UC Hastings Class of 2014 Forum

[kapital98]

ahhh! some of my schedule is already posted. I'm in section 5! I also have class at 9:40 on Friday.. damn, there goes my dream of no class on Fridays.

Thanks! I'm in section 5 too. How did we end up having class on Friday but nothing on Tuesday?

[ilovesf]

ahhh! some of my schedule is already posted. I'm in section 5! I also have class at 9:40 on Friday.. damn, there goes my dream of no class on Fridays.

Thanks! I'm in section 5 too. How did we end up having class on Friday but nothing on Tuesday?

Wait what? I have Legal Writing and Property on Tuesday.. but nothing on Monday at least!

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[AsNGiants]

What are the used books from the bookstore like? Are they good as new or do they have writing and highlighting in them?

[ilovesf]

when/how do we find out if we have reading due for our classes?

[pamcasso]

when/how do we find out if we have reading due for our classes?

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[kapital98]

ahhh! some of my schedule is already posted. I'm in section 5! I also have class at 9:40 on Friday.. damn, there goes my dream of no class on Fridays.

Thanks! I'm in section 5 too. How did we end up having class on Friday but nothing on Tuesday?

Wait what? I have Legal Writing and Property on Tuesday.. but nothing on Monday at least!

AH! You're right. I have property on Tuesday too. However, my legal writing class is late Monday night.

Completely unrelated: I arrived in San Francisco two days ago. IT'S AMAZING!!! The next few weeks are going to be great.

[ilovesf]

AH! You're right. I have property on Tuesday too. However, my legal writing class is late Monday night.

Completely unrelated: I arrived in San Francisco two days ago. IT'S AMAZING!!! The next few weeks are going to be great.

Awesome! I am at JFK right now waiting for my plane to SF. I live there but I've been gone since the beginning of May..I'm soo excited to be going back! I think our professors for our section seem pretty good.. I met one at ASD and I thought he was pretty cool and nice.

[ilovesf]

when/how do we find out if we have reading due for our classes?

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Thanks!

[kapital98]

Does anyone know if the professors have individual websites? I'm wondering if some of the section 5 teachers have a syllabus posted.

[ozarkhack]

What about Study Aids for our first year courses?

The official bookstore website section on study aids (--LinkRemoved--) lists over 20 examples and says that there are up to 200 titles to choose from. Do you think it is necessary/advisable to purchase study aids other than those that the professors require/recommend?

Perhaps it is an issue of personal preference in which some students purchase a lot more study aids than others? If so, how would one know what study aids will work best for that particular individual? Do you have any recommendations or advice in this area? Much appreciated.

Oh yeah, I may well want to buy books from you too.

TLS has tons of threads on supplements, so I won't try to replicate the advice here, especially because it really is a preference and depends-on-the-professor thing. You may want to go the library and check some of 'em out from there (lots are stocked, especially E&Es and ____ in a Nuthsell series).

As for my story, in the fall, I used only the Glannon CivPro E&E. Professor recommended it. It was helpful and probably kept me from bombing that terribly taught class.

In the spring, however, I wound up with 3 ConLaw supplements (1 old one written by the professor) and 2 for property (1, Understanding Property, free via Lexis points). I also used Dressler's Understanding Criminal Law, also free via Lexis. I did a little bit better in the spring than in the fall. It could be the supplements, I guess.

Ultimately, my advice is to wait for a bit, see how you handle the material as it comes at you. You'll know whether you need supplements or not.

[Lasers]

What are the used books from the bookstore like? Are they good as new or do they have writing and highlighting in them?

likely have highlighting/writing in them.

not sure if that's good, bad, or a non-factor, yet.

[ilovesf]

nooooooo!! i dont know how i read my schedule wrong, but i was so psyched not to have class on mondays, only to realize today i have torts. how are most people getting books? just doing regular pre-ordering?

[weaselology]

I'll chime in on the supplements too. First semester I just kind of glanced over supplements for each class (mostly the E&Es and Emmanuels outlines; don't like Gilberts). Didn't do as well as I hoped grade-wise, though I did alright.

Second semester, I focused on reading supplements but essentially cut out the E&Es as I found them shallow and worthless. I read Emmanuels for most classes, the same Conlaw supplement written by our professor as Ozarkhack (which was gold in that class, our essay was pretty much lifted from hypos he posed in the supplement), understanding crim, and treatises on crim/property. I did substantially better 2nd semester and I think it is largely due the my use of supplements.

