In which we complain about HelLRW Forum

[uci2013]

So are there any law-related jobs that don't require writing? If not I should just drop out now.

Yeah I know I should have thought about this before.

I think you do a lot less writing in the DA's office or PD's office.

[Cupidity]

So are there any law-related jobs that don't require writing? If not I should just drop out now.

Yeah I know I should have thought about this before.

I think you do a lot less writing in the DA's office or PD's office.

What?! In a DA's/PD's office you have to write all the time, and it isn't just memos.

[bostonian]

So are there any law-related jobs that don't require writing? If not I should just drop out now.

Yeah I know I should have thought about this before.

I think you do a lot less writing in the DA's office or PD's office.

What?! In a DA's/PD's office you have to write all the time, and it isn't just memos.

And the pay sucks. In other words, I should be getting an MBA.
Math >>> Writing

[keg411]

We aren't supposed to receive any outside help at all from anyone. I think they said not to talk about it all, but everyone does.

It's the same here, but I'm sure people talk. I didn't and (and really don't know anyone in my section who actually did) but I wish we could have at least done a "peer editing" session like we did with our ungraded memo.

I'm actually hoping I do well because I want to TA next year. I like my prof and I generally like LAWR.

[beach_terror]

THE BEAST HAS BEEN SLAIN

MAY YOU ROT IN HELL

(UNTIL NEXT SEMESTER)

[emorystud2010]

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[Stanford4Me]

I'm gonna miss my professor, though.

[dakatz]

My final words spoken to my memo before I sent it in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Txgb80F ... re=related

[bostonian]

CLR is Northwestern's name for legal writing. Still trying to figure out who actually created this:

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[kcg171]

CLR is Northwestern's name for legal writing. Still trying to figure out who actually created this:

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that is amazing.

[bleedcubbieblue]

Adios el diablo memo!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bh2uKJOIKE&feature=fvw

[dakatz]

Adios el diablo memo!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bh2uKJOIKE&feature=fvw

I'd call you a copycat, but that scene is just too appropriate.

[uzpakalis]

Adios el diablo memo!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bh2uKJOIKE&feature=fvw

I'd call you a copycat, but that scene is just too appropriate.

Yes, the end of the video is priceless.

[RUQRU]

This guy knows what to do to a Bluebook!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pRnE3cjWv8

[goodolgil]

Second semester even worse than the first.

Hello, Brief in Support of Motion for Preliminary Injunction!

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Second semester even worse than the first.

Hello, Brief in Support of Motion for Preliminary Injunction!

+1 Have you met my friend Memorandum in Support of Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment? Oh well, I can't hate what I've barely started.

[blerg]

Second semester even worse than the first.

Hello, Brief in Support of Motion for Preliminary Injunction!

+1 Have you met my friend Memorandum in Support of Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment? Oh well, I can't hate what I've barely started.

My friend Memorandum in Opposition of Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment agrees.

[Sogui]

I love my 2nd semester legal writing guy. First semester's instructor was OK, but was just more of the status quo "by the book" stuff, which isn't bad unless the "book" happens to be a Bluebook.

2nd semester we get an older guy who isn't trying to climb any career ladders here, "informal" doesn't even begin to describe his down-to-earth style. He spent a good deal of our first class expressing disdain for the new grading sheets that has been used to evaluate our papers, I like him already.

Also a relevant quote I saw today:

[N]eedless to say, I have not read the nineteenth edition. I have dipped into it, much as one might dip one’s toes in a pail of freezing water. I am put in mind of Mr. Kurtz’s dying words in Heart of Darkness — ‘The horror! The horror!’ — and am tempted to end there.

— Judge Richard Posner

[klussy]

TA marks "why is this important" to points which are self-evidently important...

[kalvano]

I got marked off on my final memo for:

1) Using proper names...such as Canada, where we were talking about the validity of foreign adoptions.
2) In a case that turned on actual versus constructive notice, citing the case that ever Texas decision since then cites as the case that defines actual and constructive notice....because it wasn't a real property case, even though all the real property cases use it.

[Holly Golightly]

OH MY GOD I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN FINISH WRITING THIS ARGUMENT

[RUQRU]

Judge Posner Confesses He Was Unable to Master the Hated Bluebook While at Harvard Law School

Judge Richard Posner hasn’t mastered the 511 pages that make up the latest edition of The Bluebook: A Uniform System of Citation. The Chicago-based federal appeals judge hasn’t even read it in detail.

“I have dipped into it, much as one might dip one’s toes in a pail of freezing water,” Posner writes in an article for the Yale Law Journal. “I am put in mind of Mr. Kurtz’s dying words in Heart of Darkness—‘The horror! The horror!’ ”
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Posner doesn’t use The Bluebook in his judicial opinions. Instead, he hands his court clerks a manual with a short section on citation form, complete with a “cheat sheet” of examples. “I think that if one compares my citation system to that of The Bluebook, one will at least begin to question The Bluebook’s utility,” he writes.

http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/articl ... ekly_email

[vamedic03]

With regards to Posner & the blue book, this should be required reading:

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[JazzOne]

Judge Posner Confesses He Was Unable to Master the Hated Bluebook While at Harvard Law School

Judge Richard Posner hasn’t mastered the 511 pages that make up the latest edition of The Bluebook: A Uniform System of Citation. The Chicago-based federal appeals judge hasn’t even read it in detail.

“I have dipped into it, much as one might dip one’s toes in a pail of freezing water,” Posner writes in an article for the Yale Law Journal. “I am put in mind of Mr. Kurtz’s dying words in Heart of Darkness—‘The horror! The horror!’ ”
***
Posner doesn’t use The Bluebook in his judicial opinions. Instead, he hands his court clerks a manual with a short section on citation form, complete with a “cheat sheet” of examples. “I think that if one compares my citation system to that of The Bluebook, one will at least begin to question The Bluebook’s utility,” he writes.

http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/articl ... ekly_email

With regards to Posner & the blue book, this should be required reading:

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I don't have time to read the article this evening. But on it's face, Posner's argument seems flawed. The portion of The Bluebook dedicated to practitioners and law clerks (i.e., the "Bluepages") is less than 50 pages. It's pretty simple actually. The rest of The Bluebook is geared toward law journals, for which citations can be much more difficult. I'd like to see how Posner's simplified citation format handles something obscure like the British Constitution, Israeli law, a pre-publication draft of an article, or a memorandum opinion (all of which I have come across this year while cite checking articles). I'll read Posner's article when I get a chance though. So much to do.....

[blerg]

LRW + Con Law front loading is killing me.