CLS Transfer Odds/Stay-leave question Forum

[Anonymous User]

Is there any reason at all for me to spend the money to apply to Columbia Law School? (Most other deadlines have passed, but I'd be interested in hearing suggestions for schools higher ranked than Emory where I have been accepted) I have applied to NYU, Emory, and UC Irvine. UC Irvine was kind of just a throw away app because it is free, and it looks like its in a sweet location. I am waiting on NYU, and as I mentioned above I was accepted by Emory.

I go to a school ranked 90-100. I had a 3.607 first semester which had me ranked 23 of around 216. So just outside top 10%. Second semester idk what the actual GPA for that semester was, but I dropped down to a 3.5 rank 37 out of 216. However, it was due to one C+ from a visiting professor. I had two Calis, one each semester. I took a summer class, and I Cali'd it. Worked for an investment bank in back office for a year after undergrad. Did accounting with a 3.59 GPA at the same school I am at for law school, so rank probably isn't much different there.

Edit: When I say is there any reason, I mean do I have a shot in hell?
ReEdit: Got a response on the CLS part might as well not make a new feed. Have a new question. I am pretty certain I want an MBA for what I want to do. Emory would be helpful there in that it might be a good springboard into a top 5 MBA, if I do well at the school and on the GMAT. The problem is that it will also add a ton of debt. Where I am at is one of the cheapest law schools in the nation, and I have a job so I can cover most of cost of living. Might as well just say it is the University of South Carolina. They have a dual-degree program with their IMBA program which is ranked #1 in the country. Highly doubt anyone is taking people out of that program over Harvard MBAs though--unless it requires a language skill the Harvard grad does not have. Even if I didn't do the IMBA, I don't know how well I'd be received at a top MBA from USC. Any thoughts on how to go about this decision are appreciated.

[sandwhich]

Edit: When I say is there any reason, I mean do I have a shot in hell?

Sorry, but I don't think so.

[lavarman84]

Yea, I hate to say it but I think your chances are pretty slim. Hard to say zilch but they're close to that.

[TransferHopeful17]

I think you probably did good in getting into Emory, depending on your goals, of course.

[Anonymous User]

So, I'll probably have to get hella lucky to get into NYU then?

[jphiggo]

So, I'll probably have to get hella lucky to get into NYU then?

I would think so with your GPA/class rank/school rank. But, for the most part this is all speculation. You've already applied and you might be the special snowflake they are looking for. Don't get your hopes up yet. Check out the spreadsheet, linked below, for a general idea of what it takes to get admitted:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... utput=html

[timmyd]

Doubt it, but I don't like telling people apps arnt worth the fee because you never know. I think applicants in your position usually attain Emory, WUSTL, maybe Vandy/UT

[chuckbass]

Why do you think going to Emory for law school would help you get into a ~top 5~ MBA program?

[Gamecockfan]

Why do you think going to Emory for law school would help you get into a ~top 5~ MBA program?

I mean just like everything else, the better your background the more likely you are to get in. Certainly I would have to add some work experience as well, but I think Emory would be a bigger boost than USC. Although for those programs, it might not be enough. (Your tone seems to convey that is what you think)

[chuckbass]

Why do you think going to Emory for law school would help you get into a ~top 5~ MBA program?

I mean just like everything else, the better your background the more likely you are to get in. Certainly I would have to add some work experience as well, but I think Emory would be a bigger boost than USC. Although for those programs, it might not be enough. (Your tone seems to convey that is what you think)

Well I'm questioning your knowledge here. There's no ~top 5~ in the MBA world, there's the M7, which is the top 7 schools. Emory is not impressive at all to these schools, but also Emory is no more impressive than USC. Your UG is important here, not doing random grad programs to increase your chances. Also you don't need just some work experience to get into HBS or Wharton or something, you need to work at JPM/Goldman and that doesn't sound like it's an option.

[lavarman84]

BTW, this is not really on topic but I do wish you the best of luck! I'm a SC alum and I loved my time there. Had the best years of my life there (so far).

[Gamecockfan]

Why do you think going to Emory for law school would help you get into a ~top 5~ MBA program?

I mean just like everything else, the better your background the more likely you are to get in. Certainly I would have to add some work experience as well, but I think Emory would be a bigger boost than USC. Although for those programs, it might not be enough. (Your tone seems to convey that is what you think)

Well I'm questioning your knowledge here. There's no ~top 5~ in the MBA world, there's the M7, which is the top 7 schools. Emory is not impressive at all to these schools, but also Emory is no more impressive than USC. Your UG is important here, not doing random grad programs to increase your chances. Also you don't need just some work experience to get into HBS or Wharton or something, you need to work at JPM/Goldman and that doesn't sound like it's an option.