All the extra reading was a ton of work, but it definitely paid off.

As another anecdote/tip, I study completely by myself and I know Ozarkhack typically does as well. However, come exam time during second semester the two of us sequestered ourselves in study lounges and did timed practice exams together. After we finished, we would really pick apart what we did, strategize, discuss interesting ways to format and lay out arguments and nitpick different issues that we saw/didn't catch. We pretty much were all business the entire time. Very little messing around and just solid exam performance and analysis. It is mentally taxing and pretty brutal, but very effective. This was another factor in my imrpovement second semester.

And here is a shameless plug: I have a ton of supplements for every class and most of the 1L casebooks (Torts, K's, Con Law, Civ Pro, Fed Income Tax). Most of the supplements are pretty much unmarked, and I am willing to sell the casebooks cheap, so if any of your are interested, PM me. Also, for anyone that would like them, I can provide my outlines as well.

[validation88]

rising 3L here. don't really have time to give a general overview, but wanted to chime in. i would recommend incoming 1Ls to take every opportunity to get to know upperclassmen and practicing attorneys. most 1Ls don't fully comprehend the value of networking until later in the year, but it is absolutely key in this market. the fact that i joined student orgs, got to know 2Ls and 3Ls, and went to a variety of networking events helped me score interviews and get awesome, paying jobs both 1L and 2L summer.

pm me if you have questions

Would you care to exchange emails with a 1L? And thank you so much for offering your knowledge to us. I am a bit worried about finding an internship that actually pays decently. I really do not want to have to move back to Sonoma County just because of finances, there are not enough opportunities there. What orgs did you get involved in during first year?

[Lasers]

ugh it is such a hassle to get everything in order before i move into the tower; still gotta buy some furniture.

[kapital98]

ugh it is such a hassle to get everything in order before i move into the tower; still gotta buy some furniture.

Every couple days there is another student moving out of the tower selling their furniture. It's always rock bottom prices but also sold very quickly.

[thedumbwaiter]

I'm moving in to the Tower on Friday. Do I need to contact someone else about elevator times?

[kapital98]

I'm in Section 3 and I'm moving in to the Tower on Friday. I thought I had read somewhere about booking an elevator time for moving stuff in but when I emailed Pansy to let her know I was arriving earlier in the day than I had previously thought she just said that the security was open 24 hours so it wasn't a big deal. Do I need to contact someone else about elevator times? It doesn't really sound like she gives a hoot.

They don't. The only time they might care is if you move in when everyone else is. I doubt everyone is moving in on Friday.

The staff is very nice. I had all of my furniture delivered by mail. They brought it up to my room. I didn't have to move anything

[Lasers]

I'm in Section 3 and I'm moving in to the Tower on Friday. I thought I had read somewhere about booking an elevator time for moving stuff in but when I emailed Pansy to let her know I was arriving earlier in the day than I had previously thought she just said that the security was open 24 hours so it wasn't a big deal. Do I need to contact someone else about elevator times? It doesn't really sound like she gives a hoot.

They don't. The only time they might care is if you move in when everyone else is. I doubt everyone is moving in on Friday.

The staff is very nice. I had all of my furniture delivered by mail. They brought it up to my room. I didn't have to move anything

haha, that's great.

i'll be moving in on sunday, with my mattress being delivered on tuesday...hmm.

[ilovesf]

Are there books for legal writing? I don't see them online.. am I just missing something?

[kapital98]

haha, that's great.

i'll be moving in on sunday, with my mattress being delivered on tuesday...hmm.

From personal experience: THIS SUCKS! My first two night in the Tower I "borrowed" a mattress awaiting disposal. The mattress was absolutely awful.

Also, make sure you have blankets. Not having blankets is equally annoying.

[ilovesf]

orientation starts tomorrow! anyone else actually excited? it feels like this thread has been pretty slow moving lately.

[thedumbwaiter]

I'm excited too! A little bit freaked out but more excited.

Good luck tomorrow everyone!

[Lasers]

what's up with orientation check-in being from 9-9:45?

i'll get there as late as possible seeing as nothing starts until 10 anyway.