OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS) Forum

[005618502]

Feeling a bit burnt out today. Finished up my reading for the week but got about 20 minutes into a practice exam and just don't have the motivation to do any more. Think I'll take the rest of the day off and try to play video games, watch, and relax so I can go hard all week.

That happened to me yesterday. It was nice to take a break. 1 week from tomorrow is my first test. Damn scary

[minnbills]

ok I need to get it together. All I did today was review my contracts outline. First final in 10 days. Get. it. together.

At least you have a contracts outline

I decided that making your own outline is a huge flame

I mean, you shouldn't have to actually use the outline. It's the review process, putting it all together, etc. that's helpful.

[ArtVandelayy]

Anyone have a Crim Law attack outline (preferably based on Dressler)?

[Jsa725]

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[rbomb]

Anyone have a Crim Law attack outline (preferably based on Dressler)?

Care to make a trade for any Crim Law PTs? Hopefully MCQs?

[SportsFan]

Feeling a bit burnt out today. Finished up my reading for the week but got about 20 minutes into a practice exam and just don't have the motivation to do any more. Think I'll take the rest of the day off and try to play video games, watch, and relax so I can go hard all week.

That happened to me yesterday. It was nice to take a break. 1 week from tomorrow is my first test. Damn scary

Same. Luckily my first exam is the one I feel best about, so HOPEFULLY it'll go well and put me in a good mood for the rest of my finals...

ok I need to get it together. All I did today was review my contracts outline. First final in 10 days. Get. it. together.

At least you have a contracts outline

I decided that making your own outline is a huge flame

I mean, you shouldn't have to actually use the outline. It's the review process, putting it all together, etc. that's helpful.

IMO creating attack outlines helped just as much as creating my original outline in terms of fitting everything together, though creating the outline did help me learn the law a bit.

I'm curious, though, about how much people actually do end up using their outlines on exams. In the practice tests I've taken so far, I've looked through mine a lot (IMO, anyway; guess its hard to really say what 'a lot' is), mostly just because so far I don't have most of the law memorized (starting to get on that now, though). I guess once I do have most of the law memorized I won't need to bother looking through it...

[LetsGoLAW]

On Torts PTs, do you have a lot of analysis under "cause in fact?" Or mostly proximate cause?

[Jsa725]

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[SportsFan]

On Torts PTs, do you have a lot of analysis under "cause in fact?" Or mostly proximate cause?

I barely bother with cause in fact (like 3-4 sentences at the most) unless its one that requires substantial factor analysis.

[ru2486]

checking in, super fucked, no motivation, but doing work anyways

[gaud]

On Torts PTs, do you have a lot of analysis under "cause in fact?" Or mostly proximate cause?

more is in PC

[noleknight16]

I think it's worth searching for a defendant's response to but-for causation and throw some back and forth.

"Plaintiff will say but for... blah blah blah . Defendant will say even if I hadn't done... blah blah blah... the accident still would have happened."

Also worth bringing up preponderance of evidence being the standard for the but-for causation.

[Blumpbeef]

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

[SportsFan]

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.

[crumpetsandtea]

Took my professor's 2009 K Midterm as a PT today...FML wow that sucked. I've done 3 torts exams so far that have been decent, and Civ Pro is going alright, but Crim and Ks? Holy shiiiit FML.

[gaud]

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.

My K professor skipped SOF.

[Blumpbeef]

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.

We didn't study damages either.

[SportsFan]

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.

My K professor skipped SOF.

So did mine. Confused a bunch of people in my section a few weeks ago when we all finally realized it exists haha. Still, I would view skipping PC as more similar to skipping Offers than skipping SOF.

[Blumpbeef]

I asked the TA about it and he said "proximate cause is assumed on all your hypotheticals, so you won't have to analyze it."

I guess it's like saying "assume all contracts exist and are enforceable"

[Dead Parrot]

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.

My K professor skipped SOF.

My professor went over for 10 minutes, called it the statute for frauds, and then said don't address it on the exam unless obvious.

Finals start tomorrow for me. CSWS

[Blumpbeef]

My K's professor skipped literally nothing

[brotherdarkness]

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[LetsGoLAW]

One "but for" cause - Actual cause established
Two "but for" causes, one necessary, one necessary and sufficient - Move to proximate cause
Two "but for" causes, both sufficient to cause the damage - Use substantial factor test
One "but for" cause, but multiple parties - Shift the burden

Correct? Torts is driving me wild. If anyone needs any assistance on Ks, Dressler crim, or Prop, I have anything.

[Blumpbeef]

I'll take property tests/answers if anyones got em.

[SportsFan]

One "but for" cause - Actual cause established
Two "but for" causes - Use substantial factor test
One "but for" cause, but multiple parties - Shift the burden

Correct? Torts is driving me wild. If anyone needs any assistance on Ks, Dressler crim, or Prop, I have anything.

The way my torts professor taught it is that you only use substantial factor in three situations:

Either cause alone would have produced the identical result
Either cause alone would have produced a similar result
The defendant made a clearly proven but quite insignificant contribution to the result

Obviously if your professor taught is differently, do what your professor said. I got the impression mine doesn't really like substantial factor much.