Michigan Class of 2014 Forum

[thelaststraw05]

And not enough reason for me to choose Michigan over Duke (trying to bring the topic back to Mich since this IS the Mich thread, after all).

NLJ250 data: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=148674
Chicago 58.97%
Cornell 58.33%
Columbia 55.20%
Penn 53.31%
Harvard 49.74%
Virginia 46.79%
Berkeley 45.61%
Northwestern 44.37%
NYU 43.27%
Michigan 42.47%
Stanford 41.62%
Duke 38.03%
Georgetown 37.58%
UCLA 35.14%
Yale 33.84%
BC 33.58%
BU 30.00%
Vanderbilt 29.81%
USC 28.72%

75% of Duke graduates end up in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, South Atlantic, or South.

I can't find the same number for Michigan, but the graduates do appear on the map to be pretty spread out:
http://www.law.umich.edu/careers/factsa ... tions.aspx

Ehhh, I wouldn't want to go to Cornell over Michigan or Duke.

Edit: Also, to answer the question, I think one of the things you should look at is the markets that each provides better access to. If you think you might want to work in the South, Duke might be a better option while UM would be better for Chicago and the Midwest and maybe California. If you have ties to one of those regions, the school in the other can also give you more geographic mobility.

I certainly wasn't making the whole case about why to go to Duke. Just adding another possible reason.

[jrose5]

IMO, it all boils down to what kind of environment is best suited for your personality. Besides minor regional differences in reputation, Duke and Michigan do not seem to differ greatly in terms of job prospects. While Duke has more of a small town feel to it, Michigan is a culturally diverse college town.

...and that's the problem. I like them both. A lot.

I assume it's slightly cheaper to live in Durham than Ann Arbor, but Ann Arbor offers great public transportation while at Duke, you'd need a car.

[AreJay711]

IMO, it all boils down to what kind of environment is best suited for your personality. Besides minor regional differences in reputation, Duke and Michigan do not seem to differ greatly in terms of job prospects. While Duke has more of a small town feel to it, Michigan is a culturally diverse college town.

...and that's the problem. I like them both. A lot.

I assume it's slightly cheaper to live in Durham than Ann Arbor, but Ann Arbor offers great public transportation while at Duke, you'd need a car.

I agree if you like one over the other that is the right choice or if you prefer certain regions to others. Michigan is actually a tiny bit cheaper according to the student budget but based on the one for UMD, these numbers might as well be completely random. I just really liked the school more and wanted to open up another potential market for myself.

http://www.law.duke.edu/admis/tuition

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[emmbar53]

IMO, it all boils down to what kind of environment is best suited for your personality. Besides minor regional differences in reputation, Duke and Michigan do not seem to differ greatly in terms of job prospects. While Duke has more of a small town feel to it, Michigan is a culturally diverse college town.

...and that's the problem. I like them both. A lot.

I assume it's slightly cheaper to live in Durham than Ann Arbor, but Ann Arbor offers great public transportation while at Duke, you'd need a car.

Haven't read through all the posts, so sorry if this has been mentioned...but, I love the fact that your handle is "jrose5" and you are debating Michigan vs. Duke. Jalen would not be happy with this debate.

[jrose5]

IMO, it all boils down to what kind of environment is best suited for your personality. Besides minor regional differences in reputation, Duke and Michigan do not seem to differ greatly in terms of job prospects. While Duke has more of a small town feel to it, Michigan is a culturally diverse college town.

...and that's the problem. I like them both. A lot.

I assume it's slightly cheaper to live in Durham than Ann Arbor, but Ann Arbor offers great public transportation while at Duke, you'd need a car.

Haven't read through all the posts, so sorry if this has been mentioned...but, I love the fact that your handle is "jrose5" and you are debating Michigan vs. Duke. Jalen would not be happy with this debate.

LOL. I noticed that too. Total coincidence.

Jalen would not be happy with this debate? Try Grant Hill. I don't think HE'D be happy with this debate. (Loved his NYTimes op-ed response to Rose).

[MissLucky]

hey I don't mean to double post - but i just asked this is the ASW II thread - is there a reading assignment for the upcoming ASW II? I feel like there was one for ASW, no? thnks!

[dabbadon8]

hey I don't mean to double post - but i just asked this is the ASW II thread - is there a reading assignment for the upcoming ASW II? I feel like there was one for ASW, no? thnks!

The reading assignment was literally two paragraphs. wouldn't worry, most people read it at lunch before the mock class.

