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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by A'nold » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:42 am

Danteshek wrote:http://www.docstoc.com/docs/29386602/Ou ... nt-Conduct

This is the email I sent to about 80 friends and family

Attached is my appellate brief for this semester. The topic is very interesting - the outrageous government conduct defense (technically it's not a defense, rather it's a claim to dismiss an indictment). This doctrine, unlike entrapment, is available to defendants who are predisposed to commit the crime. Unfortunately, the doctrine is basically dead - it hasn't been successfully invoked in the 9th Circuit since United States v. Green in 1971. However, it remains available to the federal courts just in case the government behaves especially badly. I argue that in this case, the government indeed has crossed the threshold into truly outrageous conduct.

My first round of oral argument was this Saturday. If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.
I don't get it. :(

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by A'nold » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:43 am

chadwick218 wrote:Appellate Brief Done! Only one oral argument worth 5% separates me from never setting foot in a legal writing classroom again!
Congrats! I cannot wait until this day. *a sun beam appears through a separation of dark clouds*

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Herb Watchfell » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:50 am

Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.
I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by prezidentv8 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:50 am

I was really tempted to cite an episode of Seinfeld in mine just to show off the bluebooking skills.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:48 am

Herb Watchfell wrote:
Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.
I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.
Post your brief.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by A'nold » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:46 am

Danteshek wrote:
Herb Watchfell wrote:
Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.
I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.
Post your brief.
Wait......you were joking right? That's why I said I didn't get it, b/c it was an obvious joke but I was missing it....... :?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:19 am

It was not a joke. I like to share my work with my friends and family. In my last post I used Docstock to link to my brief. The douchbag then commented on my email. I would like to see his brief.

Why are people so insecure that they can't engage in civilized conversation? Why can't people on this forum talk without hiding behind their avatars? My identity is readily available to anyone who looks at my profile.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Herb Watchfell » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:34 am

Danteshek wrote:It was not a joke. I like to share my work with my friends and family. In my last post I used Docstock to link to my brief. The douchbag then commented on my email. I would like to see his brief.
It's as if you're proud of that sack of shit you call a brief, Hornblower.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:42 am

I'll let you know when I CALI this class. My draft also was the highest grade.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by pandacot » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:05 pm

Danteshek wrote:
Herb Watchfell wrote:
Danteshek wrote: If I successfully navigate the next few rounds, I may have the chance to argue at the 9th Circuit, in front of the same judges who decided the cases I refer to in my brief.
I suggest you find a way to "successfully navigate" your pathetic self through a grammar workbook, buddy.
Post your brief.

Are you asking to see his underwear?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:07 pm

His underwear and his brief are probably not distinguishable. Either would be fine.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by pandacot » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:09 pm

Danteshek wrote:His underwear and his brief are probably not distinguishable. Either would be fine.

I doubt there is a poop stain on his brief.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Herb Watchfell » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:16 pm

Danteshek wrote:His underwear and his brief are probably not distinguishable. Either would be fine.
No, no, Horny. My briefs complement my sizable bulge. My brief will give you one.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Danteshek » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:30 pm

pandacot wrote:
Danteshek wrote:His underwear and his brief are probably not distinguishable. Either would be fine.

I doubt there is a poop stain on his brief.
The crimes are similar, and outrageous.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by eth3n » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:55 am

Missed LRW on friday, learned today that my oral argument is this friday morning.

Brief was assigned on Friday, not due for like 2 weeks but whats the point if I have to argue this week.

Also, I got stuck doing the side of the case I really didn't want, I know this is good in the respect that I know what I would say if I was the appellee, any other advice on faking it?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by Danteshek » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:53 pm

Make one argument and concede everything that is not necessary to your argument. Don't let the judges knock you off course.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by eth3n » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:31 pm

As I will be the first person to speak on the facts...that may actually be a viable tactic if the cases I use are obscure enough.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by mikeytwoshoes » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:38 pm

The FUCKING BRIEF dies tomorrow! Can I be put in jail for first degree murder of an appellate brief?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by engineer » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:27 am

mikeytwoshoes wrote:The FUCKING BRIEF dies tomorrow! Can I be put in jail for first degree murder of an appellate brief?
The brief dies TONIGHT. You are on death row in saudi fucking arabia, and I'm about to behead you, motherfucker.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by mikeytwoshoes » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:59 am

The brief is fucking dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It did not go quietly but it's dead. If I had matches in this apartment, I'd go out on the balcony and burn a copy. I would have taken a picture for TLS and Lishi.

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by mikeytwoshoes » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:37 pm

mikeytwoshoes wrote:The brief is fucking dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It did not go quietly but it's dead. If I had matches in this apartment, I'd go out on the balcony and burn a copy. I would have taken a picture for TLS and Lishi.
The fucking brief keeps calling out to me from the underworld in a sing song voice, "You forgot to cite a rule... you forgot to put a period on a citation sentence... you had awkward phrasing." How does one exorcise a brief?

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Re: Appellate Brief

Post by mikeytwoshoes » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:53 pm

betasteve wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:The brief is fucking dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It did not go quietly but it's dead. If I had matches in this apartment, I'd go out on the balcony and burn a copy. I would have taken a picture for TLS and Lishi.
The fucking brief keeps calling out to me from the underworld in a sing song voice, "You forgot to cite a rule... you forgot to put a period on a citation sentence... you had awkward phrasing." How does one exorcise a brief?
Booze. A lot of booze. Drink until you forget everything you have written.
I can't drink because of my medicines. I wish i could drink until I forgot. Plus, i have arguments in a week.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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