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[thesealocust]

So different worldview is all you could come up with? So I'm not wrong? cool then

[scone]

If you are a total aspie

Hey, don't hate on aspies.

[starry eyed]

^^^what happens when you go against the hive on TLS and this is why no one has the balls to offer a different perspective

[basedvulpes]

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[Nulli Secundus]

There are lots of people that can spend lots and lots of time learning the very learnable LSAT and still never score well enough to get into a T14. That particular example isn't a big deal because it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but it used to happen in the on-topics pretty frequently, which I think is pretty douchey.

Spleenworship is right imo.

TLS consensus indicates I am not a very bright person and I have come to accept that. Despite that, I managed to score 176 with 3 months prep. English isn't even my native language, and I haven't studied abroad.

The only thing holding back you is YOU!

[Nebby]

I got a 157. #Success

[starry eyed]

I got a 157. #Success

You're an inspiration to us all.

[cdotson2]

There are lots of people that can spend lots and lots of time learning the very learnable LSAT and still never score well enough to get into a T14. That particular example isn't a big deal because it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but it used to happen in the on-topics pretty frequently, which I think is pretty douchey.

Spleenworship is right imo.

TLS consensus indicates I am not a very bright person and I have come to accept that. Despite that, I managed to score 176 with 3 months prep. English isn't even my native language, and I haven't studied abroad.

The only thing holding back you is YOU!

being able to effectively study and apply yourself is not a universal skill or innate in all individuals.

[03152016]

yea i taught lsat and i'm as sure as i could be that not everyone can score 170+

[shump92]

Learning the LSAT is like doing well in math. There are very clear ways to do things well, but not everyone is ever able to understand the game itself that well. Regardless of how much they try or how much help they get.

[salander]

There are lots of people that can spend lots and lots of time learning the very learnable LSAT and still never score well enough to get into a T14. That particular example isn't a big deal because it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but it used to happen in the on-topics pretty frequently, which I think is pretty douchey.

Spleenworship is right imo.

TLS consensus indicates I am not a very bright person and I have come to accept that. Despite that, I managed to score 176 with 3 months prep. English isn't even my native language, and I haven't studied abroad.

The only thing holding back you is YOU!

being able to effectively study and apply yourself is not a universal skill or innate in all individuals.

But effective studying can most definitely be learned. It's simply a matter of how much time you can commit to it and what your background is like...

[Nebby]

Back to the discussion, TLS is the only (brutally) honest resource for applicants, and for that reason alone it is good. I also echo Johann's comments on page two.

[californiauser]

Does anyone ever care to compare salaries of someone who works in biglaw and flames out after 3 years (just after he takes a dent out of his loans) and the guy who starts at a small firm and stays on board while getting raises every year? I bet 10 years down the line, they are not much different. Also, why does this board think biglaw is prestigious? I mean you are basically an expendable corporate drone who gets little recognition and the money you do make, you don't get to enjoy bc you're always working as some partner's monkey. The small town "shitlawyer" who actually handles cases (like criminal or personal injury or even family law) has more relative power than a biglaw associate. People's lives are directly imapacted by their work- kind of like how surgeons' have lives in their hands, so do shitlawyers. Biglaw associates may handle 'fortune 500 stuff" but you don't really have any power, you just make a lot of money, which can be dwarfed by the small town lawyer who owns his own practice or makes partner at a small shop. LOL at the misguided prestige obsession TLS suffers from.

If you are a total aspie, you probably should just do prestige bro, bc you probably won't ever have to bring in business or clients. You rely on your T14 to get to a big firm and you rely on your big firm to get in-house. So i can see why this path appeals to most of TLS.

The idea that T14 students/lawyers are more aspie than students from lower tier schools needs to stop. Most law students are aspie, regardless of school rank.

[ymmv]

It's really hard to say "aspie" ten times quickly.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Biglaw attracts a lot of insecure, aspy strivers. The most confident and centered people from my class all wanted to go off and do their own thing.

Top-law-schools.com attracts a lot of insecure, aspy strivers. Just look at the God damned name of the website. If you cannot see this, you are an insecure, aspy striver.

That said, this site represents culture, it does not create it. The profession is what it is. Luckily, there are some extremely helpful threads on this site on topics like personal statements and what law school is really like. I'm certainly glad this site exists.

