" to waste on dates is if (1) your parents are paying (2) you are privately wealthy, or (3) you are stupid enough to waste loan money that you'll be paying back with interest on dates.
If I spend $400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
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GeePee

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by GeePee » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:34 pm
rayiner wrote:bceagles182 wrote:The only way that there is "plenty of money" to waste on dates is if (1) your parents are paying (2) you are privately wealthy, or (3) you are stupid enough to waste loan money that you'll be paying back with interest on dates.
If I spend
$400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
Doing it wrong.
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rayiner

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by rayiner » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:36 pm
GeePee wrote:rayiner wrote:bceagles182 wrote:The only way that there is "plenty of money" to waste on dates is if (1) your parents are paying (2) you are privately wealthy, or (3) you are stupid enough to waste loan money that you'll be paying back with interest on dates.
If I spend
$400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
Doing it wrong.
Explain.
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paratactical

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by paratactical » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:36 pm
GeePee wrote:rayiner wrote:bceagles182 wrote:The only way that there is "plenty of money" to waste on dates is if (1) your parents are paying (2) you are privately wealthy, or (3) you are stupid enough to waste loan money that you'll be paying back with interest on dates.
If I spend
$400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
Doing it wrong.
That's four $100 nights in a month, that's pretty damn right, IMO.
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by BeenDidThat » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:37 pm
rayiner wrote:GeePee wrote:rayiner wrote:bceagles182 wrote:The only way that there is "plenty of money" to waste on dates is if (1) your parents are paying (2) you are privately wealthy, or (3) you are stupid enough to waste loan money that you'll be paying back with interest on dates.
If I spend
$400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
Doing it wrong.
Explain.
400 is a lot of fuckin money. Is she not paying for anything? I get mine just fine on a date budget of maybe $100/mo.
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paratactical

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by paratactical » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:38 pm
BeenDidThat wrote:400 is a lot of fuckin money. Is she not paying for anything? I get mine just fine on a date budget of maybe $100/mo.
So you live in the middle of nowhere or are cheap?
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Bill Cosby

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by Bill Cosby » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:39 pm
paratactical wrote:BeenDidThat wrote:400 is a lot of fuckin money. Is she not paying for anything? I get mine just fine on a date budget of maybe $100/mo.
So you live in the middle of nowhere or are cheap?
$100 may be a little low (or he's not going out often), but $400 seems high.
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stratocophic

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by stratocophic » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:40 pm
IAFG wrote:fatduck wrote:
i read this as:
downstream's last hooker < DF's girlfriend < realdoll
Those dolls are hot, and
age better than white girls anyway.
180
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paratactical

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by paratactical » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:41 pm
Bill Cosby wrote:paratactical wrote:BeenDidThat wrote:400 is a lot of fuckin money. Is she not paying for anything? I get mine just fine on a date budget of maybe $100/mo.
So you live in the middle of nowhere or are cheap?
$100 may be a little low (or he's not going out often), but $400 seems high.
For a month? You don't want to go out at least once a week? How in the world can you have dinner and drinks and do anything else for less than $100 for two people?
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rayiner

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by rayiner » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:41 pm
BeenDidThat wrote:rayiner wrote:GeePee wrote:rayiner wrote:
If I spend $400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
Doing it wrong.
Explain.
400 is a lot of fuckin money. Is she not paying for anything? I get mine just fine on a date budget of maybe $100/mo.
Dinner at Chipotle is not a "date."
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BeenDidThat

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by BeenDidThat » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:52 pm
rayiner wrote:BeenDidThat wrote:rayiner wrote:GeePee wrote:
Explain.
400 is a lot of fuckin money. Is she not paying for anything? I get mine just fine on a date budget of maybe $100/mo.
Dinner at Chipotle is not a "date."
Maybe I just don't go out on that many dates. There are plenty of places with good food where I am that you could do dinner for two for around 30-40. And I was considering "dates" separate from "drinking and shit". My entertainment budget is much more than 100/mo. Might have been speaking past one another.
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GeePee

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by GeePee » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:54 pm
rayiner wrote:GeePee wrote:rayiner wrote:
If I spend $400/mo on dates with my girlfriend, for 9 months of the year during which I'm living on loans, for three years, that's like $12k at graduation. The interest payment on that is compared to the $200k I will otherwise owe, that's a drop in the bucket, for a huge increase in QoL.
Doing it wrong.
Explain.
Are you going out to dinner on every date? Even if you were, $50/dinner for 8 dinners = $400, and that's a fairly upscale dinner twice a week. I used to do something close to that absurd, but it only takes you so far. Cooking dinner yourself or going to do something else like attractions/museums/movies (even at $11/ticket and spending ticket value on popcorn and/or beverage, that date only comes out to around $30-35).
I'd like to clarify that I agree with your overall reasoning, but not your methods.
I'd also like to clarify that Chipotle is delicious, but you're right -- it's not a date.
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by 09042014 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:56 pm
When Rayiner cooks dinner, he doesn't use TTT ingredients.
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GeePee

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by GeePee » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:01 pm
Desert Fox wrote:When Rayiner cooks dinner, he doesn't use TTT ingredients.
Even so, two decent pieces of fish or steaks come to under $20, and produce and starch aren't particularly expensive. In most cases you can cook an awesome gourmet meal for $30-35 at most, and some dishes that appear to be nice can be made for <$10 (although it's easy to see through these after you make them enough).
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