Anyone planning on dropping out if they get bad grades? Forum

[JazzOne]

have as much fun as possible in your final semester of UG.

TITCR. Law school is exhausting, and everyone is so gung-ho about it: buy you won't do yourself any favors trying to learn it before starting it. One of the most devious parts of the experience is you just don't have the necessary background information to start preparing for exams without a solid couple of weeks of schooling under your belt. I thought GTM 'made sense' before law school, but when I read it again during the semester it was a whole new experience.

I know this is the majority opinion on TLS, but I disagree. I prepped quite a bit before 1L, and I feel like it helped a lot.

right, the law profs make it seem like you can only learn what negligence or proximate cause, or what a reasonable person is in law school. this is not true.

I agree. I was happy with my 0L prep because I learned the basic rules of law before law school. Then in my lectures, I was able to focus on learning to apply the rules and justify them with policy arguments.

[Snooker]

I think my classes covered a lot more technical subjects, so there was a big pile of rules for me to learn, I didn't find it all in the books. There was also some divergence between what I'd read and the casebooks; i.e. where the cases were the same, I knew it totally cold before I even approached the case, but in other places the cases differed. Some cases have quite elaborate rules that are not given much more than a half-sentence from even the hornbooks.

[superserial]

I really think it's better to enjoy your last semester of freedom than to prep for law school. You will inevitably waste a ton of time learning irrelevant material if you prep as a 0L, and it's really not necessary.

[nahgems]

I go to a T4 on a full scholarship. If I lose my scholarship (below 3.0) I'm dropping out.

[chadwick218]

I go to a T4 on a full scholarship. If I lose my scholarship (below 3.0) I'm dropping out.

You know, I actually wouldn't blame you!

[nahgems]

I go to a T4 on a full scholarship. If I lose my scholarship (below 3.0) I'm dropping out.

You know, I actually wouldn't blame you!

Meh. Grades posted today. I am not dropping out.

[CE2JD]

I go to a T4 on a full scholarship. If I lose my scholarship (below 3.0) I'm dropping out.

You know, I actually wouldn't blame you!

Meh. Grades posted today. I am not dropping out.

even tho you got below a 3.0?

[thesealocust]

even tho you got below a 3.0?

Man you're rosier/sun-shine-ier than usual today CE!

[Bankhead]

I go to a T4 on a full scholarship. If I lose my scholarship (below 3.0) I'm dropping out.

You know, I actually wouldn't blame you!

Meh. Grades posted today. I am not dropping out.

even tho you got below a 3.0?

I took it to mean he got above the 3.0 threshold.

[CE2JD]

I took it to mean he got above the 3.0 threshold.

Despite the "meh?"

[Bankhead]

I took it to mean he got above the 3.0 threshold.

Despite the "meh?"

I would saying something a lot worse than "meh" if I lost a full scholly.

[CE2JD]

I took it to mean he got above the 3.0 threshold.

Despite the "meh?"

I would saying something a lot worse than "meh" if I lost a full scholly.

True.

[nahgems]

I took it to mean she got above the 3.0 threshold.

titcr

[chuckwarr]

Should I drop out?

I am at cardozo law (ranked #49). I need to be in the 33rd percentile or better to keep my scholarship. But I want a firm job, which I don't think I can realistically get unless I am 15th percentile or better at my school.

All of my grades are in except one. Realistically, I will have either:

1) 3.27 gpa, or 39th percentile
2) 3.39 gpa, or 27th percentile

Based on how my school distributes grades, next semester:

if #1, I need a 3.38 to keep my scholarship. I need a 3.68 to have a shot at a firm job.
if #2, I need a 3.31 to keep my scholarship. I need a 3.61 to have a shot a firm job.

If I dropped out I would be 10k in debt. I could probably land a job in advertising, though starting jobs in that industry don't pay much (~ 40k).

Should I drop out? What kinds of questions/information would you seek out to help you with this decision? I am very serious about dropping out.

Thank you.

[thesealocust]

Should I drop out?

I am at cardozo law (ranked #49). I need to be in the 33rd percentile or better to keep my scholarship. But I want a firm job, which I don't think I can realistically get unless I am 15th percentile or better at my school.

All of my grades are in except one. Realistically, I will have either:

1) 3.27 gpa, or 39th percentile
2) 3.39 gpa, or 27th percentile

Based on how my school distributes grades, next semester:

if #1, I need a 3.38 to keep my scholarship. I need a 3.68 to have a shot at a firm job.
if #2, I need a 3.31 to keep my scholarship. I need a 3.61 to have a shot a firm job.

If I dropped out I would be 10k in debt. I could probably land a job in advertising, though starting jobs in that industry don't pay much (~ 40k).

Should I drop out? What kinds of questions/information would you seek out to help you with this decision? I am very serious about dropping out.

Thank you.

Stay in the fight. You aren't exactly hemorrhaging money for this since you have the scholarship. If you DO wind up losing it, drop out no doubt, and if you wind up with scholly but no firm job, that's another conversation as well. But this performance is nowhere near killself / quit and don't admit to trying territory. Take the fight to them!

[littlebit]

Might want to check and see if you have to pay the scholarship back if you drop out. Also, do you want to practice law?