Ok, I have never heard of the M7. I was referring to schools that I saw people in the front office came from when I worked for an investment bank. It is more than 5 schools, it is more than 7. Chicago people came from Northwestern and Chicago. West coast came from Stanford, UCLA, and Berkeley. New York people came from NYU and Columbia. Obviously, Harvard sent people everywhere. Obviously, this is a generalization, and people from one of the schools I listed could be in a different location. I was merely trying to avoid a long winded explanation when I said top 5.

[Gamecockfan]

BTW, this is not really on topic but I do wish you the best of luck! I'm a SC alum and I loved my time there. Had the best years of my life there (so far).

what year?

[chuckbass]

Why do you think going to Emory for law school would help you get into a ~top 5~ MBA program?

I mean just like everything else, the better your background the more likely you are to get in. Certainly I would have to add some work experience as well, but I think Emory would be a bigger boost than USC. Although for those programs, it might not be enough. (Your tone seems to convey that is what you think)

Well I'm questioning your knowledge here. There's no ~top 5~ in the MBA world, there's the M7, which is the top 7 schools. Emory is not impressive at all to these schools, but also Emory is no more impressive than USC. Your UG is important here, not doing random grad programs to increase your chances. Also you don't need just some work experience to get into HBS or Wharton or something, you need to work at JPM/Goldman and that doesn't sound like it's an option.

Ok, I have never heard of the M7. I was referring to schools that I saw people in the front office came from when I worked for an investment bank. It is more than 5 schools, it is more than 7. Chicago people came from Northwestern and Chicago. West coast came from Stanford, UCLA, and Berkeley. New York people came from NYU and Columbia. Obviously, Harvard sent people everywhere. Obviously, this is a generalization, and people from one of the schools I listed could be in a different location. I was merely trying to avoid a long winded explanation when I said top 5.

Just because you haven't heard of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Obviously people come from more than 7 schools, just like people in biglaw come from more than 14 schools.

[hartfordhockaloogies]

I would say <10% (prob closer to 3-5%) chance of Columbia. Maybe 10% chance at NYU.

I think that the cost of $250 in apps is worth the possible (long-term) return.

I mean, wouldn't you pay $250 on a lottery ticket with a 3-10% chance of getting $1million over the course of 10 years? ... not the most precise analogy, but you get the gist.

[Gamecockfan]

I would say <10% (prob closer to 3-5%) chance of Columbia. Maybe 10% chance at NYU.

I think that the cost of $250 in apps is worth the possible (long-term) return.

I mean, wouldn't you pay $250 on a lottery ticket with a 3-10% chance of getting $1million over the course of 10 years? ... not the most precise analogy, but you get the gist.

I may do it. I am hoping NYU gives a quick decision, and I happen to get accepted, so I can save the app fee.

[Gamecockfan]

Does the fact that my letter of recommendations are coming from two Harvard-grad professors, one of which I cali'd both got an A, carry any weight at all? Or is that pretty much everyone?

[lavarman84]

BTW, this is not really on topic but I do wish you the best of luck! I'm a SC alum and I loved my time there. Had the best years of my life there (so far).

what year?

I graduated in 2014. Went straight from undergrad to JD. How about you?

[Gamecockfan]

BTW, this is not really on topic but I do wish you the best of luck! I'm a SC alum and I loved my time there. Had the best years of my life there (so far).

what year?

I graduated in 2014. Went straight from undergrad to JD. How about you?

2013 did accounting. Worked for a year and then came back. What range are you in school wise, and where are you looking to transfer?

[hartfordhockaloogies]

Does the fact that my letter of recommendations are coming from two Harvard-grad professors, one of which I cali'd both got an A, carry any weight at all? Or is that pretty much everyone?

I don't think it matters what school your professor went to who wrote your recommendation. Exception - If the professor is an alumni

[lavarman84]

BTW, this is not really on topic but I do wish you the best of luck! I'm a SC alum and I loved my time there. Had the best years of my life there (so far).

what year?

I graduated in 2014. Went straight from undergrad to JD. How about you?

2013 did accounting. Worked for a year and then came back. What range are you in school wise, and where are you looking to transfer?

I almost majored in accounting.(I didn't really find it boring...which most people thought was crazy) I was really good at it but I ended up majoring in sport and entertainment management because I was more passionate about it.

I'm at a school ranked in the 40s. Trying to transfer to HYSC.

[chuckbass]

Does the fact that my letter of recommendations are coming from two Harvard-grad professors, one of which I cali'd both got an A, carry any weight at all? Or is that pretty much everyone?

No. Like you said, that's pretty much the case for everyone.

[trey ohh five]

Does the fact that my letter of recommendations are coming from two Harvard-grad professors, one of which I cali'd both got an A, carry any weight at all? Or is that pretty much everyone?

It's the case for everyone. 6/8 of my 1L professors went to either Harvard or Yale, I went to a TT ranked 70-80.