[basedvulpes]

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[fisheatbananas]

Back to the discussion, TLS is the only (brutally) honest resource for applicants, and for that reason alone it is good. I also echo Johann's comments on page two.

I was applying last cycle and will be starting law school this fall. The advice on TLS helped me during the application process and helped me understand what kind of employment opportunities (or lack of opportunities) you get from different schools so I could make a wiser decision. Of course everyone knows that higher ranked schools generally mean better employment prospects (until you get past T20 or so and youre talking about regional schools, then it depends on the region as well) but TLS advice forced me to aim higher than I would have originally. Going into the application process I was really stupid and thought things like "I'm happy as long it's a law school in america" and I'm sure I would have eventually realized some of these things on my own or from other sources of advice, but this forum forced me to consider the different factors of choosing a school a lot more, and maybe sooner than I would have otherwise.

[NotMyRealName09]

How bout we all stop using the word aspie.

Yeah. Name calling is for children. You all (ok some of y'all) talk shit, but when the - shall we say - socially challenged among us need some legal help and have deep, deep fucking pockets, you'd do well to learn that people pleasing requires pleasing all kinds. No one drops the "aspie" term without a negative connotation. But you know what? When my firm gets together in some BS forced social gathering, and I come across someone who I know from experience is socially awkward, who clearly hates being there - I make it a point to just be cool, lead the conversation, and take genuine interest in that person, and keep it casual. People in shells may just be good at hiding their innate awesomeness.

[PeanutsNJam]

But for TLS my scholarship would be 65k less than what it is now so I guess TLS is worth at least that much to some people.

[trey ohh five]

How bout we all stop using the word aspie.

Yeah. Name calling is for children. You all (ok some of y'all) talk shit, but when the - shall we say - socially challenged among us need some legal help and have deep, deep fucking pockets, you'd do well to learn that people pleasing requires pleasing all kinds. No one drops the "aspie" term without a negative connotation. But you know what? When my firm gets together in some BS forced social gathering, and I come across someone who I know from experience is socially awkward, who clearly hates being there - I make it a point to just be cool, lead the conversation, and take genuine interest in that person, and keep it casual. People in shells may just be good at hiding their innate awesomeness.

You're the man, bro.

[jbagelboy]

How bout we all stop using the word aspie.

Yeah. Name calling is for children. You all (ok some of y'all) talk shit, but when the - shall we say - socially challenged among us need some legal help and have deep, deep fucking pockets, you'd do well to learn that people pleasing requires pleasing all kinds. No one drops the "aspie" term without a negative connotation. But you know what? When my firm gets together in some BS forced social gathering, and I come across someone who I know from experience is socially awkward, who clearly hates being there - I make it a point to just be cool, lead the conversation, and take genuine interest in that person, and keep it casual. People in shells may just be good at hiding their innate awesomeness.

keepin it cool with all the weirdos for all us sinners

[benwyatt]

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[A. Nony Mouse]

yea i taught lsat and i'm as sure as i could be that not everyone can score 170+

As a fellow LSAT instructor, I wouldn't quite agree with you here.
I think that everyone could score 170+, but for some people the time and effort that required to score in that range is unreasonable. I'm of the opinion that almost no one should prep for the LSAT for more than a few months. After that point, you're trying to get into schools where you're likely to fail anyway.

Of course, every year people who do well at the schools where they're "supposed" to do well transfer to schools way above where they could get into originally and do well at their transfer schools, so I'm not sure about the "likely to fail" part. LSAT correlation with law school grades is far from perfect.

[benwyatt]

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[jaysnooginz]

yea i taught lsat and i'm as sure as i could be that not everyone can score 170+

As a fellow LSAT instructor, I wouldn't quite agree with you here.
I think that everyone could score 170+, but for some people the time and effort that required to score in that range is unreasonable. I'm of the opinion that almost no one should prep for the LSAT for more than a few months. After that point, you're trying to get into schools where you're likely to fail anyway.

Of course, every year people who do well at the schools where they're "supposed" to do well transfer to schools way above where they could get into originally and do well at their transfer schools, so I'm not sure about the "likely to fail" part. LSAT correlation with law school grades is far from perfect.

Aye. I know a few people with below 165 LSATS who basically topped the class. Some people just suck at logic puzzles: nothing more, nothing less.