[chuckwarr]

I like law and think I would enjoy practicing it. But I don't have a burning passion for it. I just want to be successful.

Also, if I go back next semester, I will owe 20k at the end of the year as opposed to 10k now.

[keg411]

If I dropped out I would be 10k in debt. I could probably land a job in advertising, though starting jobs in that industry don't pay much (~ 40k).

Should I drop out? What kinds of questions/information would you seek out to help you with this decision? I am very serious about dropping out.

Thank you.

Advertising? Try 25k if you are lucky as an entry level. Some are as low as 14k-15k. Have fun with that one (and yes, I work in advertising).

[vanwinkle]

If I dropped out I would be 10k in debt. I could probably land a job in advertising, though starting jobs in that industry don't pay much (~ 40k).

Should I drop out? What kinds of questions/information would you seek out to help you with this decision? I am very serious about dropping out.

Thank you.

Advertising? Try 25k if you are lucky as an entry level. Some are as low as 14k-15k. Have fun with that one (and yes, I work in advertising).

Advertising jobs start at free. They're called internships, and you keep doing them until you meet someone who likes you enough to pay you. Years, possibly.

[Nietzsche_Addy]

Pretty bummed here. I officially have all my grades back as of this morning. I go to a lower TT with nearly a full scholarship.

A-
A+
A
C (not even a C+ !!!)

I got the first three grades late last week and early this week and I was really excited; thoughts of transferring dancing around in my head. Then I got the C this morning. I didn't think I did particularly well on that exam, but I didn't even entertain the idea of a C. Class ranks haven't come out yet, but I am sure the C is going to dominate me. Will the flat C kill any chance of transferring to a T14, regardless of how well I do next semester?

[awesomepossum]

Pretty bummed here. I officially have all my grades back as of this morning. I go to a lower TT with nearly a full scholarship.

A-
A+
A
C (not even a C+ !!!)

I got the first three grades late last week and early this week and I was really excited; thoughts of transferring dancing around in my head. Then I got the C this morning. I didn't think I did particularly well on that exam, but I didn't even entertain the idea of a C. Class ranks haven't come out yet, but I am sure the C is going to dominate me. Will the flat C kill any chance of transferring to a T14, regardless of how well I do next semester?

My guess is yes. At most schools C's mean you did way way below the median. You might want to check what the problem was.

[CE2JD]

Pretty bummed here. I officially have all my grades back as of this morning. I go to a lower TT with nearly a full scholarship.

A-
A+
A
C (not even a C+ !!!)

I got the first three grades late last week and early this week and I was really excited; thoughts of transferring dancing around in my head. Then I got the C this morning. I didn't think I did particularly well on that exam, but I didn't even entertain the idea of a C. Class ranks haven't come out yet, but I am sure the C is going to dominate me. Will the flat C kill any chance of transferring to a T14, regardless of how well I do next semester?

Well, this pretty much anally ravages the whole "you either have 'it' or you don't" theory of some posters on this site.

[wpc1532]

Pretty bummed here. I officially have all my grades back as of this morning. I go to a lower TT with nearly a full scholarship.

A-
A+
A
C (not even a C+ !!!)

I got the first three grades late last week and early this week and I was really excited; thoughts of transferring dancing around in my head. Then I got the C this morning. I didn't think I did particularly well on that exam, but I didn't even entertain the idea of a C. Class ranks haven't come out yet, but I am sure the C is going to dominate me. Will the flat C kill any chance of transferring to a T14, regardless of how well I do next semester?

How does an A+ factor into GPA calculations?

[rayiner]

Pretty bummed here. I officially have all my grades back as of this morning. I go to a lower TT with nearly a full scholarship.

A-
A+
A
C (not even a C+ !!!)

I got the first three grades late last week and early this week and I was really excited; thoughts of transferring dancing around in my head. Then I got the C this morning. I didn't think I did particularly well on that exam, but I didn't even entertain the idea of a C. Class ranks haven't come out yet, but I am sure the C is going to dominate me. Will the flat C kill any chance of transferring to a T14, regardless of how well I do next semester?

Depends on the curve at your school. Right now your GPA is a 3.5. That still might be in the top part of the class if your school curves to a B- or something, as many lower-ranked schools do.

[thesealocust]

Pretty bummed here. I officially have all my grades back as of this morning. I go to a lower TT with nearly a full scholarship.

A-
A+
A
C (not even a C+ !!!)

I got the first three grades late last week and early this week and I was really excited; thoughts of transferring dancing around in my head. Then I got the C this morning. I didn't think I did particularly well on that exam, but I didn't even entertain the idea of a C. Class ranks haven't come out yet, but I am sure the C is going to dominate me. Will the flat C kill any chance of transferring to a T14, regardless of how well I do next semester?

Depends on the curve at your school. Right now your GPA is a 3.5. That still might be in the top part of the class if your school curves to a B- or something, as many lower-ranked schools do.

At any school other than NU, that's at least top 25%. Nietzsche_Addy: You clearly know how to take law school exams. If you really want to transfer, just make sure you don't get a C next semester and you'll probably be golden. The C itself isn't talismanic or prospect-killing beyond its impact on your overall GPA. And as Rayiner said, if your school's median GPA is a 3 or lower, you are probably already in the tippy-top of the class.