Top law students vs. top med students Forum

[buckiguy_sucks]

there's no top-med-schools dot com slash forums checkmate med students look like law students come out on top once again

[jbagelboy]

this just reminds me of paris geller from gilmore girls, applying to all the top med and law schools, then agonizing over the choice between HLS/CLS/YLS and a bunch of ivy medical schools because all she cared about was signaling value and lacked any real substance in her personality.

[blueapple]

Blue, Why did you ignore all the compliments, concessions, and expressions of gratitude I made towards you in my last post? How about my statement that I'll take into account everything you said? Why did you only take into account the text you bolded? Also, you never actually seemed to address the content of the bolded text. Im trying to point out that I don't think I'm nearly as dismissive as you are characterizing me, especially since, like I said, I don't recall ever calling someone wrong when they engaged the topic? I also agreed with several individuals' posts without a single caveat, including HonestAdvice, Hiko, and the guy with the Johnny Bravo avatar (don't remember the username, I'm sorry).

I'm terribly sorry. Thank you for your compliments, concessions, and expressions of gratitude.

Anyway, to address your concern, I'm not really in the mood to go dig back through this thread, but I'm pretty sure there were a few times where Nony (maybe it was someone else, I can't recall) was responding to you and you said something along the lines of "that's interesting, I disagree, it makes much more sense to assume what I am assuming, why don't you come back when you have a more legitimate opinion?" Either way, you seem to be focusing on whether or not you literally told someone they were wrong, when I'm trying to prod you to focus on how you dismiss others opinions as being unworthy or irrelevant just because you disagree with them.

Truly though, I do appreciate that you acknowledged the importance of self-reflection and that you will take all of this to heart. I'm not trying to bring you down, just help you improve your interactions with others.

And I agree with everything pancakes said.

[Nebby]

this just reminds me of paris geller from gilmore girls, applying to all the top med and law schools, then agonizing over the choice between HLS/CLS/YLS and a bunch of ivy medical schools because all she cared about was signaling value and lacked any real substance in her personality.

Yup

[follagordas]

At its core, the question posed was "how do top med students compare with top law students on a variety of measures?"

Most of the general population would agree that's a valid and/or interesting question.

Many TLS posters, however, distracted by or envious of OP being from HYS, viscerally reject question and fall into cycle of insults, vanity, and group think, any thing to avoid objective examination of the inquiry presented

Fortunately, there have been a few recently to step forward and acknowledge the validity of the question, notwithstanding their feelings towards OP. Their rational responses and analysis will hopefully shine through to the objective observer brave enough to sift through the entirety of this thread, which admittedly has gotten out of hand.

[Nebby]

At its core, the question posed was "how do top med students compare with top law students?"

Most of the general population would agree that's a valid and/or interesting question.

Many TLS posters, however, distracted by or envious of OP being from HYS, viscerally reject question and fall into cycle of insults, vanity, and group think, any thing to avoid objectivelt examining the inquiry presented

Fortunately, there have been a few recently to step forward and acknowledge the validity of the question, notwithstanding their feelings towards OP. Their rational responses and analysis will hopefully shine through to the objective observer brave enough to sift through the entirety of this thread, which admittedly has gotten out of hand.

Delete your account

[cdotson2]

Delete your account

savage.

[A. Nony Mouse]

At its core, the question posed was "how do top med students compare with top law students on a variety of measures?"

Most of the general population would agree that's a valid and/or interesting question.

Many TLS posters, however, distracted by or envious of OP being from HYS, viscerally reject question and fall into cycle of insults, vanity, and group think, any thing to avoid objective examination of the inquiry presented

Fortunately, there have been a few recently to step forward and acknowledge the validity of the question, notwithstanding their feelings towards OP. Their rational responses and analysis will hopefully shine through to the objective observer brave enough to sift through the entirety of this thread, which admittedly has gotten out of hand.

Dude, people aren't irrational because they disagree with you or your premise, or rational because they don't.

[pancakes3]

no bro. it's a stupid fucking question.

it's like asking how top soccer players compare to top basketball players, then pointing out that athletically speaking, basketball players are generally taller but soccer players have better stamina. would you say that soccer players have a better work ethic? or that basketball players have a better personality?

[zhenders]

How is this lame-ass thread still going on?

Next, please.

[Mr. Archer]

Very entertaining thread here, although it took a while to read through everything. The general question is odd to me. As someone else pointed out, it’s framed as the top law schools vs. the top medical schools. I would assume intelligence and work ethic are similar, given that you’re looking at most of the best students for law schools and medical schools. It’s just that the path to each is vastly different.