[MissLucky]

hey I don't mean to double post - but i just asked this is the ASW II thread - is there a reading assignment for the upcoming ASW II? I feel like there was one for ASW, no? thnks!

The reading assignment was literally two paragraphs. wouldn't worry, most people read it at lunch before the mock class.

ohhh nice. how was the cold calling?

[dabbadon8]

hey I don't mean to double post - but i just asked this is the ASW II thread - is there a reading assignment for the upcoming ASW II? I feel like there was one for ASW, no? thnks!

The reading assignment was literally two paragraphs. wouldn't worry, most people read it at lunch before the mock class.

ohhh nice. how was the cold calling?

It was more of a speech then a class. The professor spoke about the nature of what they aka law school, is trying to accomplish. He called on two people for some basic facts. I wouldn't worry about it at all, even if you hadn't read it you could skim the appropriate paragraph and answer quickly. It isn't really a class. Just have fun while your there and talk to as many people students and other wise to get a feel for the place. They are trying to sell you not scare you.

[dcwumpus]

I just couldn't stand to see our thread drop to the fourth page.

[r6_philly]

I am withdrawing today. Hope you guys have a wonderful time in AA!

[r6_philly]

I just couldn't stand to see our thread drop to the fourth page.

BTW your tar makes me grind my teeth.

[dcwumpus]

I just couldn't stand to see our thread drop to the fourth page.

BTW your tar makes me grind my teeth.

I picked the most annoying thing I could think of.

[math101]

I just couldn't stand to see our thread drop to the fourth page.

BTW your tar makes me grind my teeth.

I picked the most annoying thing I could think of.

That tar gets me every time!

philly, have you decided on where you're going? has your new cycle been all you expected it to be versus your last? (PM if you don't want to answer publicly.)

[whathojeeves]

I am withdrawing today. Hope you guys have a wonderful time in AA!

WAH -- no more philly!

[r6_philly]

philly, have you decided on where you're going? has your new cycle been all you expected it to be versus your last? (PM if you don't want to answer publicly.)

Have not decided, but I know I am going to withdraw from Michigan and Duke, and off the WL at Cornell and Chicago. Ruling some out as I go.

This cycle has been satisfactory. I think most of my objectives were met, aside from the ding from Yale. Could still work out above expectations though, fingers crossed

I think reapplying turned out great. Funny thing is I really would probably have gone to Michigan if I could have, didn't really want to wait the year truthfully, but it worked out in the end.

[r6_philly]

I am withdrawing today. Hope you guys have a wonderful time in AA!

WAH -- no more philly!

We still have a date outside of NYU in a few days

[whathojeeves]

I am withdrawing today. Hope you guys have a wonderful time in AA!

WAH -- no more philly!

We still have a date outside of NYU in a few days

True that

[inchristalone]

Today is the day I set foot on Michigan's campus as an admitted student. I'm having flashbacks to the keychain I got when I was five. It was maize and blue and had one button on it, which, when pressed, would ring out Hail To The Victors. It's been a long time coming.

Happy Preview Weekend to everyone else headed to UofM today!

[dcwumpus]

Today is the day I set foot on Michigan's campus as an admitted student. I'm having flashbacks to the keychain I got when I was five. It was maize and blue and had one button on it, which, when pressed, would ring out Hail To The Victors. It's been a long time coming.

Happy Preview Weekend to everyone else headed to UofM today!

Tear.

[DHB]

I wasn't able to attend Preview Weekend, but I'm visiting next week. Does anyone who attended have any highlights to share?

[er doctor]

I wasn't able to attend Preview Weekend, but I'm visiting next week. Does anyone who attended have any highlights to share?

There's actually a couple of good comments in the Michigan ASWII thread under law school visits but just my impression:

Every is nice. Almost too nice, like they were going to ask us all to drink the Kool-Aid. But in the end I think it was truly sincere (just to give an example - Dean Z almost started crying at the closing remarks when she was talking about admitting such intelligent people and watching them go on to do such wonderful things)

The facilities are amazing just like you would imagine. The new building (opening next January) looks just as amazing.

The best part of the weekend was undoubtedly the professors - personable, friendly, and fiendishly intelligent. You could tell that they really loved teaching but were also at the top of their fields. There is such a breadth of subject matters available - I actually want to take Prof. Pritchard's Securities Law class even though it's a subject matter that is about 180 degrees from where I will be going with my law career.

In the end, I think deciding on a law school is really a personal matter and you need to choose the school that's right for you. I don't see Michigan being a bad decision for anyone.

Happy to answer any specific questions, too.

