GULC v Michigan Forum

[Anonymous User]

Got into both. GULC deposit is due on Monday. UM has not told me of the deposit. UM is the historically better school with better employment outcomes.

I have no ties to DC or Midwest but am open to working anywhere. Have ties to GA/NY/MA

Open to firm work/clerking/PI/gov't and I will have minimal debt upon graduation.

I am still waiting to hearing back from T6s+Duke. I believe I am a strong candidate at Duke but not expecting to get into CCN or Duke.

Any input on which degree has the better opportunities/name/friendliest to transfers?

edit: I just want to say that I am thrilled and ecstatic to be in at both schools and I hope someone here gets my spot when I withdraw from one. I will make sure to withdraw ASAP when I know so the spot goes to someone I am leaning towards UM but wanted to hear some input! THANKS

[txig]

Also interested in this as I may be deciding between the two schools also. More concerned with Biglaw/Clerking and which school is better interested in DC/NY market, but willing to work in Chi.

Thanks!

[iskim88]

http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/michigan/gulc/


Michigan seems to be the winner.

[shock259]

Michigan is going to have better biglaw outcomes. I don't see a reason why you'd take GULC over Michigan if you don't want DC. TLS wisdom is that GULC transfers sometimes struggle at OCI.

So, I'd drop GULC, hold onto the Michigan acceptance, and ride out your cycle. Good luck!

[Nomo]

Michigan has better prospects, all things being equal. For most students Michigan is a decent investment with a total cost of attendance of around 150k. And for most students Georgetown is a decent investment at around 120k. I think those estimates are generous. So Georgetown could be a better bet if the scholarships are right.

There is a very real chance of not getting biglaw at both schools (the chances becomes a likelihood at Georgetown). If you start spending more than 150k on an education and don't get biglaw you're sitting in a world of hurt (100k isn't exactly pleasurable either).

[Anonymous User]

Michigan has better prospects, all things being equal. For most students Michigan is a decent investment with a total cost of attendance of around 150k. And for most students Georgetown is a decent investment at around 120k. I think those estimates are generous. So Georgetown could be a better bet if the scholarships are right.

There is a very real chance of not getting biglaw at both schools (the chances becomes a likelihood at Georgetown). If you start spending more than 150k on an education and don't get biglaw you're sitting in a world of hurt (100k isn't exactly pleasurable either).

Thanks for the replies. Like I said I will have very minimal debt and am very lucky to be in that position. I will sleep on GULC and withdraw tomorrow!

It looks like NU, UM and Duke all have fed clerkships+big law in the high 50%s-low 60%s. Also do transfers at any of these schools do better than others?

Does anyone know how the transferring class is received by the 2L class at Michigan?

[ymmv]

Who are the two TLSers who voted GULC, and what are you smoking.

[holepunch]

what are your numbers that prevent you from thinking CCN isn't possible?

[jsb422]

I'm almost in the same boat. Accepted at GULC and debating whether to apply to UM. Are there any advantages to UM beyond that it's slightly higher ranked? Seems like you wouldn't be able to do any good externships compared to DC...

[ymmv]

I'm almost in the same boat. Accepted at GULC and debating whether to apply to UM. Are there any advantages to UM beyond that it's slightly higher ranked?

There are these things called employment statistics.
Beyond those, if you need other reasons, UMich is reportedly a decent culture, while GULC is a miserable machine representing the absolute worst elements of law students and law school alike.

Seems like you wouldn't be able to do any good externships compared to DC...

Someday you will discover what a meaningless metric that is.

[deffoe]

As a current Wolverine (wtf is a wolverine, btw?), the lack of high-end externship opportunities in southeast MI IS a real, if mild, annoyance/detriment compared to NYC, DC, etc. This really only matters for PI/gubmint people.

That being said, your judgment would be highly suspect to take GULC over UM at equal effective COA.