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clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:43 pm

So ABA just released all 2015 ABA 509's... So we now have the most up to date transfer statistics. No huge changes except Northwestern took significantly fewer (and only regional) transfers this time around.

barkschool · Post by **barkschool** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:45 am

http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

I always plan on looking at these hoping to find something ground breaking, like who are the 16 people who transferred to Utah.

Top 30 Transfers In, if anyone is interested;

GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY 110
GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY 109
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY 65
HARVARD UNIVERSITY 55
EMORY UNIVERSITY 51
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY 51
CALIFORNIA-BERKELEY, UNIVERSITY OF 49
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY 45
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY 44
MIAMI, UNIVERSITY OF 44
CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES, UNIVERSITY OF 43
TEXAS AT AUSTIN, UNIVERSITY OF 37
AMERICAN UNIVERSITY 33
FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY 32
MINNESOTA, UNIVERSITY OF 31
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY-CAMDEN 31
HOUSTON, UNIVERSITY OF 26
FLORIDA, UNIVERSITY OF 25
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY 25
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY 24
CHICAGO, UNIVERSITY OF 23
CALIFORNIA-HASTINGS, UNIVERSITY OF 20
MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 20
SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY 20
CARDOZO SCHOOL OF LAW 19
BOSTON COLLEGE 18
HOFSTRA UNIVERSITY 18
ATLANTA'S JOHN MARSHALL LAW SHOOL 17
LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY-LOS ANGELES 17

Clemenceau · Post by **Clemenceau** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:59 am

Look at all those sweet, sweet tuition dollars

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:33 am

ASU just pillaging Arizona Summit. What a strategy.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:33 am

There are 17 transfers into John Marshall?

clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:35 am

I count 19 for Northwestern?

clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:38 am

Side note: congrats to all who just finished/finishing finals

Hand · Post by **Hand** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:45 am

All us GULC students are proud that, despite the stiff competition from GW, we won again this year!

Br3v · Post by **Br3v** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:47 am

100+ people go to GULC? I thought their class was already like 500

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:34 pm

Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows

n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t · Post by **n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:10 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows

It also depends what school you're coming from. I was below 50th percentile (much closer to 25th) for CCN and got in from a T20. I highly doubt my LOR was amazing.

Good Guy Gaud · Post by **Good Guy Gaud** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:21 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:ASU just pillaging Arizona Summit. What a strategy.

lol

lavarman84 · Post by **lavarman84** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:26 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows

I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:54 pm

n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
It also depends what school you're coming from. I was below 50th percentile (much closer to 25th) for CCN and got in from a T20. I highly doubt my LOR was amazing.

Fair point. T2 school (strong regional though) shooting for T6-10 area. Top 5-10ish% of class. Again, owell... Honestly, thankful that several people in my range were able to transfer.. made my oci a bit more accessible.

Those looking to transfer this summer --> good luck, keep those grades up!

butlerraider1 · Post by **butlerraider1** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:04 pm

lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.

Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:48 am

butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?

juzam_djinn · Post by **juzam_djinn** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:41 pm

clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?

where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:59 pm

juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515

clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:48 pm

Nebby wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515

gg

NoDayButToday · Post by **NoDayButToday** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:46 pm

juzam_djinn · Post by **juzam_djinn** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:22 pm

clshopeful wrote:
Nebby wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515
gg

exactly. #1 at a T1 is very diff than #1 at a T3

juzam_djinn · Post by **juzam_djinn** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:10 pm

Nebby wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong.

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515

yup, as I thought. T3 not T1

ManoftheHour · Post by **ManoftheHour** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:32 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

Isn't this the biggest blessing in disguise by saving you $100k+? I mean, it's one thing if you struck out, but you didn't. I think you won law school.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:33 am

NoDayButToday wrote:I'm curious how much longer transfer admissions will continue with such minimal regulation from ABA / notice from USNWR. Don't get me wrong, I'm really glad I was able to transfer, and I'm really glad that option existed. But it's also a little surprising that there hasn't been that much official notice or more data than just the mid-50 percentiles and outgoing school from the 509s. Fifty plus transfers to even a big school is a SIGNIFICANT percentage increase in class size.

Again - not complaining, especially as that's how big my transfer class was - just surprised!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:44 am

RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows

Last year when they first started posting transfer GPAs on 509s, my first complaint was that a GPA doesn't give you good predictive value at all, because the median at one school can be up to .2 or .3 different, and someone with a 3.6 could be top 10% at one place, and top 33% at another, and the top 10% person would have a lot better shot than the latter.

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