Oh and BTW had a couple of excellent meals here, and some very good local beer. So much for my plan to go to school and lose weight.

[03121202698008]

I wasn't able to attend Preview Weekend, but I'm visiting next week. Does anyone who attended have any highlights to share?

There's actually a couple of good comments in the Michigan ASWII thread under law school visits but just my impression:

Every is nice. Almost too nice, like they were going to ask us all to drink the Kool-Aid. But in the end I think it was truly sincere (just to give an example - Dean Z almost started crying at the closing remarks when she was talking about admitting such intelligent people and watching them go on to do such wonderful things)

The facilities are amazing just like you would imagine. The new building (opening next January) looks just as amazing.

The best part of the weekend was undoubtedly the professors - personable, friendly, and fiendishly intelligent. You could tell that they really loved teaching but were also at the top of their fields. There is such a breadth of subject matters available - I actually want to take Prof. Pritchard's Securities Law class even though it's a subject matter that is about 180 degrees from where I will be going with my law career.

In the end, I think deciding on a law school is really a personal matter and you need to choose the school that's right for you. I don't see Michigan being a bad decision for anyone.

Happy to answer any specific questions, too.

Oh and BTW had a couple of excellent meals here, and some very good local beer. So much for my plan to go to school and lose weight.

You'd be surprised what a ton of coffee will do to you. l've lost 15 lbs so far 1L year and eat like shit fairly often...and don't exercise.

[er doctor]

I wasn't able to attend Preview Weekend, but I'm visiting next week. Does anyone who attended have any highlights to share?

There's actually a couple of good comments in the Michigan ASWII thread under law school visits but just my impression:

Every is nice. Almost too nice, like they were going to ask us all to drink the Kool-Aid. But in the end I think it was truly sincere (just to give an example - Dean Z almost started crying at the closing remarks when she was talking about admitting such intelligent people and watching them go on to do such wonderful things)

The facilities are amazing just like you would imagine. The new building (opening next January) looks just as amazing.

The best part of the weekend was undoubtedly the professors - personable, friendly, and fiendishly intelligent. You could tell that they really loved teaching but were also at the top of their fields. There is such a breadth of subject matters available - I actually want to take Prof. Pritchard's Securities Law class even though it's a subject matter that is about 180 degrees from where I will be going with my law career.

In the end, I think deciding on a law school is really a personal matter and you need to choose the school that's right for you. I don't see Michigan being a bad decision for anyone.

Happy to answer any specific questions, too.

Oh and BTW had a couple of excellent meals here, and some very good local beer. So much for my plan to go to school and lose weight.

You'd be surprised what a ton of coffee will do to you. l've lost 15 lbs so far 1L year and eat like shit fairly often...and don't exercise.

LOL I'm an ER doctor...I long ago replaced my bloodstream with coffee, and that has done nothing for my waistline. I think I might need to get off my ass and work out once in a while.

[03121202698008]

I wasn't able to attend Preview Weekend, but I'm visiting next week. Does anyone who attended have any highlights to share?

There's actually a couple of good comments in the Michigan ASWII thread under law school visits but just my impression:

Every is nice. Almost too nice, like they were going to ask us all to drink the Kool-Aid. But in the end I think it was truly sincere (just to give an example - Dean Z almost started crying at the closing remarks when she was talking about admitting such intelligent people and watching them go on to do such wonderful things)

The facilities are amazing just like you would imagine. The new building (opening next January) looks just as amazing.

The best part of the weekend was undoubtedly the professors - personable, friendly, and fiendishly intelligent. You could tell that they really loved teaching but were also at the top of their fields. There is such a breadth of subject matters available - I actually want to take Prof. Pritchard's Securities Law class even though it's a subject matter that is about 180 degrees from where I will be going with my law career.

In the end, I think deciding on a law school is really a personal matter and you need to choose the school that's right for you. I don't see Michigan being a bad decision for anyone.

Happy to answer any specific questions, too.

Oh and BTW had a couple of excellent meals here, and some very good local beer. So much for my plan to go to school and lose weight.

You'd be surprised what a ton of coffee will do to you. l've lost 15 lbs so far 1L year and eat like shit fairly often...and don't exercise.

LOL I'm an ER doctor...I long ago replaced my bloodstream with coffee, and that has done nothing for my waistline. I think I might need to get off my ass and work out once in a while.

I was a cop for 10 years and had similarly changed over. I took 3 weeks completely off caffeine over the summer and only ramped back up...maxing at 3 large cups a day, which had a much large effect after the detox. Only thing I've changed so seems to be the cause of the weight loss...