To engage OP’s post in a more constructive way, I would argue OP’s “personality” section is wrong for several reasons. There’s nothing “puzzling” about someone wanting to switch from engineering to patent law. Former engineers can do very well as patent attorneys and think the work is “cool” I guess, although I’ve never asked any lawyer if she thought her work was cool. One of my best professors in law school was an engineer who became a lawyer and then a law professor. It can be “naïve” to want a prestigious big law job, but someone also could just want that job. There’s nothing inherently naïve with setting your sights high for your job if it’s actually obtainable, just as it’s not necessarily naïve to aim for a school like HLS instead of Cooley while studying for the LSAT (gasp, you might even find similar personalities at those two schools). I’m sure there are medical students who want prestigious jobs at well-known hospitals or in specialties like neuroscience that are not naïve to go into medicine for that reason. OP also has government work, public interest, and academia as a separate reason than a desire to practice law. It’s not clear whether OP means non-law government work or law in the government, and the same goes for public interest. In any case, someone could have a desire to practice law and then transition to a different career, so the first two categories are not mutually exclusive. I also don’t know why OP separates wanting to make a difference in the world from a desire to practice law. If someone wants to make a difference in the world and sees the law as the best avenue, then that just sounds like the reason a person has a desire to practice law. Who really wants to practice law just for the sake of practicing any type of law?

[AriGold33]

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[heythatslife]

Excellent trolling, hats off.

[bearsfan23]

At its core, the question posed was "how do top med students compare with top law students?"

Most of the general population would agree that's a valid and/or interesting question.

Many TLS posters, however, distracted by or envious of OP being from HYS, viscerally reject question and fall into cycle of insults, vanity, and group think, any thing to avoid objectivelt examining the inquiry presented

Fortunately, there have been a few recently to step forward and acknowledge the validity of the question, notwithstanding their feelings towards OP. Their rational responses and analysis will hopefully shine through to the objective observer brave enough to sift through the entirety of this thread, which admittedly has gotten out of hand.

Delete your account

[KissMyAxe]

Agreed, there is 0 doubt in my mind OP is at Harvard. I was just about to make a post to see how they liked it there.

And lol at the SAT being determinative of some innate ability.

PS: Also said he was thankful the person wasn't on the admissions committee. That means there was an admissions committee at his school. Checkmate Harvard. (Also called Harvard a good school. No self-respecting Yale student would ever say that of that dumpster-fire).

Wow KMA. Kind of expected better from you. All YLS students I've interacted with so far seem to have an uncontrollable need to put down HLS. I don't get it, and it's starting to piss me off. What is the point? What do y'all get out of it? Yes, there are pretentious people at HLS, but I doubt Yale is immune.

Hildy, why does anyone do anything? For

[HonestAdvice]

But Honest Advice's posts don't answer the question, assume this is all about you trying to pull chicks, and are also riddled with weird assumptions.

I don't know why you always refer to my assumptions are weird. Granted, I probably come from a slightly lower social class and admittedly have trouble understanding the value of prestige beyond material quality of life improvements. If I'm being serious, both groups tend to be very intelligent.

People downplaying the intelligence of top law students tend to neglect that (1) they're smarter now than they were in college so are judging people more critically, (2) sounding smart tends to have more to do with exposure than anything else (even in the same family, younger siblings tend to have better presentation skills than older siblings of equal intelligence) and (2) law students come from a wider array educational backgrounds. Personally, I was fascinated by how much people knew about history, literature and politics. Anecdotally, the people whose intelligence tends to be underestimated are those who are shy as opposed to quiet, speak and write completely different (common with intelligent people used to blending in with non-intelligent people) and studied things that will never come up in law school conversations like art history or nursing. Women form very conservative upbringings also come tend to be undervalued, because they're less likely to be comfortable speaking in class, which will come across to younger audiences as being unprepared. Obviously, these are generalizations, but they're true more often than not. When these people do well it's chalked up to the arbitrariness of law school grading, which might be true in some cases but more often than not is our natural inclination to stubbornly adhere to first impressions.

If I'm taking OP's question seriously, there's no answer and it's a ridiculous question. Both groups are intelligent and hardworking. Law students are insightful and are valuable to be around with exceptions. I don't get the point of the question unless op is trying to scheme for sex or money. What other reason is there for op wanting to seem the other smartest?